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Do you consider a poster's history when reading/replying?


No, I read each post as if it was the person's first.
  6% (3)
Maybe, if I remember the person, it might matter.
  32% (16)
If I remember the person, of course it matters.
  52% (26)
Oh hell, if I don't remember the person, I do a search of past posts!
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None of it matters at all. I am only here for entertainment.
  6% (3)


Total Votes : 50


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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 12:24:43 PM   
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I think that's it for me....I have an extremely short memory. Most days I can barely remember what I did a few minutes ago let alone someone who was online a long time ago.


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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 12:25:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I think that's it for me....I have an extremely short memory. Most days I can barely remember what I did a few minutes ago let alone someone who was online a long time ago.



I am in that phase of life where I forgot why I went into the next room, but when it comes to people and data I have the memory of a London cabbie. It's served me well.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 12:27:31 PM   
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I wish I could do that. I have a church meeting tonight with a bunch of girls that I met twice now and I still for the life of me do not know their names...not a single one's.

Master will be talking about people on here from long ago and most of the time I am clueless. I just don't remember.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 12:46:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
when it comes to people and data I have the memory of a London cabbie. It's served me well.


Please may I steal that for my signature it's brilliant!

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when it comes to people and data I have the memory of a London cabbie. It's served me well.
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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 12:51:23 PM   
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No .. I consider how seriously and down to earth the profile is written.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 12:59:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Deliena


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
when it comes to people and data I have the memory of a London cabbie. It's served me well.


Please may I steal that for my signature it's brilliant!


You betcha!



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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 2:32:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrPBK

No .. I consider how seriously and down to earth the profile is written.

MstrPBK
St. Paul, MN USA



Considering that you don't have to have a viewable profile to post.......that doesn't make much sense.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 4:57:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrPBK

No .. I consider how seriously and down to earth the profile is written.

MstrPBK
St. Paul, MN USA



Considering that you don't have to have a viewable profile to post.......that doesn't make much sense.

lmfao! damn you're good!

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 8:51:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: RemoteUser

Each to their own, but I have no trouble separating one post from another. People can change in the course of a sentence:

We need you to sign the form to pull the plug.
Will you marry me?
Congratulations, it's a girl.

You get the idea.

I could judge people on their past, sure, but people are not solely defined by their past, otherwise we would be stuck in static.

If you think of the post and not the writer, you build on ideas instead of people. Which would you prefer?? I would rather build on ideas that can be shared, and let the individuals build themselves. Their foibles are not my concern.


I didn't get it. Just saying.

If someone writes a post with a gross generalization and I point out it is a generalization and not a universal truth then get back, "You're just a dumb cunt," (has absolutely happened here.. twice as I recall - from two (allegedly) different trolls. I am not going to be prone to interact with them again especially if I see their 'habit' is to call everyone who disagrees with them a dumb cunt just because they are a woman or disagree with some remark they flip out of their fingertips.

If they come back a few months later, I'm not going to be forgetting their prior history and allow them a fresh opportunity for verbal assault. I'm open-minded but not so open-minded that my brains fall out.

I think mature adults realize there are consequences for their actions and that you can't 'fix' everything you've taken the pains to break. There are some amazing people here.. they get my attention, their words get read because they have proven they are worth my time to read them. I'm not into trolls and I'm not a great fan of drama llamas. I have not found many instances where indulging either one of those has impacted me in any sort of profound manner. So, one or two chances is more than enough before I move on and find someone who I consider quality to spend my online time reading. Trolls, creepers and the like don't fall into that category.

Often I will make initial attempts to clarify things.. I'm not perfect either so it's possible I may misconstrue things but my gut is pretty spot on and I see patterns quite well. To ignore shit-storms in the making is to ignore my gut instincts and my personal experience leads me to believe that ignoring my gut is rarely good for me.

No pass from me. I use the block and then the troll, drama llama or creeper disappear from my radar. I have better things to do with my time.


Ah, okay. If someone repeatedly attacks you, personally, and not just your ideas, that is quite a different thing. And I could see that after repeated offenses, one would just not want to deal with them. But I do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially depending on the topic being discusses, as some topics have a tendency to become more emotional, more quickly. But it would take repeated offenses by the same person for me to put them in that category. But I will say this ad hominem attacks, or things like purposely ignoring comments, etc., are not behaviors that have anything to do with ideas. So, to the extent that someone is ONLY able to interact with someone by ad hominem attack that is not really engaging in the ideas anymore.

I'm not a big fan of those who repeatedly attack others personally when what they actually want to do is criticize their ideas. But I'm also not a big fan of people who when their ideas are criticized behave as if they have been personally attacked. I would like to think that people can draw a distinction between the two. I understand being offended at the first. But I don't understand being offended (and holding a grudge) against the second. And in almost every Internet forum I have participated in, no matter what the community is about, or what the topic is about, some people just get offended by others who disagree with their ideas and then start to treat them badly in return. To me, that is equally as offensive as an ad hominem attack.

Engaging in a dialogue about ideas necessarily means some people will disagree. And while nothing condones an ad hominem attack, disagreement about ideas is something that people should expect in a free thinking society.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/13/2012 11:08:33 PM   
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I hardly ever consider a poster's history partly because what people post here isn't that great a guide to their thinking or character.

Everyone who posts here (including me) is giving off clues each time they post which indicate not just who they are as a person, but also how they feel about themselves and others and also what agenda or objective they have in mind when they do post.

Direct communication and interaction with me on a one to one level trumps everything when it comes to forming an opinion about someone.

Posting here? Not so much. I may have an opinion, I may draw a conclusion, but I'm also pretty much aware that when doing so I am guided mainly by my own assumptions about that person, which may or may not be accurate.

The other thing is I pick up on vibes from stuff like facial expressions and what people project through their communication and interactions so I tend to relate to everything here intuitively anyway.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 12:36:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
I will say this ad hominem attacks, or things like purposely ignoring comments, etc., are not behaviors that have anything to do with ideas.

People who ignore comments may be narcissists or sociopaths. Such people lack the wherewithal to comprehend - yeah, to perceive - arguments of reason. They have a blind spot as it were, not in their eye, but in their mind.

quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
But I'm also not a big fan of people who when their ideas are criticized behave as if they have been personally attacked. I would like to think that people can draw a distinction between the two.

Narcissists cannot make that distinction.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 2:36:52 AM   
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I'm way more like Hib in this respect than littlwonder.  I have a very high retention rate for things that I see in print.  Not perfect, but pretty good.  For Me to say, dangit, I can't find this past post/thread, tends to be unusual.  When it does, there are a couple of folks who can generally slip it to Me on the other side.  My retention rate for what people say (in print) goes up if they are a regular, a really, really bad troll, people who have outright meltdowns, or one of My biggest pet peeves, people who give really bad safety info about BDSM.

I'm a firm believer in two constants about these boards.  At one time or another, I will agree with you (by you, I mean the average poster) about some topic or opinion that you have.  Also, at one time or another, I will disagree with you about something else.  There are very few people that I can't get along with or at minimum, be civil.  Those that I can't, I don't hide it well.


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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 2:49:40 PM   
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In terms of posting history I just assume everyone is the same person and that maketh life easier.

No I know everyone by their posts but their posting history isn't a big factor for me in truth.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 5:14:25 PM   
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quote:

I wish I could do that. I have a church meeting tonight with a bunch of girls that I met twice now and I still for the life of me do not know their names...not a single one's.

Oh, that can be awkward! My first year in college, there was a nice woman I'd chat with every Sunday after church. Sometime around April, she peered at me and said, "You don't know my name, do you?" And, to my chagrin, I did not.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 5:30:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

After a recent interaction on another thread I started thinking. I don't understand how, regardless of emotional investment, a person's past posts cannot colour our opinions.

If some people post something that, at first glance, seems out of character, I am going to re-read and try to understand where they are coming from. If I remember a poster, have a feel for who they are, of course that is going to colour my view of anything they write. How could it not?

So I am curious about other's points of view.


I'm just hoping you're wrong LOL

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 6:40:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

I wish I could do that. I have a church meeting tonight with a bunch of girls that I met twice now and I still for the life of me do not know their names...not a single one's.

Oh, that can be awkward! My first year in college, there was a nice woman I'd chat with every Sunday after church. Sometime around April, she peered at me and said, "You don't know my name, do you?" And, to my chagrin, I did not.


It's one of the reasons I really don't like group stuff. It takes me forever to remember people. When we were doing group prayer, twice I had to ask two of the girls what their names were. UGH. It's really awkward when it's in the middle of prayer. lol


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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 6:47:46 PM   
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I belong to a majority!!! That is new.

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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/14/2012 7:15:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Master2811

I belong to a majority!!! That is new.

it must be some clerical error you're another one that got a bad rap.

oh, btw, recently, i most certainly DO now consider a person's posting history when reading/replying; more than before.

i still try to interpret and react to the person's words, and not the person.

regardless, i certainly don't stalk people i dislike around and take every opportunity to shit on their threads with carpet bombing runs. that seems to be a thing for some regulars.

if anything, when i see a post of someone i don't usually agree with or that i don't like or at least respect, i try and find anything that i can appreciate and post positively about in reply. to me, that's like finding a golden nugget. this thread was a great example, and i complimented LaTig on this thread and her post. you saw the result of that. funfuckingtastic exchange :)


edit: ooo ooo ooo Mr. Kotter, one more observation re complimenting the OP. i just noticed in her reply to me, the only thing she thought was not worth quoting was my compliment to her. volumes speak.


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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/15/2012 8:56:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Karmastic


regardless, i certainly don't stalk people i dislike around and take every opportunity to shit on their threads with carpet bombing runs. that seems to be a thing for some regulars.


You're making assumptions about what someone else is thinking and what their motivations are......which you're not qualified to do, because 1) you don't know them in real life, 2) you're not inside their heads, 3) It's not always about you.

It's not like there's 500 categories on this forum, there's a very good chance that everyone is frequently visiting the same threads. So, assuming that there is stalking going on is giving more importance to your ego than what's actually happening.

Here's the thing Karm: You might the best of intentions, but you frequently put your foot in it. You usually own it when you do, but people will tend to react when it happens repeatedly.


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RE: Do you consider a poster's history when reading/rep... - 6/15/2012 9:31:44 AM   
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I think we all consider a poster's history, but more so, their style.

However, I know from my own situation, that things change with people and that truly does affect their replies, at least it did for me.

I have been here a long time and used to be a big participant on the boards. Now, I read a bit, but don't really feel compelled to reply.

Two things happened to change that. One, circumstances in my life changed so I did not feel like posting and two, the boards became less interesting to me.

I still remember what people wrote and I am sure some people remember me. Since I have changed in how I view things based on my changed experiences, I now look at what someone writes for the particular post, rather than the past.

One more thing: although we all make assumptions about people, since all we have to go on are momentary blips of information conveyed in their posts, truly, one never really knows what is going on behind the scenes. So unless you have met or spoken to the person, you can never know who they are or why they replied the way they did.

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