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ORIGINAL: tade
And just so this will be linked to in the years that follow...
Fisting, music, crop, flogger, singletail, needle, water, switch, top, bottom, bear, worship, scold, punish and Fred...

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My Karma Account is huge, but I just can't seem to make a withdrawal!!

http://cinful.wordpress.com

(in reply to tade)

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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I will not take back my point... People who feel the need to voice their opinion on every thread that is a frequent subject on this site, THIS DOES NOT MEAN POSTING LINKS FOR HELPFUL PURPOSES, and feel obligated or frustrated because they write something over and over and/or want to refer people back because of something they wrote is arrogant. It becomes about them and not the subject.

Well, I have to say, that is wrong(IMO).  Because there are usually but a couple of people who do the regular reference back to older posts.  And they often contribute to the thread or are known as that is what they do on this site(and you are being specific about this site, which means you are singling out certain individuals, no matter how much you deny that).  And you are calling them arrogant?

 

I don't apologise for thinking you need to go back and have a look at those 'link posts' and justify where your name calling is in anyway correct.

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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

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I have had three people…different times, different occasions, different circumstances… but THREE different people come up to me and say “You’re nice!” …as if I’m not.  By now I’m used to their somewhat quizzical look and the fact that they always repeat it:  “No really, you’re NICE!”  I’m to the place now where I just sigh…and they go on.  “When I first met you, I thought you were a bitch…but you’re not!  You’re nice!” 

I dunno…I think I’m nice…but apparently there’s something about me.  Perhaps it’s that I’m confident?  Perhaps it’s that I’m fairly no-nonsense?  Or that I’m not all that shy?  Perhaps it’s these thin lips?  Anyway, I wonder if it’s because I come from a boisterous family and have three brothers and I’m blunt as hell.  I think that scares people.

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ORIGINAL: tade

I've noticed in the year or so I have been part of this wonderful communtiy that a few of us like to answer questions (often by newer members) by linking to other posts about whatever the topic may be. Personally I find this condesending and rude. Perhaps the poster didn't know about the search feature (can't imagine that, but hey... benefit of the doubt and all) but the posting of  "Link to 19 discussions on this", "Link to 35 discussions on that" runs the risk of making them not posting on another topic, for fear of being made to feel dumb for asking. It's also not very friendly. (Sorry about that last part...trying to techer our son the value of being nice and it wears off on me sometimes).

I know we're all adults, or at least supposed to be,so I'm not as concerned with someone's feelings getting hurt as I am by not getting the exchange of ideas that comes from a posted topic being up on that first page when I log onto the forums.

If it is done for the sake of helping others advance their knowledge by reading what others had written, then more power to you. However most of the time that is far from the feeling I get when I see it done by someone with thousands of posts to someone with only a handfull. Hell I would have thousands of posts under my belt if I answered every forum with a link to any other post that contained the same word, but I only chose to add to the discussions rather than gloat about my ability to use the search funtion...

And just so this will be linked to in the years that follow...
Fisting, music, crop, flogger, singletail, needle, water, switch, top, bottom, bear, worship, scold, punish and Fred...

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linking to other posts about whatever the topic may be. Personally I find this condesending and rude.

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Darkinshadows we are going to have to settle for being mutually offended at each other. I clearly when complaining and using the word arrogant offended you and I certainly will apoligize for my strong and negative language. I am also very offended at you for grossly misscharacterizing my statements. If you would have taken the time to actually read my three previous posts, I clearly do not rip or call arrogant anybody who lists posts in other threads. In fact, I clearly state that for the most part I think that people who do take offense they have a miss conception of the purpose people do it for the most part. I really do not appreciate you taking my statements in that area and saying I ripped people like LA or Proudsub or called them arrogant when I did no such thing.

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ORIGINAL: happypervert

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The whole purpose for starting a topic is to find a fresh answer to your discussion.

LOL! Yeah, those old answers have gone stale and aren't good anymore . . . even though the fresh answers are exactly the same.

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ORIGINAL: tade

I've noticed in the year or so I have been part of this wonderful communtiy that a few of us like to answer questions (often by newer members) by linking to other posts about whatever the topic may be. Personally I find this condesending and rude. Perhaps the poster didn't know about the search feature (can't imagine that, but hey... benefit of the doubt and all) but the posting of  "Link to 19 discussions on this", "Link to 35 discussions on that" runs the risk of making them not posting on another topic, for fear of being made to feel dumb for asking. It's also not very friendly. (Sorry about that last part...trying to techer our son the value of being nice and it wears off on me sometimes).

I know we're all adults, or at least supposed to be,so I'm not as concerned with someone's feelings getting hurt as I am by not getting the exchange of ideas that comes from a posted topic being up on that first page when I log onto the forums.

If it is done for the sake of helping others advance their knowledge by reading what others had written, then more power to you. However most of the time that is far from the feeling I get when I see it done by someone with thousands of posts to someone with only a handfull. Hell I would have thousands of posts under my belt if I answered every forum with a link to any other post that contained the same word, but I only chose to add to the discussions rather than gloat about my ability to use the search funtion...

And just so this will be linked to in the years that follow...
Fisting, music, crop, flogger, singletail, needle, water, switch, top, bottom, bear, worship, scold, punish and Fred...

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

excessive and consistent link postings could (under certain circumstances) be accurately considered a link-posting fetish....

Now, I am fairly certain you wouldn't stand in the way of a harmless kink, would you?

Ron

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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I see a few problems with excessive and consistent link posting.


I’ve been given a list of links before. I didn’t bother following any of them because I really don’t care about a conversation that 20 people who are no longer here had 2 years ago. I’m looking for discussion, not just information. If I wanted flat information, I’d go to google rather than collarme. Or I could go to the millions of websites that are just textual information. I’m not on a community forum chat board for the sake of transcripts. I’m here for communication.

Also, if I wanted to read past discussions, I would have used the search feature myself in the first place. I tend to think that most of us in the year 2006, using the internet, have a general idea of how to use search features. The feature is there. Let people use it or not use it as they wish. It’s simply not necessary for someone to be the search feature for thread after thread, after thread.

When I’m wanting discussion and discourse, rather than reading material, it makes sense that I’m going to bring up the topic "here and now". I want to be able to learn and grow, and to do that, I need to have an interactive approach. I need to trade ideas, rebut or point out things, have things rebutted and pointed out to me. I need to be able to have someone say "here’s the error I see in your logic" and then ask them to explain the parts I don’t understand. I need the discussion to be interactive, not just reading material.

I don’t think the people who consistently and excessively post list of links are necessarily ill-intended, but it often comes across that way. It absolutely smacks of arrogance in the way it’s presented sometimes. If one is going to take the time to dig up the older links, I think they should take a few extra seconds to present that information courteously. It's really not much more time or effort to type "Here’s what some other folks had to say on this topic in the past if you’d like to read those opinions as well." than it is to type "31 discussions on this topic". It’s the manner in which it’s presented.

I also think compulsive link posters should wait a bit and actually give the new thread a chance instead of jumping in the first hour or two with a list of links. Why shouldn't a new group of people have a new conversation on an old topic? If the thread is going to be full of discourse and ideas, it will run its course naturally. If everyone is sick of that particular topic and no one wants to respond, or only smart-asses are "rolling eyes at the newbie", then a list of links might be helpful.

Another problem I see with link listing is that it does kill a thread dead in its tracks. I’ve even seen numerous threads where someone will post "I bet someone comes along and kills this thread with a list of links."
That’s precisely why someone can’t just skip over a link post. Because there’s nothing to skip to. It kills the conversation. It comes across as "This question need not be replied to anymore, because we already replied to it." It’s almost like it invalidates the OP. In a way, it takes away the ability to continue a conversation.

I also think that relying on archived written words takes a lot of the ‘human’ aspect out of interaction. It’s almost ridiculous if you think about it in terms of conversation rather than the written word. If we were all sitting around at a coffee shop discoursing and someone walked in and brought up a subject we discussed last year, we wouldn’t pull out a little transcribed notebook for them to refer to. We’d probably have the conversation again and occasionally say things like "When we had this conversation last spring, I mentioned that I didn’t like XYZ." But we wouldn’t say "refer to conversation 1-A of Spring 2004 because we have nothing to offer on this subject."
The whole point of conversation is interaction.

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ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful

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ORIGINAL: tade
And just so this will be linked to in the years that follow...
Fisting, music, crop, flogger, singletail, needle, water, switch, top, bottom, bear, worship, scold, punish and Fred...

Crap!! Here I was doing an innocent search for Fred, and landed up in this thread.

::wanders off grumbling::

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix
. I’m looking for discussion, not just information. If I wanted flat information, I’d go to google rather than collarme.