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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:38:05 PM   
mnottertail


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The way I like to look at it is, I walk on two good legs, should I have surgery so that I can limp? 

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:39:17 PM   
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If that's what you want to do nobody's going to stop you

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:39:50 PM   
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Do you walk all your life with a limp because it's what you are or do you heal it?


I guess it would depend on the cause of the limp. Was I born with it and I'm trying to conform to society's idea of acceptable and comfortable? Or was I injured?


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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:41:54 PM   
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Okay, here's the deal... having fetishes doesn't keep you from loving. That'd be like me saying being pansexual keeps me from loving. It doesn't. Does it make things interesting or more difficult sometimes? Sure does. Did it feel wrong for a while? Yes, it did. Did I learn to accept who I am and meld it with relationships that would bring me the kind of love I wanted? Yes.

Instead of learning how to accept yourself and desires that come naturally, you are indeed repressing them by not allowing them a part in your (hopefully) healthy relationships.

I guess if it works for you now, okay. I have a feeling it will weasel itself out eventually though, like gay men who come out in their 40's after having built up a life with a wife and children.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:42:49 PM   
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Exactly, if a fetish is caused by a conditioning or a repressed e-motion the need will go when the root cause is lifted, if a tree has it's roots pulled out the tree will die, if the conditiong behind the fetish is removed the fetish will erase.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:44:37 PM   
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I guess everyone is different, I've never said otherwise, if your happy with your fetish I would say embrace if not work on the root cause, that's all I've ever said. It just didn't work for me at all.


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Okay, here's the deal... having fetishes doesn't keep you from loving. That'd be like me saying being pansexual keeps me from loving. It doesn't. Does it make things interesting or more difficult sometimes? Sure does. Did it feel wrong for a while? Yes, it did. Did I learn to accept who I am and meld it with relationships that would bring me the kind of love I wanted? Yes.

Instead of learning how to accept yourself and desires that come naturally, you are indeed repressing them by not allowing them a part in your (hopefully) healthy relationships.

I guess if it works for you now, okay. I have a feeling it will weasel itself out eventually though, like gay men who come out in their 40's after having built up a life with a wife and children.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:46:14 PM   
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With me it is only when emotions were repressed that the fetish need would be more, now was there not the need isn't there, for me control and love are 2 far removed from each other.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:47:30 PM   
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Exactly, if a fetish is caused by a conditioning or a repressed e-motion the need will go when the root cause is lifted, if a tree has it's roots pulled out the tree will die, if the conditiong behind the fetish is removed the fetish will erase.


The thing is, you keep trying to heal yourself of things that people here don't wish to be healed of. They don't have a problem with it. You continue to post threads about how you have found a way to heal yourself and yet you are here continuing to post about it unhealed. You go off on a number of things that you claim will help you and they aren't working because you keep posting. Have some self control. If you think it is that wrong, shut down the computer, porn or whatever else you are doing, stick it out and refrain, find yourself something else to do.

You... need to control yourself. You don't attempt to do that and then call in your back up socks or alter personality profiles to pull off the same attention seeking, which may be more of your problem than the kink you are so attracted to.

Shit or get off the pot.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:47:47 PM   
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What I'm trying to get at is this: Why try to completely remove the fetish (which I'm fairly positive won't stick) instead of learning to channel it into something beneficial and healthy?

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:50:57 PM   
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I felt being controlling or controlled stopped me feeling healthy so I decided to change, if you feel its beneficial to you, I'm not going to try and get you to change, everyone has a different outlook and moral compass, there's not really a lot else I can say.
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What I'm trying to get at is this: Why try to completely remove the fetish (which I'm fairly positive won't stick) instead of learning to channel it into something beneficial and healthy?

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:52:05 PM   
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That didn't answer my question at all.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:52:41 PM   
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If like you say people don't wish to heal, that's entirely up to them, I wouldn't judge them so please don't judge me.


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Twenty9male

Exactly, if a fetish is caused by a conditioning or a repressed e-motion the need will go when the root cause is lifted, if a tree has it's roots pulled out the tree will die, if the conditiong behind the fetish is removed the fetish will erase.


The thing is, you keep trying to heal yourself of things that people here don't wish to be healed of. They don't have a problem with it. You continue to post threads about how you have found a way to heal yourself and yet you are here continuing to post about it unhealed. You go off on a number of things that you claim will help you and they aren't working because you keep posting. Have some self control. If you think it is that wrong, shut down the computer, porn or whatever else you are doing, stick it out and refrain, find yourself something else to do.

You... need to control yourself. You don't attempt to do that and then call in your back up socks or alter personality profiles to pull off the same attention seeking, which may be more of your problem than the kink you are so attracted to.

Shit or get off the pot.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:54:40 PM   
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If like you say people don't wish to heal, that's entirely up to them, I wouldn't judge them so please don't judge me.


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Twenty9male

Exactly, if a fetish is caused by a conditioning or a repressed e-motion the need will go when the root cause is lifted, if a tree has it's roots pulled out the tree will die, if the conditiong behind the fetish is removed the fetish will erase.


The thing is, you keep trying to heal yourself of things that people here don't wish to be healed of. They don't have a problem with it. You continue to post threads about how you have found a way to heal yourself and yet you are here continuing to post about it unhealed. You go off on a number of things that you claim will help you and they aren't working because you keep posting. Have some self control. If you think it is that wrong, shut down the computer, porn or whatever else you are doing, stick it out and refrain, find yourself something else to do.

You... need to control yourself. You don't attempt to do that and then call in your back up socks or alter personality profiles to pull off the same attention seeking, which may be more of your problem than the kink you are so attracted to.

Shit or get off the pot.




Excuse me? Are you the same person that said I didn't want to be healed of Fibromyalgia and did that accusation, judgement, attack on me? You can't even keep your story or characters straight.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:54:42 PM   
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If your really interested all I could say is research it yourself, if you think my explanation isnt helpful, I'm not a pratictioner or a counsellor, there's not a lot else I can say.
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That didn't answer my question at all.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:55:53 PM   
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I beleive fibromyalgia is caused by repressed emotion so I stand by what I said.
Eft would cure fibromyalgia if done properly.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Twenty9male

If like you say people don't wish to heal, that's entirely up to them, I wouldn't judge them so please don't judge me.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit


quote:

ORIGINAL: Twenty9male

Exactly, if a fetish is caused by a conditioning or a repressed e-motion the need will go when the root cause is lifted, if a tree has it's roots pulled out the tree will die, if the conditiong behind the fetish is removed the fetish will erase.


The thing is, you keep trying to heal yourself of things that people here don't wish to be healed of. They don't have a problem with it. You continue to post threads about how you have found a way to heal yourself and yet you are here continuing to post about it unhealed. You go off on a number of things that you claim will help you and they aren't working because you keep posting. Have some self control. If you think it is that wrong, shut down the computer, porn or whatever else you are doing, stick it out and refrain, find yourself something else to do.

You... need to control yourself. You don't attempt to do that and then call in your back up socks or alter personality profiles to pull off the same attention seeking, which may be more of your problem than the kink you are so attracted to.

Shit or get off the pot.




Excuse me? Are you the same person that said I didn't want to be healed of Fibromyalgia and did that accusation, judgement, attack on me? You can't even keep your story or characters straight.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:56:43 PM   
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If your really interested all I could say is research it yourself, if you think my explanation isnt helpful, I'm not a pratictioner or a counsellor, there's not a lot else I can say.
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That didn't answer my question at all.


I didn't ask about the practice. I asked about YOU. Only you could have answered my question, and you didn't.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:57:50 PM   
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What question?

Lockit I feel you have attacked me on every post I ever made so yes I am very defensive when I reply to you.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:58:46 PM   
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LOL So those born and as an infant that have fibromyalgia must be repressing a past life or something? Dude... you are not a doctor and your hypothesis on this and the fetish thing is your own opinion and not medical fact. Get over yourself, stop repressing yourself, for if your theory was correct, you would be to disabled by fibro to be here posting or living a life.

The only thing repressed about me is what I can't say to you because of the mods.

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 12:59:38 PM   
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Ja, you are not a doctor, do not play one on tv, and are dispensing medical advice while broadcasting it across several states.  You might be aware that while the law of new age guru asswipes is on your side, the law of man in my country and your country (that would be international) is not.  

Please do not provide your untutored opinions on fibromyalgia in such illegal fashion.  

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RE: Emotional freedom technique to get rid of unwanted ... - 5/16/2012 1:00:04 PM   
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What I'm trying to get at is this: Why try to completely remove the fetish (which I'm fairly positive won't stick) instead of learning to channel it into something beneficial and healthy?


This questions.

This one right here. I have serious doubts you will answer it, because you don't have a good answer. The one you tried giving previously really had nothing to do with this question.

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