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Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: how to prove (5/30/2012 8:49:58 PM)

This is what I find a little troublesome.

This has the Smell of a setup job, all over it.
Being given a task to which you can't clearly achieve?
This is a predicament task. It's a setup for failure.

Plus he's making you feel like shit, about not having
proved yourself to him enough.

You're jumping through rings of fire right now to prove yourself to him.
While he's the one which should be proving himself here.

When shit ends, guess who is the one which has been mentally
conditioned to assume all the guilt and blame? (it's you)

I'm going to make the "Bullshit" call on this one.
(smacks hand on desk) "I call Bullshit"

















Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: how to prove (5/30/2012 8:56:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kittenheels43

the truth is, 99% (ok, not an actual statistic, just my experience having lots of friends who've been there done that) of long distance online relationships involve at least 1 partner who is only in it for kicks, with no intention of turning it real-time, and who has deliberately looked for someone who lives far to far away for a real-time meet. oh I am not saying you cannot BOTH fall truly in love over the internet, been there, done that, (by accident, and ended up living together)

As for the 'how to prove it' thing, well seriously, for one thing this suggests he does not think you are already giving you're all for him. It is also emotional blackmail, which ok, Doms do sometimes, but if he truly cares for you why is he torturing you like that? If he decides not to move you will be left blaming yourself and feeling inadequate? Yet you have no way of knowing he ever intends to really move to you!

I mean really, if you are desperate to prove it, take your lappy to a tattoo parlour and get his name tattoo'd on your ass on cam... (hell tattoo's can be laser'd off it goes pear shaped, lmao) but I say buyer beware... you might pay the price, but the goods may never be delivered



kittenheels, I know a girl that went and got a tattoo. 2 weeks later he still ended it. Now she's stuck with it. Why? Because she thought it would prove herself to him. LOL






NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: how to prove (5/31/2012 1:45:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddyLogansgirl
i am looking for some advice on how to prove as a slave to my Dom that i truly want this life with Him. He currently lives like 600 miles away and is thinking of moving to where i am. He is very demanding and strong and he told me to show him in my own physical way to show him on cam i want him and this lifestyle permanently b4 he makes a big move....

ANY SUGGESTIONS?????

According to mapquest.com, there are roughly 450 miles between Reno, NV, and Las Vegas, NV, not 600. You're about 150 miles off.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddyLogansgirl
Daddy Logan is the Dom i am with and who is going to move here my profile is correct and i am not lazy

Wait a minute here. In the first quote, you say you have to prove yourself to him before he will move. The second one here says he's already going to move. Which one is it? And, if he's already moving, it sounds like you've already proven yourself to him sufficiently. If not, then he's a fool for already planning to move.

As for laziness. Yeah, you got it alright. You want all of us to tell you what sort of games to play for your Daddy on cam, so you can let him think you thought them all up yourself. First, why should we? What are we going to get out of it? Second, I doubt that you will give us all credit for doing your work for you. That really IS laziness. Not a really good selling point IMO. If I asked a sub to do something for me and found out he had someone else do all the work....Oh hell no. That would be the end.

Honestly? The whole thing sounds to me like a HNG wanting a free live-sex cam show so he can slap his salami in the basement, then turn off the cam and go back to the wife & kids. Do you know for a fact that he doesn't have a Mrs and some offspring in tow?

Do you know for a fact that he will really EVER move to be with you? Do you know how MANY married cheaters are out there who say they'll move and never do? I do. I've heard that shit multiple times myself before and now I'm no longer naive.

I don't know how MANY times you two have met before but, if you give it all up on cam, why SHOULD he move to live with you? He's getting it all for free on his live feed. lol I guess I'm just jaded by my own past experiences and hate for anyone else to go through the shit I did when I first entered kink as a sub.

When I read this thread, I thought you were a kid or something, but I looked at your profile and you're 38 for crying out loud. Do we really need to tell you these things?

NBMG




LafayetteLady -> RE: how to prove (5/31/2012 3:31:28 AM)

Don't forget that getting clueless, desperate women to cam for you is the most sure fire way to get your rocks off with absolutely no worries about bringing some "gift" home to the wife that she wants even less than a new washing machine for Valentine's day.




DarkSteven -> RE: how to prove (5/31/2012 4:10:27 AM)

DaddyLogansGirl, I realize that you came here with a simple question and it's all expanded into areas you'd rather not go. But I'm getting some really bad vibes here.

1. Your profile shows the two of you as a couple, even living together in Reno. In your mind, you two are a couple. Yet your Dom says you need to prove yourself. Clearly, you two are in different places in the relationship.
2. As you can see, just the term "on cam" sets off a lot of red flags here. One of the common themes is men pretending to be Doms to get women to do dirty things on cam. They're known as Horny Net Geeks, or HNGs.
3. Logan will be making a serious commitment to move. I can see him wanting to see something committing in return. But of all the things I would imagine showing commitment, none of them would be performing on cam.
4. In a D/s relationship, the Dominant leads and the submissive follows. Having a Dom cede some of that power by giving a deliberately vague command is to me a huge red flag, especially when the relationship is new. It might be that he's setting you up for failure, that he's deliberately causing you stress by doing this, or that he's just not a Dom and doesn't want to lead. It's a huge stressor to a sub to be forced to take the lead in something like this.
5. Your profile says you're looking to add a woman. Bad move right now. That should be done only after the two of you have a strong relationship. You obviously have a lot of getting used to each other ahead of you. I once made the mistake of trying to go poly after having been with one woman for only three months (an opportunity presented itself), and it almost destroyed my primary relationship.

My advice is:
1. Slow things down. Clearly, you've been moving too fast.
2. Learn to "speak back" to him, respectfully. Use the "when you do this, it makes me feel like that" approach. Try this: "When you ask me to prove myself on cam to you without explaining how, it bothers me because it feels to me like I am being asked to take the lead. That's not what either of us signed up for. Could you please tell me what would satisfy you?"
3. Change your profile. If you want to keep looking for a third, fine, but make it clear that the time horizon will be something like six months after Logan moves to you.

Good luck.




kalikshama -> RE: how to prove (5/31/2012 4:52:59 AM)

quote:

he's just not a Dom and doesn't want to lead


This has my vote.




OsideGirl -> RE: how to prove (5/31/2012 7:35:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

DaddyLogansGirl, I realize that you came here with a simple question and it's all expanded into areas you'd rather not go. But I'm getting some really bad vibes here.

1. Your profile shows the two of you as a couple, even living together in Reno. In your mind, you two are a couple. Yet your Dom says you need to prove yourself. Clearly, you two are in different places in the relationship.
2. As you can see, just the term "on cam" sets off a lot of red flags here. One of the common themes is men pretending to be Doms to get women to do dirty things on cam. They're known as Horny Net Geeks, or HNGs.
3. Logan will be making a serious commitment to move. I can see him wanting to see something committing in return. But of all the things I would imagine showing commitment, none of them would be performing on cam.
4. In a D/s relationship, the Dominant leads and the submissive follows. Having a Dom cede some of that power by giving a deliberately vague command is to me a huge red flag, especially when the relationship is new. It might be that he's setting you up for failure, that he's deliberately causing you stress by doing this, or that he's just not a Dom and doesn't want to lead. It's a huge stressor to a sub to be forced to take the lead in something like this.
5. Your profile says you're looking to add a woman. Bad move right now. That should be done only after the two of you have a strong relationship. You obviously have a lot of getting used to each other ahead of you. I once made the mistake of trying to go poly after having been with one woman for only three months (an opportunity presented itself), and it almost destroyed my primary relationship.

My advice is:
1. Slow things down. Clearly, you've been moving too fast.
2. Learn to "speak back" to him, respectfully. Use the "when you do this, it makes me feel like that" approach. Try this: "When you ask me to prove myself on cam to you without explaining how, it bothers me because it feels to me like I am being asked to take the lead. That's not what either of us signed up for. Could you please tell me what would satisfy you?"
3. Change your profile. If you want to keep looking for a third, fine, but make it clear that the time horizon will be something like six months after Logan moves to you.

Good luck.


^^^^^ THIS!

Steven nailed it.




Buzzzz -> RE: how to prove (5/31/2012 1:53:16 PM)

As usual, DS has my vote !!




rmschleigh2012 -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 4:58:15 AM)

Please tell me, as I am new to this scenc. Do all sub-girls want a ltr. I want a sub-girl to belong to a group that we have put together to fulfill females fantsies.




kalikshama -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 7:04:11 AM)

This is an interesting topic - please start a new thread for it and flesh out your concept a bit more, for example, will this be like a Make a Wish foundation for sub women?




OsideGirl -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 7:13:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rmschleigh2012

Please tell me, as I am new to this scenc. Do all sub-girls want a ltr. I want a sub-girl to belong to a group that we have put together to fulfill females fantsies.



Translation: We want a girl to gang bang and fulfill our male fantasies.




Kana -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 7:59:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: rmschleigh2012

Please tell me, as I am new to this scenc. Do all sub-girls want a ltr. I want a sub-girl to belong to a group that we have put together to fulfill females fantsies.



Translation: We want a girl to gang bang and fulfill our male fantasies.

But, but, but,...they're only doing it out of a genuine need to be of aid and help all those horny little sluts put out that raging inferno between their legs...kinda like twat firemen...making the act not only kind and decent, but a public service as well.
Hell, watch out-in a few years they'll be forming a a union, getting benefits and working on the county payroll :-)




kalikshama -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 8:08:02 AM)

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Translation: We want a girl to gang bang and fulfill our male fantasies.


Ya, I couldn't come up with anything other than that plus cunnilingus, but am open to the possibility that the failure of imagination could be on my part.




poise -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 8:13:42 AM)

You mean I'll actually get a chance to submit to Royce Gracie? [8D]
Sign me up!




OsideGirl -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 8:18:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: rmschleigh2012

Please tell me, as I am new to this scenc. Do all sub-girls want a ltr. I want a sub-girl to belong to a group that we have put together to fulfill females fantsies.



Translation: We want a girl to gang bang and fulfill our male fantasies.

But, but, but,...they're only doing it out of a genuine need to be of aid and help all those horny little sluts put out that raging inferno between their legs...kinda like twat firemen...making the act not only kind and decent, but a public service as well.
Hell, watch out-in a few years they'll be forming a a union, getting benefits and working on the county payroll :-)


Uh huh. Would you happen to have a bridge I could buy?




kalikshama -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 8:23:46 AM)

quote:

You mean I'll actually get a chance to submit to Royce Gracie?
Sign me up!


Ooo, Ray Liotta from Something Wild!

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Kana -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 8:30:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: rmschleigh2012

Please tell me, as I am new to this scenc. Do all sub-girls want a ltr. I want a sub-girl to belong to a group that we have put together to fulfill females fantsies.



Translation: We want a girl to gang bang and fulfill our male fantasies.

But, but, but,...they're only doing it out of a genuine need to be of aid and help all those horny little sluts put out that raging inferno between their legs...kinda like twat firemen...making the act not only kind and decent, but a public service as well.
Hell, watch out-in a few years they'll be forming a a union, getting benefits and working on the county payroll :-)


Uh huh. Would you happen to have a bridge I could buy?


Now that ya mention it, as a point of of fact I do.
You just hafta get down on your knees right there and I'll show you how to raise the drawbridge [:-]




kalikshama -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 8:40:41 AM)

Actually, my fantasy is a Ray/Snake Plissken sandwich

[image]http://cache.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/189607_S/Escape-From-New-York-Remake-Move-Forward.jpg[/image]




OsideGirl -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 9:22:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: rmschleigh2012

Please tell me, as I am new to this scenc. Do all sub-girls want a ltr. I want a sub-girl to belong to a group that we have put together to fulfill females fantsies.



Translation: We want a girl to gang bang and fulfill our male fantasies.

But, but, but,...they're only doing it out of a genuine need to be of aid and help all those horny little sluts put out that raging inferno between their legs...kinda like twat firemen...making the act not only kind and decent, but a public service as well.
Hell, watch out-in a few years they'll be forming a a union, getting benefits and working on the county payroll :-)


Uh huh. Would you happen to have a bridge I could buy?


Now that ya mention it, as a point of of fact I do.
You just hafta get down on your knees right there and I'll show you how to raise the drawbridge [:-]


Pervert!




Kana -> RE: how to prove (6/1/2012 9:47:21 AM)

You say that like it's a bad thing!




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