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Blankpain -> How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 9:45:17 AM)
Morphing the idea of the recent, "if you would establish a new nation" thread, I resumed thinking how best to create a perfect matriarchy where the entire populace willingly conforms to the given ideals in the shortest time possible! My first thought (of many), would be to allow only the decidedly meek and subservient to repopulate ... based on meeting key criteria in middle life ... whereby the rules would be men at the age of consent are forced to queue naked and quivering, bound hand and foot, while a sperm sample is roughly milked, and then once on its way to cryogenic preservation, the offending meaty parts are efficiently crushed to a pulp or completely removed (at their discretion) and thrown to the dogs - while the thoroughly subjugated eunuch is repaired and sent on his way to be a productive member of our new society. Mortality may be high - but it is of no matter as it would be less than that which we lose in war today - and - since human nature repeats itself - our ideal matriarchy assumes we can only move forward quickly by changing human nature in a drastic way. How would YOU ensure the entire male gene pool conforms to YOUR ideals of a perfect matriarchal D/s society.

NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 10:03:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blankpain the offending meaty parts are efficiently crushed to a pulp or completely removed (at their discretion) and thrown to the dogs Am I the only one who feels this is offensive? To say nothing of sounding excruciatingly painful and I don't even have those parts. NBMG

JeffBC -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 10:14:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl Am I the only one who feels this is offensive? To say nothing of sounding excruciatingly painful and I don't even have those parts. chuckles Well I do have those parts and I don't find it offensive. It's a fantasy. Or, at least, if it's not fantasy then I'm offended much more by the sexism than the torture.

Alecta -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 10:25:26 AM)
OP, your phrasing is going to get a lot of people riled up lol if you mean for a serious discussion, please refrain from actively exercising your misandry :) Matriarchy is not confined to the rhetorics and idyll of Female Supremacy. Your topic is no different from the original thread, and I say to you what I'd said before, "All Your Base Are Belong To Us". Control the Spice... I mean food, and the people will follow. The quickest, most efficient way to subjugate society? Control its basic needs: food, shelter, vice. Make it follow your rules in order to gain access to the resource. Keep the rules simple to prevent people from "getting creative", and always keep them within the population's tolerance level. Use a rewards system for the more extreme things you want people to embrace, like castration. Go back to school and study all you can on history and politics before you eliminate them from the education system.

WestBaySlave -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 10:42:10 AM)
I was going to say ensure women in all countries had proper access to education and equal employment opportunities in leadership positions. But then, I'm a man, so perhaps being concerned over gender inequality in the third world is less relevant than the ball-crushing. Though perhaps, given the current status quo, a matriarchy with unchanged social norms would be more more economical. Considering how much politicians earn in most countries, who wouldn't want a governmental bureaucracy that did the same job for 33% less pay?

Alecta -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 10:56:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WestBaySlave Though perhaps, given the current status quo, a matriarchy with unchanged social norms would be more more economical. Considering how much politicians earn in most countries, who wouldn't want a governmental bureaucracy that did the same job for 33% less pay? Ah, but 33% less pay does not translate to 33% less taxes! It could well be shunted off to operate a private spa-and-shopping-paradise for those in the bureaucracy and taxes raised in order to keep that facility afloat. On the other hand, when recruited, Westbay, you'd have a job for life >:D

DesFIP -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 11:01:25 AM)
I'm meek but my oldest is anything but. Personality traits are not necessarily genetic. In the perfect matriarchy, kids would naturally be born with a clean gene and not leave stuff all over for mom to retrieve.

NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 4:03:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl Am I the only one who feels this is offensive? To say nothing of sounding excruciatingly painful and I don't even have those parts. chuckles Well I do have those parts and I don't find it offensive. It's a fantasy. Or, at least, if it's not fantasy then I'm offended much more by the sexism than the torture. Yes, I do agree. The sexism and misandry are the worst of all.

Pyramus -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 7:15:25 PM)
It's not fantasy if you read human history. http://epistle.us/hbarticles/eunuchs1.html quote: Even if boys had their testicles crushed at a young age, some of them still received testosterone from their testicles, allowing them to have erections. And even totally castrated eunuchs could receive anal pleasure from the prostate gland, resulting in a sort of climax, but without the normal ejaculation. Therefore, some have argued that eunuchs were really castrated to assure that all of the children born in a harem would be from the seed of the master.2 It's apparently even in the bible! http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/153823/religion/the_eunuch_in_bible_and_quran.html quote: No one who has been emasculated by crushing or cutting may enter the assembly of the LORD.

Karmastic -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 8:43:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alecta OP, your phrasing is going to get a lot of people riled up lol if you mean for a serious discussion, please refrain from actively exercising your misandry :) Matriarchy is not confined to the rhetorics and idyll of Female Supremacy. Your topic is no different from the original thread, and I say to you what I'd said before, "All Your Base Are Belong To Us". Control the Spice... I mean food, and the people will follow. The quickest, most efficient way to subjugate society? Control its basic needs: food, shelter, vice. Make it follow your rules in order to gain access to the resource. Keep the rules simple to prevent people from "getting creative", and always keep them within the population's tolerance level. Use a rewards system for the more extreme things you want people to embrace, like castration. Go back to school and study all you can on history and politics before you eliminate them from the education system. very interesting! did you ever read machiavelli's "the prince"?

Karmastic -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/12/2012 8:47:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blankpain Morphing the idea of the recent, "if you would establish a new nation" thread, I resumed thinking how best to create a perfect matriarchy where the entire populace willingly conforms to the given ideals in the shortest time possible! My first thought (of many), would be to allow only the decidedly meek and subservient to repopulate ... based on meeting key criteria in middle life ... whereby the rules would be men at the age of consent are forced to queue naked and quivering, bound hand and foot, while a sperm sample is roughly milked, and then once on its way to cryogenic preservation, the offending meaty parts are efficiently crushed to a pulp or completely removed (at their discretion) and thrown to the dogs - while the thoroughly subjugated eunuch is repaired and sent on his way to be a productive member of our new society. Mortality may be high - but it is of no matter as it would be less than that which we lose in war today - and - since human nature repeats itself - our ideal matriarchy assumes we can only move forward quickly by changing human nature in a drastic way. How would YOU ensure the entire male gene pool conforms to YOUR ideals of a perfect matriarchal D/s society. i admit, i'm befuddled. too stupid to get it or think it's funny. and i don't care enough to be offended. i will take your title seriously and answer that. i don't have an ideal matriarchy (or patriarchy for that matter), because i believe in letting everyone play the gender/kink/life role that feels right for them. every ideal i hold true would chip away at the core values of either of them.

VanessaChaland -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 1:24:05 AM)
A good case for democracy and equality. :)

myotherself -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 4:55:24 AM)
I don't believe a matriarchy is a good thing. I don't think a patriarchy is a good thing. I believe in equality. I am a female slave. I don't find meek men even slightly attractive. I would certainly not want to produce babies with a meek man. If I was to have children, they'd have been with a strong leader who can balance out my strong subservience. That way we could have well-balanced children who could decide for themselves which role model is more natural to them.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 5:23:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blankpain Morphing the idea of the recent, "if you would establish a new nation" thread, I resumed thinking how best to create a perfect matriarchy where the entire populace willingly conforms to the given ideals in the shortest time possible! My first thought (of many), would be to allow only the decidedly meek and subservient to repopulate ... based on meeting key criteria in middle life ... whereby the rules would be men at the age of consent are forced to queue naked and quivering, bound hand and foot, while a sperm sample is roughly milked, and then once on its way to cryogenic preservation, the offending meaty parts are efficiently crushed to a pulp or completely removed (at their discretion) and thrown to the dogs - while the thoroughly subjugated eunuch is repaired and sent on his way to be a productive member of our new society. Mortality may be high - but it is of no matter as it would be less than that which we lose in war today - and - since human nature repeats itself - our ideal matriarchy assumes we can only move forward quickly by changing human nature in a drastic way. How would YOU ensure the entire male gene pool conforms to YOUR ideals of a perfect matriarchal D/s society. I wouldn't. I do not believe in either male or female supremacy. Excellence in people is not based on gender, any more than it is based on race or ethnicity, or gender preference, or gender identity. JMO, but I find this thread offensive on many levels. Though I do understand your right to believe as you wish, OP.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 5:24:44 AM)
quote: very interesting! did you ever read machiavelli's "the prince"? I consider The Prince required reading for any dominant.

DesFIP -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 10:30:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt JMO, but I find this thread offensive on many levels. Though I do understand your right to believe as you wish, OP. You're kinder than I am, I found it offensive on every level.

Whenready -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 10:46:58 AM)
I wouldn't. Women are obviously inferi- oh, wait, my wife tells me that I'm wrong - again... Seriously however your world sounds like a nightmare. So I still wouldn't.

JeffBC -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 11:00:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Karmastic i don't have an ideal matriarchy (or patriarchy for that matter), because i believe in letting everyone play the gender/kink/life role that feels right for them. every ideal i hold true would chip away at the core values of either of them. nods Essentially any system which ignores the individual in favor of sweeping generalities is, by definition, not ideal. It can only ever be sub-optimal. To me, an "ideal" society would somehow slot every single individual into exactly the right situation for that individual -- ideally maximizing both happiness and productivity.

AurumCaminus -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 3:47:22 PM)
Of course there is also the little snag that on a societal scale Matriarchy simply doesn't work. Patriarchy is effective due to the fact that for men to get their base needs from women, to put it quite bluntly, we don't need your consent. Yes its cruel, yes its savage, yes its disgusting, yes it is flat out wrong. Yet none of that changes the fact that for the vast majority of human history, that is indeed the way that the world worked. And in some places it still does. Good luck getting enough men to agree to their own subjugation to make something like that happen. You'll need even better luck fighting off the guys who do not consent and find such all the justification that they need to invade and in turn violently subjugate you.

BurntKitty -> RE: How would you run your matriarchy so that it conforms to your ideal? (5/13/2012 3:57:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AurumCaminus Patriarchy is effective due to the fact that for men to get their base needs from women, to put it quite bluntly, we don't need your consent. [image]http://chzlolcats.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-pictures-roflmeow.jpg[/image] srsly, dude. hahahahagasphahahahaha

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