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Arturas -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/30/2012 3:53:32 PM)

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You're wrong.

Churches can and have lost their tax exempt status due to partisan political activity.
http://www.wnd.com/2000/05/4497/

Rev. Wright's recorded sermons never endorse specific candidates or parties. Which is the line that cannot be crossed.


Actually, I am right. Yet again.

Your article indicates a single church is the only church found in violation of the law and only because it funded a newspaper ad; A far cry from preaching from the pulpit. The article does not support your position that Churches cannot preach against gay marrage just because a candidate has a pro-gay marriage position because that church violated the law by taking out a paid advertisment rather than preaching from the pulpit. The article indicates the law forbids the Church from "taking part of any political campaign ".

So, do you feel preaching from the pulpit and mentioning one candidate one week and perhaps even another the next, both perhaps even in a bad light, is "taking part in a political campaign" and therefore against the law?

Additionally, Pastor Wright can discuss specific parties and candidates because there is no line to cross except the one of actively taking part of a campaign.

To give this clarity and bring it home; If you or I wrote something about Obama here that does not mean we are "actively taking part of a compaign" and neither is preaching from the pulpit considered taking active part of a political campaign.

Finally, I've copied your article below from following your link and that link serves as a credit and source for the text.


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Yesterday, a federal appeals court upheld the

Internal Revenue Service’s decision to revoke the tax-exempt status of a church that had paid for newspaper ads against then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton in 1992.

The revocation is the first in the history of the IRS and serves as a warning from the federal judiciary that churches may not fund partisan activity. U.S. law granting tax-exempt status also forbids tax-exempt organizations from involvement in “any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”


P.S. You think about this and reply with a leftist apology, not about America, but about your post being wrong. I however am going to the gym. Being right is only half the battle, you need to look "right" to be an Alpha.




SternSkipper -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/30/2012 10:49:56 PM)

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I however am going to the gym. Being right is only half the battle, you need to look "right" to be an Alpha.


Only in narcissism. The phantom of the opera was an alpha and looked like shit.





GotSteel -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 5:42:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas
The article does not support your position that Churches cannot preach against gay marrage just because a candidate has a pro-gay marriage position...


No one, no one at all took that position.

Let me be really clear, I just looked through the entire thread, no one ever took the position that Churches cannot preach against gay marriage.

I've specifically told you that churches can preach against gay marriage all they want.
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Churches can talk about "traditional family values" (though personally I don't consider bigotry a family value) all they want.






GotSteel -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 5:50:56 AM)

The actual positions in this thread have mostly consisted of:

1. pointing and laughing.

2. asking you for a source.

3. explaining to you that churches can't advocate voting for specific candidates or specific parties:


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
What they can't do without paying taxes like the rest of us for the privilege is talk about how the President is the devil because he's eroding traditional family values and therefor you need to vote for Romney.

Or vice versa.


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

Direct your attention to page 5, if you are portraying somebody knowledgeable about this issue, but decidedly are not.


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Rev. Wright's recorded sermons never endorse specific candidates or parties. Which is the line that cannot be crossed.





Hillwilliam -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 6:49:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas

Being right is only half the battle, you need to look "right" to be an Alpha.

I dunno what you look like but you damn sure don't have the first half.

I also will add that to be an Alpha, you must be honest. You seem to lack that as well.

If you wish to be a pretty, dishonest poseur, then by all means get thyself to the gym.




DomKen -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 7:38:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas

quote:

You're wrong.

Churches can and have lost their tax exempt status due to partisan political activity.
http://www.wnd.com/2000/05/4497/

Rev. Wright's recorded sermons never endorse specific candidates or parties. Which is the line that cannot be crossed.


Actually, I am right. Yet again.

Your article indicates a single church is the only church found in violation of the law and only because it funded a newspaper ad; A far cry from preaching from the pulpit. The article does not support your position that Churches cannot preach against gay marrage just because a candidate has a pro-gay marriage position because that church violated the law by taking out a paid advertisment rather than preaching from the pulpit. The article indicates the law forbids the Church from "taking part of any political campaign ".

I never made such a claim, liar.

I can present others, I simply presented the first time it happened.

Maybe a statement directly from the IRS will make it clear
http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html





SternSkipper -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 9:58:59 AM)

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I never made such a claim, liar.


In the area of truth, he punches above his weight.




mnottertail -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 10:02:26 AM)

Old canvasback, there?   He's a flyweight.




SternSkipper -> RE: Congressional Black Caucus is giving "guildlines" to black Preachers. (5/31/2012 10:32:18 AM)

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Old canvasback, there? He's a flyweight.

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