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amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:34:37 PM)

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Yes--I agree with your comment. But, having no further contact whatsoever -- and if that was a pattern with multiple people -- especially over a relatively short period of time -- would be useful info to have---right?


To me? No not in all honesty...

I've had it happen, I just consider them not interested and move on..




DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:34:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DrkOne

oh I'm sure I'm on several lists *chuckles .. Not that I really give a shit



LOL....you and me both...lol




MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:36:29 PM)

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I might express initial interest in someone but I certainly don't make commitments to do certain things unless I am genuinely interested in them. And I certainly do not use extravagant language to describe my feelings for someone after 2-3 hours of chatting if I am not genuinely interested!


The fact that you say you do not do this should tip you off to what kind of people do.

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my proposal is NOT the "impact" on the fakes and liars. It is to give pertinent information to the GENUINE people here


As for this ^ you said it might help to drop the number of fakes, even if only by a small number, so you are hoping that it will impact them in some way.

And....about that guy that doesn't show up. That says he will many times with many people but then doesn't. Maybe he is shy, or scared. We get it you are out and loud and proud to the point that you have no issues with sharing your illness with others but maybe, hopefully, there are some that would really like to and aren't because they don't want to hurt others. So all they have is their little net dreams and play sessions via emails. Yeah, it sucks for those of us that are looking for something real but it isn't like they are actually hurting you.




pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:36:42 PM)

This conversation has often missed the points I have tried to make. So I want to re-post a portion of my first message (italics below) -- because this is the proper context for any replies.

The point remains how to make it possible to avoid people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not.

I would still like to hear other suggestions regarding that.





stef -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:37:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

But thanks for your input--even if fictional.

It's beginning to look like everyone's input is fictional but yours. What an incredible burden it must be for you to be the one person on this site who knows how things should be run.




amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:39:06 PM)


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The point remains how to make it possible to avoid people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not.


It is not

Same as in a bar a guy might tell you he wants you forever when he really wants a one night stand..

It happens




stef -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:39:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

The point remains how to make it possible to avoid people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not.

It's not possible. The only way to avoid these people is to avoid people entirely.

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I would still like to hear other suggestions regarding that.

Would you like a pony too?




MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:40:21 PM)

Is that all you really want to know? I can help with that question.

Get off your damn computer. Go to a munch, or out in public at all, an meet real people face to face.

Happy to have been of help, have a nice day.





ModTwentyOne -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:41:02 PM)

FR - C'mon people, trim your quotes, I know you all know how!




amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:41:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne

FR - C'mon people, trim your quotes, I know you all know how!



Sorrryyyy 21... do i deserve a spanking now?

grins and wiggles eyebrows




pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:42:18 PM)

Of course, Miss Immortal, we all have our sensors on to recognize insincere people. But that determination is not always something that happens within the first few minutes. It can take literally hours or days -- depending upon how skillful the fake/liar is at his/her art.

And, yes, it is likely that a certain number of fakes/liars (i.e. the ones who are just playing and do not want any sort of recognition) -- might leave the site. So, in that sense, there could be some impact but that is NOT the primary reason for my suggestion.

The primary reason continues to be to provide advance cautionary warnings to the people here who GENUINELY are into BDSM and Master/slave and Dom/sub relationships --- and I emphasize the word relationships. Brief one-time encounters can also be fun but I suspect many people on this site (and comparable ones) would like to find a soul-mate who enjoys the same type of lifestyle.


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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

quote:

I might express initial interest in someone but I certainly don't make commitments to do certain things unless I am genuinely interested in them. And I certainly do not use extravagant language to describe my feelings for someone after 2-3 hours of chatting if I am not genuinely interested!


The fact that you say you do not do this should tip you off to what kind of people do.

quote:

my proposal is NOT the "impact" on the fakes and liars. It is to give pertinent information to the GENUINE people here


As for this ^ you said it might help to drop the number of fakes, even if only by a small number, so you are hoping that it will impact them in some way.

And....about that guy that doesn't show up. That says he will many times with many people but then doesn't. Maybe he is shy, or scared. We get it you are out and loud and proud to the point that you have no issues with sharing your illness with others but maybe, hopefully, there are some that would really like to and aren't because they don't want to hurt others. So all they have is their little net dreams and play sessions via emails. Yeah, it sucks for those of us that looking for something real but it isn't like they are actually hurting you.





DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:43:37 PM)

Sorry, actually every time I try to trim it to the one I am really responding to I mess it up...lol




LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:43:56 PM)

First, I'm curious about these 100 contacts/emails a week that you are getting.  I think you are the first guy in My five years of being here that has actually come on the forums and made that claim.  Since you're all up in arms about dishonest people, I'd like more info on that.

Second, not a soul on this site ever said it was a requirement to be into D/s dynamics to be here.  I can promise you that I don't want a sub right now, but I'm not shutting My account off just because I'm at that period in My life.  Six months from now when things are different, that might change, but in the meantime, who in the fuck are you to tell Me that I shouldn't be here?




Yachtie -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:44:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

This conversation has often missed the points I have tried to make. So I want to re-post a portion of my first message (italics below) -- because this is the proper context for any replies.

The point remains how to make it possible to avoid people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not.

I would still like to hear other suggestions regarding that.





Lets rephrase at 180 about. How to be around only those having genuine ...

Ok. Easy. Go to jail. Bubba in Cell Block C awaits.





pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:46:49 PM)

Mean-spirited comments are not really helpful. I posted this message because I genuinely wanted to begin a discussion.

Obviously, if I wanted to reply to you in equally sarcastic and mean-spirited terms, I could ask you why you are on this website right now -- investing so much time and energy in this discussion??

It is Saturday, after all. Why aren't you out-and-about and meeting "real people face to face"?

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

Is that all you really want to know? I can help with that question.

Get off your damn computer. Go to a munch, or out in public at all, an meet real people face to face.

Happy to have been of help, have a nice day.







stef -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:47:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

First, I'm curious about these 100 contacts/emails a week that you are getting.

He said "if I receive 100 contacts per week." I don't think he was actually saying he did. I mean, come on.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:49:07 PM)

Jesus Fucking Louise !!

If you are this hard headed, obtuse, and egocentric in your conversations, no wonder people don't want to continue conversing with you.

Get this straight OP: The problem is YOU.

Yeah, that's just my opinion and all that crap.

(Sorry 21, he *made* me do it !!)





pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:49:43 PM)

OK--fine...let's use your formulation. Any ideas you care to share? How do you determine who is genuine and worth your time?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

This conversation has often missed the points I have tried to make. So I want to re-post a portion of my first message (italics below) -- because this is the proper context for any replies.

The point remains how to make it possible to avoid people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not.

I would still like to hear other suggestions regarding that.





Lets rephrase at 180 about. How to be around only those having genuine ...

Ok. Easy. Go to jail. Bubba in Cell Block C awaits.







MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:50:01 PM)

If your "sensors" are not on every time you log onto the net then you are doing it wrong...period. Go play in traffic blindfolded and see how far that gets you if you don't understand what I am saying.

So you now admit you did want to have an impact on them....good job admitting you have a problem is half the solution.

Sadly it is not up to me, you, or cousin fred to decide what people are or are not looking for when they get on sites like this. And though you suspect that most people are looking for real realationships I would be willing to bet there are many women here that would say most men are not infact looking for them. More than a few men would be likely to admit it too if we could get them to waste their time coming here and give us their two cents.




LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 12:50:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef
He said "if I receive 100 contacts per week." I don't think he was actually saying he did. I mean, come on.

True.  I see your point.




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