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Master2811 -> Money Scammers (5/15/2012 4:41:56 AM)

I had the honour of meeting 4 of them here. It all starts about the same. A few dozen of promises, half a dozen pictures and then the demanding money starts.




ShaharThorne -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:03:47 AM)

I recommend reading the TOS first...you are not allowed to blacklist anyone on the site.





Master2811 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:19:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

I recommend reading the TOS first...you are not allowed to blacklist anyone on the site.


OK, I did not know that. The header of this section said that you could debate everything. I reported them to the proper authorities anyway. There might be a network of scammers behind it.




DarkSteven -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:24:55 AM)

I've encountered quite a few of them. One of the tip-offs is that they address me as Master right away. Another is that they generically say something about my profile, nothing specific.

The general difference is that a genuine woman will address me as an individual, and a spammer will send me a copypaste message.




Master2811 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:28:46 AM)

Hey, I had two deaf ones in one week! [:)]




kalikshama -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:33:52 AM)

Ya, being deaf prevent you from "voice verifying" - confirming female gender by hearing the person's voice when speaking the her on the phone.

I will say what I say to all the men complaining about scammers - y'all have it easy. When people want your money they out themselves right away, as opposed to the cheating married men who often try to hide this info much longer.




LadyPact -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:34:49 AM)

If all you are attracting are people who want your cash, you probably need a different approach.




Master2811 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:45:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Ya, being deaf prevent you from "voice verifying" - confirming female gender by hearing the person's voice when speaking the her on the phone.

I will say what I say to all the men complaining about scammers - y'all have it easy. When people want your money they out themselves right away, as opposed to the cheating married men who often try to hide this info much longer.


My problem is that due to my travelling I have seen real misery on this planet. I can imagine very well that people want to get out of misery and are willing to go far. So, when someone after a short getting acquainted starts to tell about the misery in her life I do not rule out that she is making things up. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.




Master2811 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 5:46:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Ya, being deaf prevent you from "voice verifying" - confirming female gender by hearing the person's voice when speaking the her on the phone.

I will say what I say to all the men complaining about scammers - y'all have it easy. When people want your money they out themselves right away, as opposed to the cheating married men who often try to hide this info much longer.


My problem is that due to my travelling I have seen real misery on this planet. I can imagine very well that people want to get out of misery and are willing to go far. So, when someone after a short getting acquainted starts to tell about the misery in her life I do not rule out that she is telling the truth. I always give people the benefit of the doubt




kalikshama -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 6:40:23 AM)

I too am compassionate, but not naive. There's a reason that collarme includes a warning with every single email you receive.

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kalikshama -> RE: Money Scammers (5/15/2012 6:42:53 AM)

http://www.collarme.com/personals/scammers.htm

Online Safety

A note about picture privacy

It is important to be aware that when you send private and potentially compromising pictures to others online, you're effectively giving up control of those pictures. Therefore, we advise all users to carefully consider their privacy needs relating to their job, family, religious institution, etc. before sending out private pictures, especially to persons of recent acquaintance.

Common Scams

Please: DO NOT report scammers to our support staff!

Reporting scammers to our support staff clogs up our support system, wastes our limited resources, and does absolutely nothing to help stop the scammers. Instead of contacting support, we have a reporting system that allows you to report any message, profile, or journal entry with a few button clicks. Using the reporting system is the only helpful way to report scammers to us.

Scammers want your money and will make up ANY story to get it. Below are some of the most common scams you will encounter online:

Scam #1 - Help! My plane crashed in Ghana and I need money to get home!

This is a perennial favorite among the scammers and the most common scam we see. The scammer pretends to be a fashion model traveling abroad on a photo shoot. Misfortune of misfortunes, her plane has crashed in Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, or some other country and she needs you to send her money to get home. In reality, the scammer lives in the country where he or she is trying to get you to send the money and has no intention of ever meeting with you.

Scam #2 - Offers to send you money

This, the second most common scam we see, has numerous variations. However, all of them revolve around the basic premise that the scammer sends you a Cashier's Check for a very large amount of money and then you send back a check for smaller amount. These scams are designed to appeal to your desire to get "something for nothing" and may involve a mining operation, a foreign bank, a long lost relative, or a host of other variations. The catch, of course, is that the check sent by the scammer (and drawn on a foreign bank) is worthless. You may be surprised to learn that this scam, officially known as the Spanish Prisoner Con, has been in use (in one form or another) since the 1920s.

Scam #3 - I need money for travel expenses (airfare, gasoline, etc.)

If you plan on meeting a user who'll be traveling to you from a distant location, think long and hard before sending them money for their travel expenses. Unlike some other scams, these scammers may be completely honest about their gender and appearance, show themselves to you on webcam, and talk to you for weeks. Neverthless, once your money is sent, they'll disappear, never to be seen again.

If you wish to reimburse visitors for travel expenses, the safest approach is to do so upon their arrival. Be particularly wary of anyone who asks you to send them money via Western Union, Cashier's Check, or MoneyGram. Remember, the moment you send money to a stranger may also be the last moment that you see or hear from the stranger or your money again.

Scam #4 - You receive a text msg or other request to call an unfamiliar number

This is a relatively new scam and here is how it works. The scammer, once they have your phone number, will send you a text message asking you to call a specific number. Once you call, you will be charged a fee on your cell phone account. Alternatively, you may be charged a fee for sending them a text message or for calling their foreign telephone number. The moral here is to be cautious in calling unfamiliar phone numbers you receive in a text message or otherwise, especially if they are located in another country.

Scam #5 - Duping you into purchasing paid services

These scammers will feign an interest in you and then send you a link to website or a phone number (not necessarily a 900 number) where you will be required to pay a subscription fee to see the scammer's profile, see them "on cam", or speak to them on the phone. Of couse, these scammers work for the companies in question and are collecting a profit for every 'sucker' they can get to sign-up for their paid services.

Scam #6 - Offers to help you find a job

In this scam, the scammer will offer to help you find a job, often a very desirable job in exchange for a "handling fee".

Scam #7 - Misleading on-site messages

In this scam, the scammer will send you an on-site messages announcing an "Official" Collarme contest, verification program, etc. They'll use official sounding language and sometimes even create logos to convince you that you're reading an announcement from the site. Their goal of course is to fool you into sending them money by any means possible. To avoid being taken in by these scams, just examine the sender's name in the message list. If it's not colored gold it's not from the site and no scammer can spoof that.

Scam #8 - "Over-the-Top" profiles and stories

Another scammer favorite is to post a picture of a woman who looks like a fashion model with a profile that describes how she wants a lifetime of no-limits slavery, etc. These scammers will often describe their current situation in equally bizarre, over-the-top terms. Remember to always use common sense when evaluating profiles. If a profile seems "over-the-top", it probably is.

Scam #9 - Requests for "tribute"

This scam is typically perpetrated by persons (male or female) claiming to be dominant women. Commonly, the scammer will claim that they are inundated with messages and that you need to send them a "tribute" (money) to prove your sincerity before they will speak with you further. Typically, but not always, they will request that you send the money via an Amazon Gift Certificate. Not uncommonly, once the money is received, the scammer will stop responding to messages or delete their account. So, before sending anyone 'tribute', remember that your only reward may be a lower bank balance.

Quick Tips to avoid being scammed:

1) Mention of any of the following is a dead give-away that you're dealing with a scammer: Cashier's Check, Western Union, MoneyGram, Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Cote De'Ivory, or Cameroon.
2) One thing you may notice about scammers is that they often have a very poor understanding of the language and geography of the country they are claiming to be from. For example, you may see a user claiming to be from the United States who has a very unusual way of phrasing their sentences and/or lists themselves as living in locations that don't make sense.
3) Don't give out your personal information such as your instant messenger ID, email address, or phone number to users you just met online. Scammers will often try to take your conversation with them off the site quickly, often including their email address in the first message they send to you. The safest approach is to keep your conversations with unfamiliar users within the messaging system until you know them better.
4) Don't call unfamilar numbers you receive in text messages on your cell phone.
5) Our very best advice: Don't send money to strangers!




Master2811 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 4:03:50 AM)

Thanks for updating. I had another money scammer chat last nigt. She (or is she a he?) insisted on arranging the airplane tickets herself, because she/he did not want anyone to find out that she/he was leaving. At first she also insisted that I had to pay for her visum to Belgium. How nice. Americans do not need visa for Belgium and most European countries. Her profile on CM is deleted BTW




amaidiamond -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 4:18:18 AM)

Yep theres loads of them here, tis one of the bad points of the interwebs!




punisher440 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 10:08:51 AM)

Here's a scam not seen as often,a friend of mine 'met' a lady online.Turns out she was in Nigeria but was a U.S. citizen but was not asking for a plane ticket or money.'She' told him she was working and almost had enough to buy her ticket and wanted his address to start sending her 'stuff' to his home ahead of time.Within a few days,the deliveries of stuff started coming in....new electronics,new clothes,jewelry,etc.I tried telling him something wasn't right....well,in a few days he had the F.B.I. knocking on his door.Turns out the stuff was being bought using stolen credit card numbers.Luckily the F.B.I. believed my friend and only took the stuff.The F.B.I. had him keep talking to 'her' and within a week,'she' said it wasn't working out between them and 'she' was going to send a cousin over to his house to get her things...when he showed up,guess who was waiting?Sigh..I like happy endings.There are many ways to scam if you let them do it.




OsideGirl -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 10:22:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

If all you are attracting are people who want your cash, you probably need a different approach.


Exactly. You're responsible for your own experiences. If you're continually ending up with scammers, then it's something you're doing.

Part 2: We get one of the threads at least once a week.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 10:27:26 AM)

Don't the new scammers go after people actively? And don't the targets have to be essentially "anyone with an account"? I don't think it's a matter of attracting them as such, it's a matter of not immediately deleting their mail.




OsideGirl -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 10:47:50 AM)

My understanding is that it is young women with impossibly hot photos being contacted by male doms. When his Tallness signed up on CM, he received I think one from Nigeria that was so poorly done it was obvious. However, he contacted a 20 something who said she was in AZ and it took a couple of conversations to come out that she wanted money. After that he just toyed with "her", because the phone number was registered to a guy that was like a rash all over the internet.




kalikshama -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 10:56:33 AM)

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wanted his address to start sending her 'stuff' to his home ahead of time.Within a few days,the deliveries of stuff started coming in....new electronics,new clothes,jewelry,etc.


Absent the hot chick, that's similar to a work-at-home scam:

http://www.moneycrashers.com/work-from-home-scams-list-fake-jobs/

5 Common Fraudulent Offers

Don’t get caught in the traps of work from home scams designed to take your money and leave you to blame in the eyes of the law. These top five job descriptions are almost always signs of fraud.

1. Package Forwarding

This con hurts victims twice over. Its artists will cheat targets out of their own money, and then bring the police to the door to question a suspect, not help a victim.

A thief will steal your credit card (as many identity theft victim stories begin) and use it to purchase goods. The thief knows that he can’t ship them to his own address without attracting attention, so he sets up phony ads on Craigslist and other online boards promising payments for forwarding packages, often under the guise of helping a neighbor who’s traveling or an overstocked business.

The scam victims then receive the package, along with instructions on where to send the package next. After re-mailing the stolen goods — with your own money — you’ll supposedly get a check for your services. Sometimes payment comes, and sometimes it doesn’t. In either event, it’s usually the police who show up wanting to know why you received stolen goods at their own address. Try explaining that one.




punisher440 -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 11:05:50 AM)

Pretty much the same,except a guy showed up to collect the packages but got collected by the F.B.I. and the 'woman' that started the scam wasn't using hot pics....just an average looking woman doing average everyday things in the pics 'she' sent.I guess this one was a bit brighter than most and knew better than to steal model pics.




Marc2b -> RE: Money Scammers (5/16/2012 12:34:36 PM)

quote:

Another is that they generically say something about my profile, nothing specific.


My favorites are the ones who say "I've read your profile and think we'd be compatible."

Really?

You read my profile?

Including the part right at the very top?

You know, the part that goes:


I AM NOT SEEKING ANY KIND OF RELATIONSHIP.

I am here for the message boards. I am in a steady, mutually happy and mutually fulfilling boyfriend/girlfriend, vanilla/BDSM relationship and am not searching for anyone to be any kind of slave/sub/play partner/girl friend, etc. I am quite private about my personal life and am not interested in munches, “get togethers,” etc.


So... what part of that made you think we'd be compatible?





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