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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 2:39:01 PM   
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individual drones using no military personnel killing baddies and much fewer innocents= Bad.


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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 5:25:05 PM   
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carpet bombing good with hundreds of deaths to civvies AND military on both sides =good,
individual drones using no military personnel killing baddies and much fewer innocents= Bad.



It's more like

Bush collateral damage bad, boo hiss, war criminal!
Obama collateral damage, good job! woo hoo! Gobama! Hero of the universe! We no longer give a fuck about you invading countries who had no involvement in the 911 attacks.

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 5:52:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

carpet bombing good with hundreds of deaths to civvies AND military on both sides =good,
individual drones using no military personnel killing baddies and much fewer innocents= Bad.



It's more like

Bush collateral damage bad, boo hiss, war criminal!
Obama collateral damage, good job! woo hoo! Gobama! Hero of the universe! We no longer give a fuck about you invading countries who had no involvement in the 911 attacks.

Bush, Collateral damage measured in hundreds of thousands. Obama, collateral damage measured in dozens.

There's a bit o difference there me laddie.

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 7:47:24 PM   
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Bush, Collateral damage measured in hundreds of thousands. Obama, collateral damage measured in dozens.

There's a bit o difference there me laddie.


One, we don't know how much collateral damage Bush caused, he was credited with Shia on Sunni & vice versa deaths too
Two, you're missing my point, it's quite apparent that people who were vehemently opposed to Bush, are cheering on Obama, which is quite hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 7:54:19 PM   
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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 7:58:30 PM   
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It's more like




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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 8:30:48 PM   
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Bush, Collateral damage measured in hundreds of thousands. Obama, collateral damage measured in dozens.

There's a bit o difference there me laddie.


One, we don't know how much collateral damage Bush caused, he was credited with Shia on Sunni & vice versa deaths too
Two, you're missing my point, it's quite apparent that people who were vehemently opposed to Bush, are cheering on Obama, which is quite hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?

I'd say that as he ordered the Iraq Invasion, What happened there is on his plate. Therefore, we do know.

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 8:51:19 PM   
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I'd say that as he ordered the Iraq Invasion, What happened there is on his plate. Therefore, we do know.


And just about every Dem voted for war, except Obama, yet here we are, still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still operating, we have troops in Yemen, and possibly Syria, we invaded our "ally" Pakistan, and whacked Libyan leader Ghadaffi.

And the anti-war crowd cheers the loudest... Except Music, who is crying crocodile tears.


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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 8:52:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not that I'm against this type of warfare but I see it for what it is…an aggressive arrogant act by a powerful domineering country. That said I don’t give a damn what any other country thinks about it….BUT… Just imagine if Pakistan was blowing up people from the sky in the US…even if they were criminals…I don’t think we would be too happy about it.

It should not be a political contention since Bush started it and Obama is just continuing it.

I believe it is a cowardly way …even if smart… to fight a war. We should have had the guts to clean out the Taliban in Pakistan years ago and retaliated against any country supplying them arms..,.any country. Fight a war to win or don’t fight one at all.

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/5/2012 10:01:40 PM   
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Bush, Collateral damage measured in hundreds of thousands. Obama, collateral damage measured in dozens.

There's a bit o difference there me laddie.


One, we don't know how much collateral damage Bush caused, he was credited with Shia on Sunni & vice versa deaths too
Two, you're missing my point, it's quite apparent that people who were vehemently opposed to Bush, are cheering on Obama, which is quite hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?


Ohhhhhhhh.... I see.... by your criteria the conquests of Afghanistan and Iraq.... don`t count. Rob, you are actually funny sometimes.


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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 2:43:56 AM   
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One, we don't know how much collateral damage Bush caused, he was credited with Shia on Sunni & vice versa deaths too

Would those deaths have occured when and how they did if not for Bush's actions? Yes! Then they're his fault.

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Two, you're missing my point, it's quite apparent that people who were vehemently opposed to Bush, are cheering on Obama, which is quite hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?

Actually I was always in favor of pursuing and destroying al Qaeda, they actually did attack us after all. Bush simply quit what was the only conflict that mattered. By the time Obama took office the Taliban and al Qaeda were back in control of large sections of Afghanistan, many observers thought the Karzai government was sure to fall, the Taliban was attempting to conquer Pakistan as well and OBL was enjoying the good life while plotting yet more ways to kill Americans.

Now al Qaeda's top leadership is decimated. The Taliban is back to hiding in the hills in both Afghanistan and Pakistan and OBL is rotting at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Why shouldn't someone who opposes terrorism be cheering Obama?

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 5:09:46 AM   
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Al queada!

you believe me dontcha?

its a foregone conclusion that any time a bulet from the government kills someone they had to be shhh....

al queada!

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 5:15:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

carpet bombing good with hundreds of deaths to civvies AND military on both sides =good,
individual drones using no military personnel killing baddies and much fewer innocents= Bad.



It's more like

Bush collateral damage bad, boo hiss, war criminal!
Obama collateral damage, good job! woo hoo! Gobama! Hero of the universe! We no longer give a fuck about you invading countries who had no involvement in the 911 attacks.

Now explain again how all of the bitching about the Kenyan doing the same shit as the chimp did from neocons isn't petty spite because the other lad isn't quite as unpopular with the rest of America?

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 6:12:29 AM   
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I'd say that as he ordered the Iraq Invasion, What happened there is on his plate. Therefore, we do know.


And just about every Dem voted for war, except Obama, yet here we are, still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still operating, we have troops in Yemen, and possibly Syria, we invaded our "ally" Pakistan, and whacked Libyan leader Ghadaffi.

And the anti-war crowd cheers the loudest... Except Music, who is crying crocodile tears.


Do you really call pakistan our 'ally' even with quotes? Their recent actions (especially sending the person that led us to OBL to jail) prove the opposite.
As for invading Pakistan, prior to 09, our soldiers routinely crossed the border in pursuit so don't put the blame on Obama.
As for every Dem voting for war except Obama, maybe that was one of the few times he has shown good judgement. Iraq was Dubya's war and it damn near bankrupted us for nothing. To say otherwise is quite disingenious.

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 6:42:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I'd say that as he ordered the Iraq Invasion, What happened there is on his plate. Therefore, we do know.


And just about every Dem voted for war, except Obama, yet here we are, still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still operating, we have troops in Yemen, and possibly Syria, we invaded our "ally" Pakistan, and whacked Libyan leader Ghadaffi.

And the anti-war crowd cheers the loudest... Except Music, who is crying crocodile tears.


Do you really call pakistan our 'ally' even with quotes? Their recent actions (especially sending the person that led us to OBL to jail) prove the opposite.
As for invading Pakistan, prior to 09, our soldiers routinely crossed the border in pursuit so don't put the blame on Obama.
As for every Dem voting for war except Obama, maybe that was one of the few times he has shown good judgement. Iraq was Dubya's war and it damn near bankrupted us for nothing. To say otherwise is quite disingenious.


According to our Secretary of State they are, and if it's good enough for Hil...

So you don't think 100 kilometers is any different than crossing an unmarked border? So how far does an armed force have to penetrate before it becomes an invasion?

If Obama was so smart, why did he involve us in Libya, Yemen, and possibly Syria?Wasn't his promise to get us OUT of the Middle East?

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 6:46:57 AM   
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Now explain again how all of the bitching about the Kenyan doing the same shit as the chimp did from neocons isn't petty spite because the other lad isn't quite as unpopular with the rest of America?


One, I was critical of Bush, and praised Obama for the type of war he's fighting.
Two, I love pointing out progressive hypocrisy... Thanks for playing.
Three, If Bush is "the chimp" does that make Obama "the chimp jr"?

After all, in your own words, he's doing the "same shit"... Are you calling our black president a chimp Lucy?

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 6:48:31 AM   
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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 6:48:47 AM   
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Except Music, who is crying crocodile tears.


Fuck you.

Another waste of time. We are done.





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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 9:24:24 AM   
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excuse me?



My apologies, that should have been directed at Moonhead. I'm sorry.

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RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? - 6/6/2012 9:29:09 AM   
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