Anaxagoras
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras For once I have to agree with the Fargster. It is a disgusting story where rigid morality triumphs over any sense of humanity. However, even according to their own morality the decision doesn't seem to have been a given since the operation was a life saving one, and an extant human being also has a right to life just as the fetus does. The criminal actions of one (and a cardinal sin in the eyes of the faith) should not automatically consign a victim of said crime to an agonising death, which is in effect what the church seems to be saying by stating that no one has a right to "eliminate innocent life". Either way innocent life would have been eliminated. At least there was less suffering with the chosen option. since when? It always was the case in the doctrine of the Catholic Church, it is merely the case that some forget or never knew that the right to life is based on the notion of the sanctity of all life, thus those that are pro-life ought to be against the death penalty as well. From the Catechism: quote:
You shall not kill. (54) You have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not kill: and whoever kills shall be liable to judgement.' But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgement. (55) 2258 'Human life is sacred because from its beginning it involves the creative action of God and it remains for ever in a special relationship with the Creator, who is its sole end. God alone is the Lord of life from its beginning until its end: no one can under any circumstance claim for himself the right directly to destroy an innocent human being.' (56) ... 2273 The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation: 'The inalienable rights of the person must be recognized and respected by civil society and the political authority. These human rights depend neither on single individuals nor on parents; nor do they represent a concession made by society and the state; they belong to human nature and are inherent in the person by virtue of the creative act from which the person took his origin. Among such fundamental rights one should mention in this regard every human being's right to life and physical integrity from the moment of conception until death.' do you know what a person is? a person does not exist until after the baby hits the table. now how about you explain what a hu'man is. hint: "the right to carry", is not the same as "the right to bear". that said what is a per'son and what is a hu'man. Quit trying to obfuscate by throwing in nonsense. You asked "since when" does an extant human being also have a right to life. I answered by way of quoting the relevant passages of official church doctrine, which makes it very clear in plain language that life begins at conception and ends upon death.
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