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chatterbox24 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 5:57:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

nope, no question, just more of the usual onetwuewayism.


Yup, with no experience to back it up.



Does having tons of experience make it better, it obviously doesnt make you look any better?

Nope it was a thought, and some good enjoyable posts followed, not all but some.



MistressDarkArt -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:09:16 PM)

chatter, let me make this simple and succinct for you:

D-type has wants and needs.
s-type has wants and needs.

Connection happens where wants and needs overlap.

The end.



Aileen1968 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:13:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Okay Im sure there will be alot of controversial posts to this but Im going to post this anyway. Cause Im that type of gal. lol.


This is my take on this. Unless a master is of the upmost caliber without love Mastering is just a way of getting what You want. I am talking in a relationship sense, not just play.

Very few people will take someone on they dont love without a huge payback for them. Its a huge responiblity for someone who has good intentions.

I see Mastering without love in most circumstances as this. You have a love sick slave doing anything to plz a man, and so all this obeying comes in to PROVE how good of a slave you are. If the Master doesnt love you well your really just an alternative and being used in all kinds of way to make the Masters life better either by financial ways, domestic duites, or an easy fuck in some circumstances. IT becomes a game of just how far this slave will go, almost laughable really at the slaves expense. Asking them to do things that can ruin their life in many instances, JUST TO SEE, ya know cause it really doesnt effect them and they want to see just how stupid the slave is. Cause said slave is truly just an alternative to a real meaningful relationship.
On the flip side, A Master with love guides a slave in all the right directions and does anything in his power to enrich her life, and he wants to give back because she is so appreciated and loved.



A lot of people are in relationships where there is no love involved and they have a lot of fun together.
A lot of people are in relationships where there is love and it is drama and unhappiness.
Love or lack of it does not make one work and one not work.
It all depends on the two people involved and what their needs and desires are for the relationship.
If they are both on the same page, then it works whether there is love or not.
Basic life lesson...



OsideGirl -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:25:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

nope, no question, just more of the usual onetwuewayism.


Yup, with no experience to back it up.



Does having tons of experience make it better, it obviously doesnt make you look any better?



And as usual you sink down to junior high school calling people names and making comments about how other people look.





Karmastic -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:31:31 PM)

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lmfao - i think she meant it figuratively



OsideGirl -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:37:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

fr-

lmfao - i think she meant it figuratively


Nope she's done it over and over where she's called people names and told them they were fat/ugly/old etc.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:40:58 PM)

Well, oddly enough, I was looking in the mirror the other day and it occurred to me...."Lookie.....you are looking unbelievably FINE!!!!!" and I asked myself ("self" I said....) "what could it possibly be, causing such a thing?"

It came to me: Experience.



Karmastic -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:44:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

fr-

lmfao - i think she meant it figuratively


Nope she's done it over and over where she's called people names and told them they were fat/ugly/old etc.


lol, well at least, as written, it implied you don't look good, figuratively. now, it's pretty clever to also mean it literally, and you took it that way, so i won't argue (although i think you "look" just fine in the literal sense).



TNDommeK -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:45:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonlightmaddnes


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: FemalecumLover


Why everyone has to be offensive when someone is proposing an opinion/an Idea

if we are the kinksters who are outcasts cant tolerate each others opinions
how can we expect the society to accept us !

V


Because we have previous experiences with this particular poster. Feel free to look up her first two threads.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4007074/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4007074

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4038446/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4038446



Either a troll or a freaking train wreck... OY


Or a trainwrecked troll! Seriously, she asks for it, so when she does post something normal, it's hard for people to be courteous.



kitkat105 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/11/2012 6:55:08 PM)

For me personally, there needs to be love, but only because I am a hopeless romantic so basically love is just a part of the intimacy in our dynamic. With that said though, I can certainly appreciate & respect the many fulfilling BDSM relationships that do not involve love. Everything in this world is not black & white.

I could certainly see myself as I become more confidant in my own skin entertaining the idea of bottoming for someone experienced, knowledgeable & respectful outside of my dynamic if the opportunity arose. But certainly not yet and there would have to be serious discussion between Him & I before it did.



chatterbox24 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 4:59:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

fr-

lmfao - i think she meant it figuratively


Nope she's done it over and over where she's called people names and told them they were fat/ugly/old etc.



Im not sure who is being more immature here. I posted 10 times yesterday on different threads and after each and everyone of them Osidegirl you were behind each and every one of them not commenting on the thread but to directly insult me everytime or posting my threads from months ago. lol how mature is that? You complain about the very thing you are doing.
And TkDommek you werent even involved in those past threads so what are you butt hurt about? Actually Osidegirl is the one who is asking for it in the present. I dont live n the past.
My comment was figurative, you are quite the stalker. Does that make you look good? Whether they like me or not I dont see anyone else doing this on a regular basiis. If I was worried about being liked and I was truly a troll dont you think Id change my name??







OsideGirl -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 7:28:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

fr-

lmfao - i think she meant it figuratively


Nope she's done it over and over where she's called people names and told them they were fat/ugly/old etc.



Im not sure who is being more immature here. I posted 10 times yesterday on different threads and after each and everyone of them Osidegirl you were behind each and every one of them not commenting on the thread but to directly insult me everytime or posting my threads from months ago. lol how mature is that? You complain about the very thing you are doing.
No actually I didn't, but it's not surprising that you would try to play that card.

And your threads from months ago are the key to what you are on these forums. You're someone that craps all over the place and then doesn't have the sense or good graces to be accountable for it. You're someone that asks for advice and then insults everyone that gave you advice. You somehow think that all that will go away just because you want to sweep it under the rug and then play the victim because people won't let you.






Kana -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 7:47:23 AM)

To quote Tina, "What's love got to do with it?"

It can be about sex. It can be about sharing. It can be purely physical. Fuck, people who hate and abhor each other get married everyday. Why can't they beat the shit out of each other BDSM style if they want?

The thing I found interesting is that the OP assumes that the dominant will do things that tear her down and "potentially ruin her life."

Really?
As in....really?



Iamsemisweet -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 7:50:03 AM)

You really need to ask yourself why you keep getting involved with psychopaths.
quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Okay Im sure there will be alot of controversial posts to this but Im going to post this anyway. Cause Im that type of gal. lol.


This is my take on this. Unless a master is of the upmost caliber without love Mastering is just a way of getting what You want. I am talking in a relationship sense, not just play.

Very few people will take someone on they dont love without a huge payback for them. Its a huge responiblity for someone who has good intentions.

I see Mastering without love in most circumstances as this. You have a love sick slave doing anything to plz a man, and so all this obeying comes in to PROVE how good of a slave you are. If the Master doesnt love you well your really just an alternative and being used in all kinds of way to make the Masters life better either by financial ways, domestic duites, or an easy fuck in some circumstances. IT becomes a game of just how far this slave will go, almost laughable really at the slaves expense. Asking them to do things that can ruin their life in many instances, JUST TO SEE, ya know cause it really doesnt effect them and they want to see just how stupid the slave is. Cause said slave is truly just an alternative to a real meaningful relationship.
On the flip side, A Master with love guides a slave in all the right directions and does anything in his power to enrich her life, and he wants to give back because she is so appreciated and loved.





tazzygirl -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 7:54:34 AM)

I can fuck without love.

I can't submit without trust.

I think the OP is looking at the wrong thing... but that's just me.



chatterbox24 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 7:55:54 AM)

If I had knowledge of all your past mistakes or past at all, would you appreciate me following you everywhere. Lets say You were having a good day and here I come to remind you with a piece of paper, hey look read this, feeling good? Dont feel good cause Im here to remind you that you are flawed darling. I am here to remind you!!!

Think about that.

If You get off on that continue on, it truly makes no difference. Most people on here dont give a rats ass who I am. Im just a computer screen, just as they are to me. As Ive said before. Im not looking for a relationship, Im not looking for friends, so I am not a risk to anyone in the least.



chatterbox24 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 8:23:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

To quote Tina, "What's love got to do with it?"

It can be about sex. It can be about sharing. It can be purely physical. Fuck, people who hate and abhor each other get married everyday. Why can't they beat the shit out of each other BDSM style if they want?

The thing I found interesting is that the OP assumes that the dominant will do things that tear her down and "potentially ruin her life."

Really?
As in....really?



REALLY YAH REALLY! lol. Oh come on there are those doms like that. People write about it, talk about it.

Gotta love TIna. You know what I can see where people would keep love out of it and how it could be better that way. I can see the flip side of things.
One has to be in complete control to separate things, and people have all kinds of different desires or needs.



LadyPact -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 8:28:25 AM)

This thread is starting to remind Me of the ones that are started up by guys who are looking to be in a relationship with a Dominant woman, get duped and send someone money that they have "met" on the internet, and then come back to start threads about how to avoid online scams.  



Kana -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 8:28:59 AM)

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REALLY YAH REALLY! lol. Oh come on there are those doms like that. People write about it, talk about it.


Of course there are...but there are also lots of terrific ones (You know, just like there are lunatic slaves and keepers). If a person consistently keeps ending up with the former rather than the latter, I'd suggest that they look at the common denominator in all the relationships (Hint-it's themselves) and wonder of their picker was broken.

Get in one abusive relationship-shame on the abuser.
Get in two, might be a coincidence or real bad luck.
Get in three, its time to look in the mirror and ask some hard questions of oneself.



chatterbox24 -> RE: Domming. Mastering without love (6/12/2012 8:39:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

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REALLY YAH REALLY! lol. Oh come on there are those doms like that. People write about it, talk about it.


Of course there are...but there are also lots of terrific ones (You know, just like there are lunatic slaves and keepers). If a person consistently keeps ending up with the former rather than the latter, I'd suggest that they look at the common denominator in all the relationships (Hint-it's themselves) and wonder of their picker was broken.

Get in one abusive relationship-shame on the abuser.
Get in two, might be a coincidence or real bad luck.
Get in three, its time to look in the mirror and ask some hard questions of oneself.


I hear about the good ones too, and Im sincerely happy for the fortunate.
ANd I do agree, you ask for it you get it, even if its subconsciously and one is unaware of what they were attracting.



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