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ORIGINAL: Arturas

Hi Canadian. Nice trolling.

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ORIGINAL: Fellow

Obama pushing such thing shows where his focus is: making doing business as difficult as possible in the US.  

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And it is difficult to work with but less so because it is simplier to show women cannot work at the same level of output in many manual labor positions such as on an assembly line or a contruction job

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
I was surprised to learn that the wage gap is lowest in the Construction industry.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

The Senate failed to pass the "PAYCHECK FAIRNESS ACT" also known as the "FAIR PAY ACT" and other assorted clever names. It proposes to close perceived loopholes in the existing laws, loopholes that provide the employer defenses in paying for different skillsets and other non-gender criterion. It's purpose is to buy important votes from women and prove the GOP is at war against women. This is because these recent bills are not supposed to pass. Instead they are supposed to force the GOP to vote against them and in doing so make the Dems look good and the GOP bad.

Each bill cannot pass (the Dems hope) because they all contain some show stopper bomb, included on purpose, because even the Dems would not really let this latest bill pass if they had the choice because it would hurt businesses by strapping them with unworkable requirements that will at the best cost employers more to pay women what men make even though the women cannot produce the same in many manual labor positions and also must take off for maturnity care and other lifestyle requirements and so are more costly to hire in those manual labor occupations that depend on a steady work history. It also requires the employer to justify in writing why it paid woman "A" less than man 'A' doing the same job.

Equal pay for equal work. This is the law already. And it is difficult to work with but less so because it is simplier to show women cannot work at the same level of output in many manual labor positions such as on an assembly line or a contruction job or even a job stocking or warehousing unless the job is aided by equalizing automations such as in a forklift operator, and one will find women equally paid already in those positions unless they take more time off for motherhood and lose senority opportunities to men and other female lifestyle activities which more and more women need to do since going to two working parent households or single parent households, both of which are prevalent today.

So, if the employer must pay equally for unequal work or go through all the legal entanglements needed to justify the lower pay, which would result in a high cost either way, then they must move overseas where such laws do not exist or they must instead go to an less female workforce in these types of jobs by legally setting strength and endurance standards for this type of work, standards that few women can meet, thereby losing more jobs for women to men. The dnd result is and old story with these Dem bills, more regulation costs, more jobs moving overseas while all the while the Dems play it like they actually did something "for the women".

Of course it was not meant to pass and trigger and cause all these very bad results, so the Senate Dems are depending on the GOP to do the right thing and vote it down It's a game that most thinking voters recognized for what it is and will give the GOP credit for doing what it must do to protect jobs and encourage industry to return to the U.S. and not more to leave, and they will vote accordingly today in Wisconsin and in November.

Well wishes.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Canadian?  Like your original rushfelching post #1, contains not a fact.   If I am trolling, what do you call it when someone writes (and mostly plagarized) asswipe that shames even blithering idiots for its lack of facts and reason, and thinks themself a clever boy?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Are you aware that the Senate has a Democratic majority?

Kind of a problem for your theory.

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Bottom line is, is that there needs to be Rules and Regulations in place. (like the 10 commandments) to keep shit in check. Else, you damn well know somebody is going to be taking advantage in screwing somebody else over. The difference between how hard they will be screwing other people over.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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And it is difficult to work with but less so because it is simplier to show women cannot work at the same level of output in many manual labor positions such as on an assembly line or a contruction job

I worked for around 10 years in traditionally male fields - Munitions System Specialist in the USAF and machine operator. I never found my output to be less, in fact, the guy on second shift kept asking me to slow down cuz I was making him look bad. We did have those newfangled forklifts and pallet jacks.

I was surprised to learn that the wage gap is lowest in the Construction industry.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

Hi Canadian. Nice trolling.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

The Senate failed to pass the "PAYCHECK FAIRNESS ACT" also known as the "FAIR PAY ACT" and other assorted clever names. It proposes to close perceived loopholes in the existing laws, loopholes that provide the employer defenses in paying for different skillsets and other non-gender criterion. It's purpose is to buy important votes from women and prove the GOP is at war against women. This is because these recent bills are not supposed to pass. Instead they are supposed to force the GOP to vote against them and in doing so make the Dems look good and the GOP bad.

Each bill cannot pass (the Dems hope) because they all contain some show stopper bomb, included on purpose, because even the Dems would not really let this latest bill pass if they had the choice because it would hurt businesses by strapping them with unworkable requirements that will at the best cost employers more to pay women what men make even though the women cannot produce the same in many manual labor positions and also must take off for maturnity care and other lifestyle requirements and so are more costly to hire in those manual labor occupations that depend on a steady work history. It also requires the employer to justify in writing why it paid woman "A" less than man 'A' doing the same job.

Equal pay for equal work. This is the law already. And it is difficult to work with but less so because it is simplier to show women cannot work at the same level of output in many manual labor positions such as on an assembly line or a contruction job or even a job stocking or warehousing unless the job is aided by equalizing automations such as in a forklift operator, and one will find women equally paid already in those positions unless they take more time off for motherhood and lose senority opportunities to men and other female lifestyle activities which more and more women need to do since going to two working parent households or single parent households, both of which are prevalent today.

So, if the employer must pay equally for unequal work or go through all the legal entanglements needed to justify the lower pay, which would result in a high cost either way, then they must move overseas where such laws do not exist or they must instead go to an less female workforce in these types of jobs by legally setting strength and endurance standards for this type of work, standards that few women can meet, thereby losing more jobs for women to men. The dnd result is and old story with these Dem bills, more regulation costs, more jobs moving overseas while all the while the Dems play it like they actually did something "for the women".

Of course it was not meant to pass and trigger and cause all these very bad results, so the Senate Dems are depending on the GOP to do the right thing and vote it down It's a game that most thinking voters recognized for what it is and will give the GOP credit for doing what it must do to protect jobs and encourage industry to return to the U.S. and not more to leave, and they will vote accordingly today in Wisconsin and in November.

Well wishes.