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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 6:39:25 AM   
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You stated telluric transmission was the only element of Tesla's system when you stated on page two that the NYT article was wrong to state that the power is transferred through the air.
Again you brought that asswipe up totally out of the blue on this very page http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4124556 - its a very sad reflection on your own mental prowess taht you can't even follow your own train of thought. Maybe thats why you copy and paste so much, eh?



lucky you need to learn how to comprehend what you read in the same context as the writer intended, not whatever you dream up.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 6:46:29 AM   
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You brought up telluric current.  Telluric current involves at its core earth batteries, Telluric current is insufficient to do commercial, continuous power distribution.  We do not see 300+ hp tesla motors anywhere on the planet, and that is because they dont exist, and there is a reason for that, and that reason is not because the gubfia is holding them down or some evil conspiracy has bought them up, its that they arent viable.

Show me (with credible citations and data) a working one, that doesnt rely on power from the current electrical grid, they are not there. 

No more than you can make gasoline from dirt. 



not manmade telluric current which is what the tesla device does. it creates telluric current. sure ya do, I showed you a video of the electric car destroying a ferrari and a lambargini.



Anyone can recognize when dumb and dumber conspires to rob a bank, would you even know how to recognize a conspiracy when they get to intelligence level 7?


I have shown you several credible citations and you have simply ignored it and have not proven one thing. I put the goods on the table where are yours. I wont hold my breath.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 6:49:06 AM   
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would you even know how to get a lightning bolt to strike an object? I doubt it.

one lousy average lightning bolt would power someones house for several years


See?  Here is where the shit breaks down in the real world.

We would have to put the houses where the lightning was to insure a consistent supply, well, trailer houses would work I suppose, but then you would have to staff the tractors 24/7/365 and even then your getting to where the ligtning hits is iffy.  But the biggest problem would be the storage system, which would have to capture and hold the charge that would meet the household needs for some 30 years at least, until you were lucky enough to place your trailer in such a fashion to entice a lightning bolt to strike it the second time.

And god help you if there is a drought.   It would be a case of running the hamster wheel for years to keep the milk and eggs from rotting in the fridge.

Other than that, not much to do with gas, or this thread, or real world issues.  

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:00:18 AM   
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would you even know how to get a lightning bolt to strike an object? I doubt it.

one lousy average lightning bolt would power someones house for several years


See?  Here is where the shit breaks down in the real world.

We would have to put the houses where the lightning was to insure a consistent supply, well, trailer houses would work I suppose, but then you would have to staff the tractors 24/7/365 and even then your getting to where the ligtning hits is iffy.  But the biggest problem would be the storage system, which would have to capture and hold the charge that would meet the household needs for some 30 years at least, until you were lucky enough to place your trailer in such a fashion to entice a lightning bolt to strike it the second time.

And god help you if there is a drought.   It would be a case of running the hamster wheel for years to keep the milk and eggs from rotting in the fridge.

Other than that, not much to do with gas, or this thread, or real world issues.  



that is a real small world isnt it.

that is why it is wireless see, so it can be transmitted worldwide so you dont need a lightning bolt giving you a new doo in your home.

That is where the shit breaks down in the REAL WORLD.

There is a huge dielectric flow long before it actually tunnels and a strike occurs.

The earth is the storage system.




ABUNDANT WIRELESS ENERGY HAS EVERYTHING to do with gas.





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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:19:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's an abundance of energy sources, we just need(ed) to develop the technology to utilize them. Unfortunately, we stumbled on oil and were able to fulfill all of our energy needs cheaply and with minimal technological innovation. Oil became so embedded in our economy and created such a power base it was impossible to develop alternate energy sources effectively. Now the debate on the effect of CO2 emissions on the environment rages like Nero fiddling at the bonfire. Whether we've unleashed a gene in the bottle or not, we have used up a majority of the easy oil in only a few decades. Now China and India are spooling up their need for oil and we're starting to see some cracks in the pipeline from the added stress. Oil is an excellent energy source which has no equal in many applications. We should have utilized it for those needs while developing alternate sources where feasible. But nope, we're little piggies and the Yin and Yang of the cosmos will soon set things back in balance. So while I may be sick of high oil prices, I don't see it as a conspiracy to drain the middle class or anything like that... I see it as the beginning tremors of more serious things yet to come.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:24:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, now we are back to earth batteries, a large fail for power enough to run houses and hospitals. 

And of course with farms of 60 mile high antennas, we wouldnt need to rely on something as chimeral as lightning.  We would just use the difference in potential between the earths atmosphere and the ground (little tesla for you there).

Now, a typical lightning strike, so you dont get too far out in the opium induced hazes, would light a 100w lightbulb about three months, not houses for years....

So, we now have about around 10-200 Ka riding on a billion volts or so (and assuming we have gear to capture 100% of the strikes with 100% efficiency and store it....oh, oh, already we got trouble) and these great mats capturing at ground, will not ground and kill everyone for miles around......

Now, you are talking about using this electromagnetic radiation (some spectrum of it) as a carrier for distribution globally.   This concerns me, the very air we breath lit up with billions of volts flying around in great williwaws,   and forcing everyone on the planet to be encased in a good foot of rubber from head to toe, never mind forget television, radio, cell phones, or any form of communication and the impossible task of retrofitting the electrical wire and switchgear in your house to withstand such a bizzare state of affairs.

I guess that would say, in essence, fuck the cows and sheep and horses, hey?

So, I belive the equation is thus, so far:

A ---> (physics is ignored here):: B ----> (miracle occurs here):: C --->  (planet is vaporized here) :: D ---->  (beer is cooled here).

Did I miss any steps?      

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:38:09 AM   
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would you even know how to get a lightning bolt to strike an object? I doubt it.

I do actually, and its fairly common knowledge but perhaps you can explain what that has to do with the price of tea in China? Are you moving the goalposts again, perchance?

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one lousy average lightning bolt would power someones house for several years

Thats bollocks. If you knew anything about lightening you would know that it varies massively in terms of its power potential, and the strike can actually be quite weak because whilst lightening carries very high voltages and currents, it comes from a far terminal so it breaks off into leaders taking much of the charge away. If lightening carried such a high level of energy as to power a house then no one would ever survive a strike when in fact 90% do survive, and most die from secondary causes if they have a relatively weak heart.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:40:29 AM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:45:45 AM   
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You stated telluric transmission was the only element of Tesla's system when you stated on page two that the NYT article was wrong to state that the power is transferred through the air.
Again you brought that asswipe up totally out of the blue on this very page http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4124556 - its a very sad reflection on your own mental prowess taht you can't even follow your own train of thought. Maybe thats why you copy and paste so much, eh?

lucky you need to learn how to comprehend what you read in the same context as the writer intended, not whatever you dream up.

Re. the NYT article, you stated in Post 22 "the TMT is a telluric tranmitter not through the air!" http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4118118 after it was claimed the signal transfer went through the air.

Re. the subsequent point I made about bringing shit up out of the blue, you brought up telluric current in reply to Musicmystery saying "Why do you keep doing the same thing over and over again when it's not working? Try something other than repeating the same photos." - there was no fucking context, just you pulling out something new to mask the fact you say nothing of any real substance. Then you blamed Ron for bring up telluric current http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4124623 stating "who gives a shit Ron?" but he rightly pointed out in his immediate response below http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4124634 that you in fact did.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:50:06 AM   
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lucky, you put any meaning you dream up to what is posted regardless of what is meant.

thats why I usually ignore you.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:50:30 AM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 7:54:07 AM   
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lucky, you put any meaning you dream up to what is posted regardless of what is meant.

thats why I usually ignore you.

No what you do is spew forth your Alex-Jones koolaid batshit, and when anyone reminds you or points out the contradictions you go switch on either:

(A) "Complete-Denial-Mode"

(B) "Pretend-The-Question-Wasn't-Answered-And-Repeat-It-Ad-Nauseum-Mode"

(C) "Claim-The-Goal-Posts-Were-Moved-No-Matter-What-Mode"

(D) "Copy-And-Paste-Mode"

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:05:42 AM   
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And we are ignoring negative lightning strikes and positive lightning strikes and their vast differences.



does not matter the tower is not dc

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:07:44 AM   
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lucky, you put any meaning you dream up to what is posted regardless of what is meant.

thats why I usually ignore you.

No what you do is spew forth your Alex-Jones koolaid batshit, and when anyone reminds you or points out the contradictions you go switch on either:

(A) "Complete-Denial-Mode"

(B) "Pretend-The-Question-Wasn't-Answered-And-Repeat-It-Ad-Nauseum-Mode"

(C) "Claim-The-Goal-Posts-Were-Moved-No-Matter-What-Mode"

(D) "Copy-And-Paste-Mode"



I never mentioned alex jones. you are confused yet again.

take a break have a couple shots and a keg of beer, it will calm your nerves. Hate to see you go postal on us.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:08:56 AM   
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Don't forget he has breaking information about electric cars, (surrounded of course by magic, and our unknowingness of their existance) as if that made his either earth battery or no earth battery, no telluric or telluric, tesla generation scheme in his head (as opposed to how it factually is) as concomitant, equivalent fact. 



still waiting for those facts and I am not getting any younger here

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:09:15 AM   
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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:11:38 AM   
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Don't forget he has breaking information about electric cars, (surrounded of course by magic, and our unknowingness of their existance) as if that made his either earth battery or no earth battery, no telluric or telluric, tesla generation scheme in his head (as opposed to how it factually is) as concomitant, equivalent fact. 



still waiting for those facts and I am not getting any younger here


well, you would have to forward some proposal with proof that there is to agree with or deny.

You have done nothing other than elide, fantasize, non-sequitur, outright dishonesty, and fulsome and empty buncombe.

Can't nail jelly to a tree.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:13:02 AM   
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lucky, you put any meaning you dream up to what is posted regardless of what is meant.

thats why I usually ignore you.

No what you do is spew forth your Alex-Jones koolaid batshit, and when anyone reminds you or points out the contradictions you go switch on either:

(A) "Complete-Denial-Mode"

(B) "Pretend-The-Question-Wasn't-Answered-And-Repeat-It-Ad-Nauseum-Mode"

(C) "Claim-The-Goal-Posts-Were-Moved-No-Matter-What-Mode"

(D) "Copy-And-Paste-Mode"

I never mentioned alex jones. you are confused yet again.

take a break have a couple shots and a keg of beer, it will calm your nerves. Hate to see you go postal on us.

My dear dear dear fellow, you really ought to read posts properly before you reply to them. Where does it say in my post that you mentioned Alex Jones? My point was obvious. You are peddling (or should I say "piddling") that old conspiracist ebil-gubafia shite that he specialised in, and is famed for, and refer to him on other threads as Ron pointed out.

BTW its odd how you persist in thinking I'm angry with you or your posts. Quite honestly I'm having great fun posting on this thread, not angry at all! Seems your Tesla mind-reading coils are on the blink again.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:28:51 AM   
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Yeah, now we are back to earth batteries, a large fail for power enough to run houses and hospitals. 

And of course with farms of 60 mile high antennas, we wouldnt need to rely on something as chimeral as lightning.  We would just use the difference in potential between the earths atmosphere and the ground (little tesla for you there).

Now, a typical lightning strike, so you dont get too far out in the opium induced hazes, would light a 100w lightbulb about three months, not houses for years....

So, we now have about around 10-200 Ka riding on a billion volts or so (and assuming we have gear to capture 100% of the strikes with 100% efficiency and store it....oh, oh, already we got trouble) and these great mats capturing at ground, will not ground and kill everyone for miles around......

Now, you are talking about using this electromagnetic radiation (some spectrum of it) as a carrier for distribution globally.   This concerns me, the very air we breath lit up with billions of volts flying around in great williwaws,   and forcing everyone on the planet to be encased in a good foot of rubber from head to toe, never mind forget television, radio, cell phones, or any form of communication and the impossible task of retrofitting the electrical wire and switchgear in your house to withstand such a bizzare state of affairs.

I guess that would say, in essence, fuck the cows and sheep and horses, hey?

So, I belive the equation is thus, so far:

A ---> (physics is ignored here):: B ----> (miracle occurs here):: C --->  (planet is vaporized here) :: D ---->  (beer is cooled here).

Did I miss any steps?      



once it is converted it is easily stored, that and its alredy stored in the upper atmosphere.

under ideal conditions you would want positive lightning but this device is ac and operates on both.

if we take the 16 milion lightning strikes in the world and add them up at the minimal numbers you gave above you would light that 100 watt light bulb somewhere between 2 to 3 million years.

electromagnetic radiation should concern you especially since ALL radio transmission today operates on it.

Cell phones included and you are microwaving your brain everytime you use them.

Tesla testified in court that his electric waves have very little to no transverse electromagnetic radiation.

I am surprised you know so little about this technology.

A ---> ("C" IS NOT A CONSTANT):: B ----> (money is made here):: C ---> (planet is polluted here) :: D ----> (drowning in piss here).

ALL evidence shown is ignored here.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/22/2012 8:31:14 AM   
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Oh, ggez.....you have mentioned alex jones, and sourced him.  If not in this thread, plenty others, adding to your legendary instability and lack of actual knowledge in realities.



NOT in this thread, and the rare occasion I was sourcing one of his guests NOT HIM.

Not that any troughers recognize that distinction.

Screws up their fantasy world and agenda they push.

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