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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
wiki is only gospel when you cite it .......... we get it!

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
0 clearly said transverse waves.... not that there is any magic about either.  The other deedoodeedoo said (just before citation needed) longitudinal waves.

With pictures for our friends who dont give a shit, when making much ado about nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_wave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitudinal_wave

Personally, if you could get standing waves out of the fucking things, you still wouldn't have any more than a dick in one hand and a whiskey bottle in the other. 

The Electro Magnetic Spectrum is not gonna carry your electricity when and where you want it in the organization you want it in.

First off, the entire World Gubfia cannot afford such transmitters (were they possible, which they ain't----that pesky magnetic shit they always tack onto the electro part), and the second  reason will be left as an exercise to the reader (here's a hint, it is embedded in the first one, using these things >>>> '( )').

its already been proven, so now you also think IEEE engineers are full of shit too huh? Thats a serious swim up da nile yanno

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Personally, if you could get standing waves out of the fucking things, you still wouldn't have any more than a dick in one hand and a whiskey bottle in the other. 

The Electro Magnetic Spectrum is not gonna carry your electricity when and where you want it in the organization you want it in.

First off, the entire World Gubfia cannot afford such transmitters (were they possible, which they ain't----that pesky magnetic shit they always tack onto the electro part), and the second  reason will be left as an exercise to the reader (here's a hint, it is embedded in the first one, using these things >>>> '( )').

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Tesla was quite sure of his preeminence in wireless technology as he arrived in Colorado Springs, Colorado in May of 1899… Tesla had maintained for some time that the earth was an efficient conductor, suitable for all-points transmission of electric power. His tests, in early July, with the giant Tesla Coil (which he called his “Magnifying Transmitter”) seemed to support his theory of the conducting earth. Now, ever since I first heard of Tesla, I was told that Tesla succeeded in transmitting power effciently over a distance of about 20 miles, and lighting up a 20kW load (or variations thereof). The following is a typical example: “In actuality, he lighted more than 200 incandescent lamps 26 miles away” (McBirnie 1987, 2).

So, it would seem that Tesla successfully tied together the transmission of information and electric power from one station. However, it’s time to burst the apocryphal bubble that supports this legend. In all my research of this matter, I have not find any definitive evidence to support the assertion that Tesla had in fact performed this demonstration. Cheney ([1981] 1983, 148–149) offers the best explanation of what may have actually happened:

It has been reported by various writers that during his power trans-mission experiments in Colorado, Tesla succeeded in lighting up a bank of two hundred 50-watt incandescent lamps wirelessly, at a distance of twenty-six miles from his station. In his own writings, however, no such claim was ever made, nor is there other evidence that he did so.

Though Tesla thought that he had passed a current around the earth capable of lighting 200 incandescent lights. It is likely that Tesla really didn’t demonstrate the viability of transmitting power and information while he was in Colorado. Furthermore, he didn’t produce any new marketable inventions from the Colorado experiments. But his letters to financiers and entrepreneurs promised fortunes from the wireless technology based on these experiments. Unfortunately for Tesla, the rest of the pioneering radio engineers had caught up with him…

Even when radio broadcasting became widespread some two decades later, Tesla still insisted that his system, fully developed, would have been superior. Convinced that Marconi’s feat was only an insignificant stunt, and having finally managed to gain financial backing, Tesla embarked on the second phase of his grand plan…

In his hurry to compete with other researchers, Tesla was almost frantic while building the Wardenclyff transmitter site. He insisted that the rash of successful wireless demon-strations following Marconi was superfluous and misdirected at best. Wardenclyff was to show the world what the proper use of wireless technology should be, and all other wireless experimenters would therefore have to fall in line. […]

The balanced view of Tesla’s work on what we now know as radio technology acknowl-edges his pioneering ideas, yet notes that he spent too much time and money pursuing projects that never yielded the desired results or fortunes for Tesla. Even while Tesla strove to get Wardenclyff operational, Lee DeForest invented the triode vacuum tube amplifier (used for voice modulation). Quite sensitive regenerative radios were beginning to be used around World War I. Yet, Tesla still thought in terms of telegraphy and mega-power levels.

Posthumously, Tesla won a U.S. Supreme Court decision against Marconi and others, essentially declaring Tesla the “father” of radio. But it was some forty years too late for Tesla. Even if the decision had occurred on a timely basis, the Serbian-born genius would have pursued his own goals all the more furiously, even though it was already apparent that the world wanted something else from the fruits of his genius.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, we can clearly see the cords he is carrying around hooked to his generator which is plugged into the wall.....

Yeah, pretty fuckin amazing stuff.  How did they think that up?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Personally, if you could get standing waves out of the fucking things, you still wouldn't have any more than a dick in one hand and a whiskey bottle in the other. 

The Electro Magnetic Spectrum is not gonna carry your electricity when and where you want it in the organization you want it in.

First off, the entire World Gubfia cannot afford such transmitters (yeh a few wires to build a few coils is so fucking expensive compared to the power lines now run on every street! Flush the turd already!) (were they possible, which they ain't----that pesky magnetic shit they always tack onto the electro part), and the second  reason will be left as an exercise to the reader (here's a hint, it is embedded in the first one, using these things >>>> '( )').

Even Tesla fan Thomas Kelley was a bit embarrassed by the bullshit about his electric power transmission. From his lengthy text "The Tesla Genius": http://www.scribd.com/doc/92868057/The-Tesla-Genius

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Tesla was quite sure of his preeminence in wireless technology as he arrived in Colorado Springs, Colorado in May of 1899… Tesla had maintained for some time that the earth was an efficient conductor, suitable for all-points transmission of electric power. His tests, in early July, with the giant Tesla Coil (which he called his “Magnifying Transmitter”) seemed to support his theory of the conducting earth. Now, ever since I first heard of Tesla, I was told that Tesla succeeded in transmitting power effciently over a distance of about 20 miles, and lighting up a 20kW load (or variations thereof). The following is a typical example: “In actuality, he lighted more than 200 incandescent lamps 26 miles away” (McBirnie 1987, 2).

So, it would seem that Tesla successfully tied together the transmission of information and electric power from one station. However, it’s time to burst the apocryphal bubble that supports this legend. In all my research of this matter, I have not find any definitive evidence to support the assertion that Tesla had in fact performed this demonstration. Cheney ([1981] 1983, 148–149) offers the best explanation of what may have actually happened:

It has been reported by various writers that during his power trans-mission experiments in Colorado, Tesla succeeded in lighting up a bank of two hundred 50-watt incandescent lamps wirelessly, at a distance of twenty-six miles from his station. In his own writings, however, no such claim was ever made, nor is there other evidence that he did so.

Ok so he claims no claim was made
Though Tesla thought that he had passed a current around the earth capable of lighting 200 incandescent lights. So then tesla did make the claim, make up your fucking mind already!It is likely that Tesla really didn’t demonstrate the viability of transmitting power and information while he was in Colorado. Furthermore, he didn’t produce any new marketable meaning MONEY MAKING inventions from the Colorado experiments. But his letters to financiers and entrepreneurs promised fortunes from the wireless technology based on these experiments. Unfortunately for Tesla, the rest of the pioneering radio engineers had caught up with him…

Even when radio broadcasting became widespread some two decades later, Tesla still insisted that his system, fully developed, would have been superior. Convinced that Marconi’s feat was only an insignificant stunt, and having finally managed to gain financial backing, Tesla embarked on the second phase of his grand plan…

In his hurry to compete with other researchers, Tesla was almost frantic while building the Wardenclyff transmitter site. He insisted that the rash of successful wireless demon-strations following Marconi was superfluous and misdirected at best. Wardenclyff was to show the world what the proper use of wireless technology should be, and all other wireless experimenters would therefore have to fall in line. […]

The balanced view of Tesla’s work on what we now know as radio technology acknowl-edges his pioneering ideas, yet notes that he spent too much time and money pursuing projects that never yielded the desired results or fortunes for Tesla. Even while Tesla strove to get Wardenclyff operational, Lee DeForest invented the triode vacuum tube amplifier (used for voice modulation). Quite sensitive regenerative radios were beginning to be used around World War I. Yet, Tesla still thought in terms of telegraphy and mega-power levels.

Posthumously, Tesla won a U.S. Supreme Court decision against Marconi and others, essentially declaring Tesla the “father” of radio. But it was some forty years too late for Tesla. Even if the decision had occurred on a timely basis, the Serbian-born genius would have pursued his own goals all the more furiously, even though it was already apparent that the world wanted something else from the fruits of his genius.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

Another shameless strawman from the biggest fan of strawmanning on CM.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Hey skip since you did your thesis on transmission here is an equivalent circuit for you to ponder.




pretty kool the way it "hooks" into both the earth and the upper atmosphere with us in the middle aint it?

Plug that into spice

And there you have it, of course it is not to scale, but that is the one that will need 60 mile high antennae to make the circuit.

It will not and cannot work without grounded collectors, via the magic of organizing the atmosphere and directing the electromagnetic radiation to carry it down to ground.

And also why the little radio controlled boat is a fraud.

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With his newly created Tesla coils, the inventor soon discovered that he could transmit and receive powerful radio signals when they were tuned to resonate at the same frequency. When a coil is tuned to a signal of a particular frequency, it literally magnifies the incoming electrical energy through resonant action. By early 1895, Tesla was ready to transmit a signal 50 miles to West Point, New York... But in that same year, disaster struck. A building fire consumed Tesla's lab, destroying his work.

JUST A COINCIDENCE OF COURSE

The timing could not have been worse. In England, a young Italian experimenter named Guglielmo Marconi had been hard at work building a device for wireless telegraphy. The young Marconi had taken out the first wireless telegraphy patent in England in 1896. His device had only a two-circuit system, which some said could not transmit "across a pond." Later Marconi set up long-distance demonstrations, using a Tesla oscillator to transmit the signals across the English Channel.

Tesla filed his own basic radio patent applications in 1897. They were granted in 1900. Marconi's first patent application in America, filed on November 10, 1900, was turned down. Marconi's revised applications over the next three years were repeatedly rejected because of the priority of Tesla and other inventors.

The Patent Office made the following comment in 1903:

Many of the claims are not patentable over Tesla patent numbers 645,576 and 649,621, of record, the amendment to overcome said references as well as Marconi's pretended ignorance of the nature of a "Tesla oscillator" being little short of absurd... the term "Tesla oscillator" has become a household word on both continents [Europe and North America].

But no patent is truly safe, as Tesla's career demonstrates. In 1900, the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company, Ltd. began thriving in the stock markets—due primarily to Marconi's family connections with English aristocracy. British Marconi stock soared from $3 to $22 per share and the glamorous young Italian nobleman was internationally acclaimed. Both Edison and Andrew Carnegie invested in Marconi and Edison became a consulting engineer of American Marconi. Then, on December 12, 1901, Marconi for the first time transmitted and received signals across the Atlantic Ocean.

Otis Pond, an engineer then working for Tesla, said, "Looks as if Marconi got the jump on you." Tesla replied, "Marconi is a good fellow. Let him continue. He is using seventeen of my patents."

But Tesla's calm confidence was shattered in 1904, when the U.S. Patent Office suddenly and surprisingly reversed its previous decisions and gave Marconi a patent for the invention of radio. The reasons for this have never been fully explained, but the powerful financial backing for Marconi in the United States suggests one possible explanation. NO ITS COINCIDENCE!

Tesla was embroiled in other problems at the time, but when Marconi won the Nobel Prize in 1911, Tesla was furious. He sued the Marconi Company for infringement in 1915, but was in no financial condition to litigate a case against a major corporation. It wasn't until 1943—a few months after Tesla's death— that the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Tesla's radio patent number 645,576. The Court had a selfish reason for doing so. The Marconi Company was suing the United States Government for use of its patents in World War I. The Court simply avoided the action by restoring the priority of Tesla's patent over Marconi.


http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_whoradio.html

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, we can clearly see the cords he is carrying around hooked to his generator which is plugged into the wall.....

Yeah, pretty fuckin amazing stuff.  How did they think that up?

it is a demonstration unit, each link prove different points.


standing waves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEevfOU4Z8

and another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyqCgtvMwfw

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Personally, if you could get standing waves out of the fucking things, you still wouldn't have any more than a dick in one hand and a whiskey bottle in the other. 

The Electro Magnetic Spectrum is not gonna carry your electricity when and where you want it in the organization you want it in.

First off, the entire World Gubfia cannot afford such transmitters (yeh a few wires to build a few coils is so fucking expensive compared to the power lines now run on every street! Flush the turd already!) (were they possible, which they ain't----that pesky magnetic shit they always tack onto the electro part), and the second  reason will be left as an exercise to the reader (here's a hint, it is embedded in the first one, using these things >>>> '( )').

Even Tesla fan Thomas Kelley was a bit embarrassed by the bullshit about his electric power transmission. From his lengthy text "The Tesla Genius": http://www.scribd.com/doc/92868057/The-Tesla-Genius

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Tesla was quite sure of his preeminence in wireless technology as he arrived in Colorado Springs, Colorado in May of 1899… Tesla had maintained for some time that the earth was an efficient conductor, suitable for all-points transmission of electric power. His tests, in early July, with the giant Tesla Coil (which he called his “Magnifying Transmitter”) seemed to support his theory of the conducting earth. Now, ever since I first heard of Tesla, I was told that Tesla succeeded in transmitting power effciently over a distance of about 20 miles, and lighting up a 20kW load (or variations thereof). The following is a typical example: “In actuality, he lighted more than 200 incandescent lamps 26 miles away” (McBirnie 1987, 2).

So, it would seem that Tesla successfully tied together the transmission of information and electric power from one station. However, it’s time to burst the apocryphal bubble that supports this legend. In all my research of this matter, I have not find any definitive evidence to support the assertion that Tesla had in fact performed this demonstration. Cheney ([1981] 1983, 148–149) offers the best explanation of what may have actually happened:

It has been reported by various writers that during his power trans-mission experiments in Colorado, Tesla succeeded in lighting up a bank of two hundred 50-watt incandescent lamps wirelessly, at a distance of twenty-six miles from his station. In his own writings, however, no such claim was ever made, nor is there other evidence that he did so.

Ok so he claims no claim was made

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Though Tesla thought that he had passed a current around the earth capable of lighting 200 incandescent lights. So then tesla did make the claim, make up your fucking mind already!It is likely that Tesla really didn’t demonstrate the viability of transmitting power and information while he was in Colorado.

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Furthermore, he didn’t produce any new marketable meaning MONEY MAKING inventions from the Colorado experiments. But his letters to financiers and entrepreneurs promised fortunes from the wireless technology based on these experiments. Unfortunately for Tesla, the rest of the pioneering radio engineers had caught up with him…

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Posthumously, Tesla won a U.S. Supreme Court decision against Marconi and others, essentially declaring Tesla the “father” of radio. But it was some forty years too late for Tesla. Even if the decision had occurred on a timely basis, the Serbian-born genius would have pursued his own goals all the more furiously, even though it was already apparent that the world wanted something else from the fruits of his genius.

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I suppose if JP Morgan is the world!
What a worthless propaganda hit piece!
Where did you dig that shit up from?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Another shameless strawman from the biggest fan of strawmanning on CM.

With his newly created Tesla coils, the inventor soon discovered that he could transmit and receive powerful radio signals when they were tuned to resonate at the same frequency. When a coil is tuned to a signal of a particular frequency, it literally magnifies the incoming electrical energy through resonant action. By early 1895, Tesla was ready to transmit a signal 50 miles to West Point, New York... But in that same year, disaster struck. A building fire consumed Tesla's lab, destroying his work.

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My my, like all other disasters what an unfortunate COINCIDENCE! You know shit just HAPPENS

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all these unexplained mysteries!

you know governments are created to PROTECT our RIGHTS. (Except when dealing with the aristocracy! Oh wait we won that war! Never in America!

LMAO

I saved the LMAO for now ok? LMAO

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Hey, here is a way to save a little gas, lets say we build a big wheel parallel to the ground in the sky, and place its axel in the center of the country, with clothespins attached under it all over,  and when I want to send a  message to say, Anax or Stern, I simply clip it to their clothespin and turn the wheel, and they grab it as it goes by?

Talk about efficient in terms of fuel usage.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, we can clearly see the cords he is carrying around hooked to his generator which is plugged into the wall.....

Yeah, pretty fuckin amazing stuff.  How did they think that up?

it is a demonstration unit, each link prove different points.


standing waves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEevfOU4Z8

and another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyqCgtvMwfw

And what the fuck do standing waves in a water tank have to do with anything?

It has already (by you and others) that standing waves are not involved in this miasmatic cornucopia of codswallow.  (although if it were to have any sort of potential, they would need to be, as they are self reinforcing, which would be necessary .........ah fuck it, it is wasted information to opera bouffe-ists.

sure it is, the transmitter towers set up standing waves inside the spherical capacitor we call earth.

The second one plays around with transverse and longitudinal waves, but one of your incantations requires transverse (your incredible citation) and another longitudinal (another tinfoilers incredible citation).

so you are claiming that sound is transverse then?

But again we have nothingness leading to nothingness, no magic, no possible explanation, no proof of concept.

we have plenty of proof and you have plenty of denial

Gas still costs what it does, and the tesla car does not exist, nor does the ability to move electricity in an organized fashion at industrial strength to points of interest via a carrier of electromagnetic spectrum.

so now you up the ante to it does not work until its powering a few cities.

BTW, I can go get a window fan that is much more powerful and uses 120v of electricity from the wall from Wal-Mart for far cheaper than hiring an IEEE engineer to put some tubular magic box device together to run one. (we call them a fixed position rheostat in the real world) and they are small and embedded in the frame.

So, consider the might and the potentential of the nuclear reactions that take place when in Minnesota it is 70 farenheit morning and 40 farenheit evening across the state. No nuclear bomb has been built that size. To gather that nuclear reaction for exploitation would take equipment, money, men and materiel of brobdingnagian proportions rendering it extremely outside the purview of realism.

Hey, here is a way to save a little gas, lets say we build a big wheel parallel to the ground in the sky, and place its axel in the center of the country, with clothespins attached under it all over,  and when I want to send a  message to say, Anax or Stern, I simply clip it to their clothespin and turn the wheel, and they grab it as it goes by?


Talk about efficient in terms of fuel usage.

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

FR:

Love how one lonely IEEE member's results mean that all the IEEE is in cahoots.

I'm an IEEE member. Trust me, a successful demo of wireless power transmission would've made the front cover of IEEE Spectrum magazine.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
teslas method technically is not 100% wireless since it uses the earth as one wire. technically it is a single wire transmission line.

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as a member of IEEE.

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Tesla claimed all waves are longitudinal and I agree with him on that.

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Plane electromagnetic waves traveling in free space are transverse, i.e., electric and magnetic field are perpendicular to the direction of propagation, as is well known as a result of Maxwell’s equations.

In the recent past a hypothetical waveform is discussed, especially in the alternative scientific community. It is called longitudinal electric or magnetic waves, sometimes shortly denoted as electric scalar waves or simply scalar waves. The direction of the electric or magnetic field of scalar waves, as distinct from transverse waves, should be parallel to the direction of propagation.

Various unusual properties are ascribed to those longitudinal electric waves. They are expected to propagate with superluminal velocity, to cause dangerous electromagnetic pollution, e.g., of mobile phone radiation, and to cause various positive effects in medicine. The newest version is that those longitudinal electric waves are considered to be the physical basis for far range transponders.(3,4) But up to now any experimental evidence for the existence of such scalar waves has not been given.

A strong indication of the existence of longitudinal electric waves in free space would be a theoretically substantiated deduction. K. Meyl has attempted to give such a theoretical proof in a vast number of publications (cf. his web page and references given therein(1)). A critical review(2) of the theoretical part of some of those publications has shown that there was no indication of the existence of scalar waves. Recently two further publications have been appeared.(3,4) Instead of Maxwell’s equation an approach was used that was called the ‘‘new and dual field approach.’’

Abstract—In the recent past a hypothetical waveform, longitudinal electric or magnetic waves, shortly denoted electric scalar waves or simply scalar waves, is discussed. To give a theoretical proof of the existence of such longitudinal electric waves K. Meyl starts with an approach that he calls a ‘‘new and dual field approach’’(3,4) and that should be more general than Maxwell’s equations…

It is shown that this ‘‘new and dual field approach’’ actually consists of the very special relations describing plane transverse electromagnetic waves. The ‘‘Fundamental Field Equation’’ presented in Meyl’s articles also does not have any solution in the form of longitudinal electric waves.

A general weakness of the two articles is that Meyl does not present any solutions or a clue related to possible solutions of the partial differential equations he presents. Thus, for example, the discussion following the ‘‘Fundamental Field Equation’’ (key words: A possible world equation, quantization of the field) lacks any foundation. The model Meyl starts from describes the propagation of electromagnetic fields through media with special properties and does not include any sources responsible for the emission of electromagnetic radiation. Hence, the equations he obtained do not describe the near field behavior of electromagnetic waves. The consequence is that the properties he ascribed to the near field are also without any foundation.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The second one plays around with transverse and longitudinal waves, but one of your incantations requires transverse (your incredible citation) and another longitudinal (another tinfoilers incredible citation).

so you are claiming that sound is transverse then?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
you might want to consider taking your meds before you post. They may turn out more intelligible.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
teslas method technically is not 100% wireless since it uses the earth as one wire. technically it is a single wire transmission line.

The earth is not a wire. Thus the system is wireless unless you are suggesting Tesla was misrepresenting the invention as "wireless".

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as a member of IEEE.

You're a member of the IEEE?

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Tesla claimed all waves are longitudinal and I agree with him on that.

Total bullshit. Meyl was ripped apart for obvious flaws in his method in scientific journals for claiming there was such a thing as "scalar" AKA electro-magnetic longitudinal waves existing in free space. This is the very crux of the issue when discussing Tesla's failures with wireless transmission, e.g. Dietrich Kühlke's essay from 2008:

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Plane electromagnetic waves traveling in free space are transverse, i.e., electric and magnetic field are perpendicular to the direction of propagation, as is well known as a result of Maxwell’s equations.

In the recent past a hypothetical waveform is discussed, especially in the alternative scientific community. It is called longitudinal electric or magnetic waves, sometimes shortly denoted as electric scalar waves or simply scalar waves. The direction of the electric or magnetic field of scalar waves, as distinct from transverse waves, should be parallel to the direction of propagation.

Various unusual properties are ascribed to those longitudinal electric waves. They are expected to propagate with superluminal velocity, to cause dangerous electromagnetic pollution, e.g., of mobile phone radiation, and to cause various positive effects in medicine. The newest version is that those longitudinal electric waves are considered to be the physical basis for far range transponders.(3,4) But up to now any experimental evidence for the existence of such scalar waves has not been given.

A strong indication of the existence of longitudinal electric waves in free space would be a theoretically substantiated deduction. K. Meyl has attempted to give such a theoretical proof in a vast number of publications (cf. his web page and references given therein(1)). A critical review(2) of the theoretical part of some of those publications has shown that there was no indication of the existence of scalar waves. Recently two further publications have been appeared.(3,4) Instead of Maxwell’s equation an approach was used that was called the ‘‘new and dual field approach.’’

Abstract—In the recent past a hypothetical waveform, longitudinal electric or magnetic waves, shortly denoted electric scalar waves or simply scalar waves, is discussed. To give a theoretical proof of the existence of such longitudinal electric waves K. Meyl starts with an approach that he calls a ‘‘new and dual field approach’’(3,4) and that should be more general than Maxwell’s equations…

It is shown that this ‘‘new and dual field approach’’ actually consists of the very special relations describing plane transverse electromagnetic waves. The ‘‘Fundamental Field Equation’’ presented in Meyl’s articles also does not have any solution in the form of longitudinal electric waves.

A general weakness of the two articles is that Meyl does not present any solutions or a clue related to possible solutions of the partial differential equations he presents. Thus, for example, the discussion following the ‘‘Fundamental Field Equation’’ (key words: A possible world equation, quantization of the field) lacks any foundation. The model Meyl starts from describes the propagation of electromagnetic fields through media with special properties and does not include any sources responsible for the emission of electromagnetic radiation. Hence, the equations he obtained do not describe the near field behavior of electromagnetic waves. The consequence is that the properties he ascribed to the near field are also without any foundation.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quit running around the barn, 0:

sure it is, the transmitter towers set up standing waves inside the spherical capacitor we call earth.

^^^^fuckin read tesla, that requires 60 mile high antennae which even he's said that; and why he even got involved in fucking around with his tesla coils. To try and overcome it, it was wholly unsuccessful.

Heres one quick and dirty why, I wont go into big fuckin details since you have no capacity to retain anything you have been taught as evidenced by saying the same old tired incorrect shit that has been repeatedly shown to be fraudulent again and again for pages....but what you gonna do to keep the refrigerator cold when it rains, or keep the iron lung pumping in a lightning storm, or keep the lights running in change of season?

Hey, why aint none of this shit working today, why ain't ol doc meryl running around in a tesla car?   Dont start the gubfia plot shit, and only you have the knowledge to overcome it thru your legal and analytical mind, cuz the shit as you have demonstrated is rife on youtube, and there are more tinfoilers (and better ones) than you running around loose.