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Lockit -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 6:51:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Twenty9male I don't see it as stupid at all. I would find it immoral for a man to give money to a woman who is with another man, you may see that as abandoning kids but I would see it differently. I'm sure any man still loved his kids and finds it hard to not have them with him, do you have any idea how it feels for a man to see someone else bring up his children? If your gonna insist on replying to every post I make, try and be a bit more respectful in future. quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit So basically you are blaming divorce and child custody... however it works on women that divorce and go live with other men? Shall we repeat history where a woman was ruled by her husband and couldn't be free unless she risked everything? Women could rarely find employment. Women lost the children to men when a divorce was allowed. Some men to get rid of their wife would put her in a sanitarium. So now things have changed and while there is still an evolution in all of this... women often cannot make the same pay as a man doing the same job. Many divorced women would love it if daddy was involved and don't have a spouse, raising the kids in haphazardness situations, where laws have had to be created so that men did support their children at a time when men could get shared custody. As to do I know how a man feels watching his children be raised by another man... I stated that my first cause was fathers rights. I married a man with four children back in the seventies. I cannot say exactly how he felt as I wasn't him, but I can sure tell you I had his back, but the children came first above all else. I know what we went through very well. I also know what I went through... more importantly what my children went through when their father decided to play the women and booze at their risk and then abandon them because I left him to protect us all. I didn't get child support for fourteen years and was mostly alone in raising those kids. I also know custody battles these days... where the one with the children has to ask permission from the state to move for a better position in which to support those children even if the father/mother isn't paying child support or visiting the children. Could things be better? Of course they could, but to blame women for the ills of all of this... history, divorce, custody and all... shows you are not trying to see in fairness and what is best for children. Work for social change may have a motivator in some anger, but to try to change anything in anger is ineffective as it causes 'sides' and a 'battle'. In this case... real love for the children could create compromise and a working out solutions. Had people done that from the start... we wouldn't need all these lawyers and laws to protect the children from those that claim to love them, fighting for their rights. That is the real shame or atrocity in all of this. What happens to the children.

kalikshama -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 7:02:49 AM)
quote: I'm sure any man still loved his kids and finds it hard to not have them with him, do you have any idea how it feels for a man to see someone else bring up his children? Why didn't this man seek full or joint custody? There's several male posters here who have one or the other. I have less than no sympathy for a "man" who whines that he does not see his kids enough who does not avail himself of all the measures available to him under the law to get joint or full custody. Don't waste your breath with "She won't let me see them" - what has the court told you? Haven't bothered? Hmph.

Marc2b -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 7:02:57 AM)
quote: ... like multiple orgasms??? Not true. Men can have multiple orgasms. Believe me, I know. [sm=insane.gif]

Twenty9male -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 7:19:55 AM)
That's why there's a man rights movement, the help give men like that the chance of getting custody, that's far from the only reason for the movement though. quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: I'm sure any man still loved his kids and finds it hard to not have them with him, do you have any idea how it feels for a man to see someone else bring up his children? Why didn't this man seek full or joint custody? There's several male posters here who have one or the other. I have less than no sympathy for a "man" who whines that he does not see his kids enough who does not avail himself of all the measures available to him under the law to get joint or full custody. Don't waste your breath with "She won't let me see them" - what has the court told you? Haven't bothered? Hmph.

kalikshama -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 7:28:21 AM)
How many are denied custody due to their gender vs don't have custody because they haven't made the effort?

tj444 -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 8:05:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marc2b quote: ... like multiple orgasms??? Not true. Men can have multiple orgasms. Believe me, I know. [sm=insane.gif] I know but very few men do.. 99% of men dont.. and of the few men that do, its fewer and much farther apart.. and i personally have had multiples 2-3 minutes apart for over two hours.. I know other women here have posted of similar.. Sooooo... I would never give mine up for an easier time or to earn 25% more, etc.. [:)]

mnottertail -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 8:08:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama How many are denied custody due to their gender vs don't have custody because they haven't made the effort? How many are denied custody due to an inability to have multiple orgasms? Hell, we're all squirters (or dribblers)...

Twenty9male -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 8:25:35 AM)
That was one of the stupidest things I have read in a while! A man angry because she got the kids abandons his kids? You know buddy.. my first cause in life was fathers rights. Those that actually wanted something to do with the kids and supported them no matter how things went in court. You are talking out your ass if you could say something like you just did. It isn't about mom or dad... it should be about the kids

MileHighM -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 10:34:31 AM)
Preface: I don't give a fuck about the rest of the discussion just the custody part---- Men do get fucked. Case 1: Friend 29 with 3yo daughter, been raising her her whole life.. why? stripper momma (who did meth during her pregnancy by the way) has been in and out of jail constantly for the past three years. He filed for full custody, why, cause he loves his daughter. Mom didn't even contest, yet what did he get 80% custody!!!!!!! What shit is that! the court is biased that's why! Case2: Mom leaves son with grand parents all day, son gets raped by cousin who is also with grand parents. Dad petitions for Full custody until mom can find better daycare arrangements.... then here comes the court...fuck you dad, mom keeps her 50% custody, you owe more child support and oh yeah we aren't even looking into the rape cause mom denies it. 3 months later son is still at grand parents, and in therapy, and so is dad.... I still think moms should have a preference for custody, but come on, a preference, not a right! why? cause a good dad is better than a bad mom What a fucking country..

Karmastic -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 10:40:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder Women are taking over the world. They've formed a secret society of the most powerful and influential women of the world and manipulating the World Order, just waiting for the right moment to strike. The society first though has to weaken the male population so they will be subservient and be our slaves. Watch your back. We're always watching you. lmfao! [:)] [:)] reminds me of a Simpsons episode, when the dolphins took over the same way

Karmastic -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 10:45:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Im going to go with TJ, I wouldnt be a man for all themoney in the world. Just for the multiple orgasms n squirting ones too. and the boobage. i get how any person (man or woman) wouldn't want to be the other sex because they like being what they are. i agree totally. i feel bad for Ts who are in the wrong body. re multiple O's - men can have them too. two isn't unusual over a few minutes if i'm really excited with her and like my handiwork.

Twenty9male -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 10:46:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MileHighM Preface: I don't give a fuck about the rest of the discussion just the custody part---- Men do get fucked. Case 1: Friend 29 with 3yo daughter, been raising her her whole life.. why? stripper momma (who did meth during her pregnancy by the way) has been in and out of jail constantly for the past three years. He filed for full custody, why, cause he loves his daughter. Mom didn't even contest, yet what did he get 80% custody!!!!!!! What shit is that! the court is biased that's why! Case2: Mom leaves son with grand parents all day, son gets raped by cousin who is also with grand parents. Dad petitions for Full custody until mom can find better daycare arrangements.... then here comes the court...fuck you dad, mom keeps her 50% custody, you owe more child support and oh yeah we aren't even looking into the rape cause mom denies it. 3 months later son is still at grand parents, and in therapy, and so is dad.... I still think moms should have a preference for custody, but come on, a preference, not a right! why? cause a good dad is better than a bad mom What a fucking country.. why should they? someone may say women are more nurturing so they should have children. On the other hand if someone was to say men are more assertive or succesful in the workplace so they should get the better jobs that would be considered unacceptable.

Karmastic -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 10:47:07 AM)
quote: as far as a man's dick goes.. just one word... replaceable.. totally agree. i just received my new one over the internet (cheaper in Canada).

Lucylastic -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 10:54:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Karmastic quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Im going to go with TJ, I wouldnt be a man for all themoney in the world. Just for the multiple orgasms n squirting ones too. and the boobage. i get how any person (man or woman) wouldn't want to be the other sex because they like being what they are. i agree totally. i feel bad for Ts who are in the wrong body. re multiple O's - men can have them too. two isn't unusual over a few minutes if i'm really excited with her and like my handiwork. Yes I know:) but having six in the space of ten minutes is something I will keep thanks:) Not all women are multi orgasmic, many cant find a gspot. Many dont squirt either, we all have our differences:) I like being multi Orgasmic, but Its not the the ultimate for me, I like it when I have them but I love quickies too..its the journey ...as well as the final destination that makes me happy. Plus.. I enjoy teasing and denial so I get to "get off" and on again , without having to wait for the recovery period:) Passion and lust comes in so many wonderful forms

PeonForHer -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 11:01:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Karmastic quote: as far as a man's dick goes.. just one word... replaceable.. totally agree. i just received my new one over the internet (cheaper in Canada). I dropped Biology at age fifteen, but from what I remember of it, TJ shouldn't need to replace her man's dick because she shouldn't have one in the first place. Still, things may be different your side of the pond, with that pioneering spirit I hear so much about, and all.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 11:06:15 AM)
Perhaps TJ meant 'interchangeable'? And now I have the detachable penis song in my head. I BLAME MARKY.

Karmastic -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 11:06:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Karmastic quote: as far as a man's dick goes.. just one word... replaceable.. totally agree. i just received my new one over the internet (cheaper in Canada). I dropped Biology at age fifteen, but from what I remember of it, TJ shouldn't need to replace her man's dick because she shouldn't have one in the first place. Still, things may be different your side of the pond, with that pioneering spirit I hear so much about, and all. you should visit bro. they have them in vending machines over here.

Owner59 -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 11:11:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MileHighM Preface: I don't give a fuck about the rest of the discussion just the custody part---- Men do get fucked. Case 1: Friend 29 with 3yo daughter, been raising her her whole life.. why? stripper momma (who did meth during her pregnancy by the way) has been in and out of jail constantly for the past three years. He filed for full custody, why, cause he loves his daughter. Mom didn't even contest, yet what did he get 80% custody!!!!!!! What shit is that! the court is biased that's why! Case2: Mom leaves son with grand parents all day, son gets raped by cousin who is also with grand parents. Dad petitions for Full custody until mom can find better daycare arrangements.... then here comes the court...fuck you dad, mom keeps her 50% custody, you owe more child support and oh yeah we aren't even looking into the rape cause mom denies it. 3 months later son is still at grand parents, and in therapy, and so is dad.... I still think moms should have a preference for custody, but come on, a preference, not a right! why? cause a good dad is better than a bad mom What a fucking country.. I have to agree.The numbers point to a disparity. Not sure that women are responsible for how this has come to pass,tho.Most laws/rules are passed by men. Blaming women or Gloria Steinem for this certainly isn`t the answer either, tho this doesn`t stop the loser-men from do so. There is no doubt a long established traditional family pattern that`s mostly to blame for woman getting custody more often. I also think that it`s not the dad or mom`s welfare/emotional state that`s the #1 consideration when judges make their decisions but rather the UMs welfare. It`s THEIR world that`s at stake and judges tend to not want to divide offspring like assets between parents. Their stability and peace of mind are what`s paramount.

Lockit -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 11:12:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MileHighM Preface: I don't give a fuck about the rest of the discussion just the custody part---- Men do get fucked. Case 1: Friend 29 with 3yo daughter, been raising her her whole life.. why? stripper momma (who did meth during her pregnancy by the way) has been in and out of jail constantly for the past three years. He filed for full custody, why, cause he loves his daughter. Mom didn't even contest, yet what did he get 80% custody!!!!!!! What shit is that! the court is biased that's why! Case2: Mom leaves son with grand parents all day, son gets raped by cousin who is also with grand parents. Dad petitions for Full custody until mom can find better daycare arrangements.... then here comes the court...fuck you dad, mom keeps her 50% custody, you owe more child support and oh yeah we aren't even looking into the rape cause mom denies it. 3 months later son is still at grand parents, and in therapy, and so is dad.... I still think moms should have a preference for custody, but come on, a preference, not a right! why? cause a good dad is better than a bad mom What a fucking country.. I'm very sorry about this... I really am, but dad didn't get fucked... the children did. The courts have turned this into a 'fair' system [8\|], you must have serious proof of something wrong and even then, you run into the idiots in charge and often times don't even get into court. My grandson and his step siblings were being beaten with sticks in the name of god and parental authority. They were subjected to far more as were daddy's other children... from many women. Kansas said that was okay. Missouri said it wasn't. Mama lived in Missouri, daddy in Kansas. We could do nothing to protect those children other than break the law ourselves. Finally daddy took it out of everyone's hands... he shot himself in front of the siblings. The children are the ones that lose and we need to be fighting for better situations for them.

PeonForHer -> RE: Any men's rights activist on here? (5/18/2012 11:17:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Twenty9male http://antimisandry.com/articles/#axzz1vEBzC8L2 Just looked it up. One look at the headline says it all: "Anti Misandry: Curing Feminist Indoctrination". Sigh. I suppose it's a waste of time arguing that masculinism and feminism could, and should, go hand in hand, because they're both about freedom and equality? Why, exactly, are feminists the enemies of men, and not those who hold power over men's lives? I mean, really. Has it been feminists who've been packing young men off to get slaughtered in wars? I actually have some sympathy for a kind of masculinist movement. So, in fact, do the feminists I know well. But in the hands of people like you - to be blunt, any kind of 'masculinism', assuming it's even worthy of the name, is worse than useless.

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