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The Obama administration has in turn been secretive about its use of targeted drone strikes, boasted about the program's success, and fended off critics who say the strikes are killing and injuring too many civilians. A New York Times story published Tuesday has the administration's human rights critics buzzing again. A key revelation comes near the end of the article, written by Jo Becker and Scott Shane, under the heading, "'They Must All Be Militants.'"

Obama, Becker and Shane write, was angry when informed that the first drone strike after he took office had killed innocent Pakistanis. But one of the measures the administration embraced to prevent future innocent casualties was to embrace a method of counting combatants that would rope in more innocents.

"It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent," the Times reports. "Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good."

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nope, they weren't the ones that invaded a country on false pretenses.

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Neither was Bush, but don't let the facts get in the way here.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

It's a good job he's a sub, really: just imagine how unbearable he'd be if he was a top and spent all of his time getting pwned like that...
[:D]

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I love the deafening silence from the anti war Obama lovers, who are bending over backwards to defend the Hypocrite in Chief.

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People.

War. is. Dumb.

Throw all the hippie kumbaya peacenik lily-livered unrealistic unpatriotic weakling nonGorean twue-men bullshit at me you like. It's a prelude to negotiation, and at a high cost, enriching not the nation or the victors, but the manufacturers of equipment and supplies. Stop fighting them.

I'm against Obama's war, I was against Bush's war, I was against Reagan and Bush I's extra-curricular excursions. Dumb.

Let the flames begin. But they won't make war any smarter.

Osama bin Laden was fantastically successful. In a day, he got us ruining ourselves to the cost of trillions, ongoing into perpetuity, and rallying around the flag to do it. He made George Bush and benefited the oil industry immeasurably, insuring continued high demand and greater production.

So people die. All in the name of the economy, right?

War. is. Dumb.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nope, they weren't the ones that invaded a country on false pretenses.

Neither was Bush, but don't let the facts get in the way here.

BTW, you do know we have troops on the ground in Yemen, don't you?

How about Uganda?

How about Libya?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

So what were the grounds given for the invasion of Iraq in the first place, if your chimp wasn't lying about that, then.
You can demonstrate that those WMDs were found, and that teh Kenyan's namesake was bankrolling OBL, can you?

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Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors.
Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
Iraq paid bounty to families of suicide bombers.
The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them.
The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
The governments in Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia feared Saddam and wanted him removed from power.
Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I love the deafening silence from the anti war Obama lovers, who are bending over backwards to defend the Hypocrite in Chief.

That's because you're a blind bigot who only sees what he wants to see.

Blew right by this one, didn't ya.

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People.

War. is. Dumb.

Throw all the hippie kumbaya peacenik lily-livered unrealistic unpatriotic weakling nonGorean twue-men bullshit at me you like. It's a prelude to negotiation, and at a high cost, enriching not the nation or the victors, but the manufacturers of equipment and supplies. Stop fighting them.

I'm against Obama's war, I was against Bush's war, I was against Reagan and Bush I's extra-curricular excursions. Dumb.

Let the flames begin. But they won't make war any smarter.

Osama bin Laden was fantastically successful. In a day, he got us ruining ourselves to the cost of trillions, ongoing into perpetuity, and rallying around the flag to do it. He made George Bush and benefited the oil industry immeasurably, insuring continued high demand and greater production.

So people die. All in the name of the economy, right?

War. is. Dumb.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
Yawn, those who are so blind...