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ORIGINAL: dadgreeneyes
I understand the laws of supply and demand, but will someone please explain to me how paying someone more money from a company's profits creates more jobs. If an employer hired you to perform a job at a given rate, isn't that what you should be paid? You agreed to do the work for that price. If another employer is willing to give you more money for doing the same job, shouldn't you go and work for him? Your labor is your commodity to be sold at the price the market place will handle. If he's a good employer who treats his employees fairly, you'll probably stay. If you feel that an employer is treating you unfairly can't you leave, or file a complaint? Be advised of the over regulation and labor laws. Employers, shouldn't they treat their employees fairly? Most definitely! And pay them accordingly. A fair wage for a fair days work.
Which company would you work for?
A) A company in which you make $55,000/year with good benefits, wonderful people that your happy to work with or invite to BBQ's/parties and generally can be happy in life?
B) A company that pays in $105,000/year with good benefits, but you will be stressed most of the time, the coworkers suck cus their attitudes suck, and you are made miserable more often than not?
People do not always look at the pay and benefits as the deciding factors in where they work. I've met many people whom take option B only to arrive in an ER a few years later under 'heart attack' conditions; or suffering from different mental/emotional problems. The smart and wise people generally go for option A and learn how to budget their money. About a decade ago, the book "The Millionaire Next Door" was released. In it the author mentioned a couple that made $55,000/year with benefits. The husband was a firefighter, the wife a nurse. They had two kids. By the time they were in their mid-fifties, they had over one million dollars in assets/investments. Ten years later they are multi-millionaires and very much retired. They will likely live a very long time because they understand what was important in their lives.
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ORIGINAL: dadgreeneyes
As a tradesman, electrician, I've often left one employer to work for another because they were offering a nickel more an hour. What responsibilities does the employee have in all of this? A whole lot, don't depend on the government for regulation. They only screw it up. If you think the goverment won WWII, you're wrong! It was industry, workers and the average Joe on the front lines. Not only do customers drive the market place, but so do employees. And if you think that doing shoddy work or sabataging an employer's product helps your cause, all it does is cause a customer to go elsewhere, and put you and others out of work.
You really have no understanding of goverment spending. WW2 was won due to a number of factors:
A) The Atomtic Bomb, B) The Thompson .45 Cal, C) The B-17 Flying Fortress, D) USS Enterprise, D) The M1 Grand, E) The Jeep, F) P-51 Mustang, G) Nylons, etc, etc, etc.
And how did these things get put into production on such a large scale? It was the goverment that both authorized the sales to industry and created the revenue (through taxes) to make it work. I didnt even list the tip of the iceberg of things that came about thanks to goverment spending! Last I checked, the 1%'ers of that era did not fight at Wake Island, Midway Island, Battle of Gutacanal, Battle of the Bugle, The Normandy Invasion, or taking the Wolf's Den! How many 'upper managers' were onboard the planes that dropped those atomic weapons on Japan? Maybe you can point out how many stock investors dropped the night before D-Day?
It wasn't industry that won the war, but it certainly was one component of the whole that won the war. Every piece (Goverment Spending, Industry, US Citizens, and some luck) contributed to the outcome of that war.
How well did the slave labor the Nazi have help them to win the war? Create bombs, bullets, rifles and planes to prevent the Allies from freeing those that were used like cattle? You better believe the quality control during the war on Germany's side was just barely above 'acceptable' in most industries and 'failing' in the rest. They treated workers badly and lost the war. The lesson learned should be obvious.
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ORIGINAL: dadgreeneyes
Now someone tell me, how does it work to pay someone a wage above their skill level? Even a person who is out of college, educated above their intelligence, if they find a job has a minimum starting salary. If they don't perform they can look at taking a cut in pay!
You make alot of assumptions based on very little wisdom. You assume the only reason people work is to make money. The sole, number one reason. I can tell you from experience that most people do not work at companies for the pay. Some do it for the people that are there. Others for the atmosphere. Some like how it is a 'stepping stone' towards future jobs and careers. While others do it to develop a skill set or trade. It is the job of the manager to understand why an employee works for a company; and if possible grow that person to become better over time (either in the current or different future role).
There are many people that volunteer and work VERY hard to achieve something that money just can not buy: reward for helping others. Have you every actually volunteered to work to help out an organization in your community? Or are you one of those types that asks "Whats in it for me?" before you do one ounce of sweat?
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