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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 6:43:55 PM   
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Finally....a chance to beat the fuck out of those who stole the 2000 election.....



Oh look... not surprisingly, yet another VIOLENT LIB exposing themselves.  How typically hypocritical.



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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 6:58:06 PM   
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Voter fraud isn’t just a myth. It’s Republican code. Remember, when you hear a Republican talk about voter fraud what they really are trying to eliminate is the “problem” of Democrats, African Americans, and Hispanics voting.


That has to be the most tired refrain in all of American society. Yawn.

I worked with a black lady who frankly was a zero. Not because she was black but just because she happens to be a zero. I can handle working with zeros as long as they stay out of the way and don't touch anything. If the company wants to pay them $70K/year to sit on their ass that's the company's problem, not mine. The trouble with this particular zero is that she likes to touch things. And she fucks them up. Then I or someone else with aptitude have to fix it. I tired of this and complained to management. They spoke to her. To her credit for the first few complaints she resisted playing the race card. Ultimately, she played it when nothing else would work. It energized me. I was ultimately transferred to a much nicer location and both of our problems were solved.

Drop the race card. It's so dog eared that we can see it coming a mile away.


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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 7:31:25 PM   
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So sanity is now openly bigotted.....


Who would have known......




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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 7:54:47 PM   
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Your anecdote does not trump my statistics.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 7:58:12 PM   
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Pam Bondi, Republican

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/were-screwed-florida-ag-pam-bondi-claims-mitt-wants-romneycare-in-every-state-video/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Bondi


Kinda fits....it's exactly what they did in 2000.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 8:29:59 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
Voter fraud isn’t just a myth. It’s Republican code. Remember, when you hear a Republican talk about voter fraud what they really are trying to eliminate is the “problem” of Democrats, African Americans, and Hispanics voting.


That has to be the most tired refrain in all of American society. Yawn.

I worked with a black lady who frankly was a zero. Not because she was black but just because she happens to be a zero. I can handle working with zeros as long as they stay out of the way and don't touch anything. If the company wants to pay them $70K/year to sit on their ass that's the company's problem, not mine. The trouble with this particular zero is that she likes to touch things. And she fucks them up. Then I or someone else with aptitude have to fix it. I tired of this and complained to management. They spoke to her. To her credit for the first few complaints she resisted playing the race card. Ultimately, she played it when nothing else would work. It energized me. I was ultimately transferred to a much nicer location and both of our problems were solved.

Drop the race card. It's so dog eared that we can see it coming a mile away.




Sometimes its not about race... sometimes it is. It doesnt strike you as odd that the majority of that list is Dem/Independent/Hispanic?

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 8:35:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Finally....a chance to beat the fuck out of those who stole the 2000 election.....


Now now, Owner... no talk of violence.. after all.. Republicans dont threaten with violence...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/25/republicans-condemn-viole_n_513211.html#s75978&title=Rep_Perriello_Boehners

Opps... my bad...guess they do.. carry on

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 8:40:58 PM   
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Oh I doubt they`ll be getting clubs out in the court room.......


And we may not prevail but that shouldn`t stop good folks from standing up for their god given rights.


That`s why I said "a chance to". 




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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 10:17:11 PM   
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Want to drive? You have to have a license. Because we don't trust you.
Want to drink? You better have a proof of ID. Because we don't trust you.
Want to smoke? You better have a proof of ID. Because we don't trust you.
Want to travel outside the country? You better have a passport. Because we don't trust you.

Want to vote? The most important thing a person can do? Don't worry, we don't need your ID. "We trust you."

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 10:32:35 PM   
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Want to purge voter roles?



We don`t trust you.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/12/2012 10:41:07 PM   
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Want to drive? You have to have a license. Because we don't trust you.
Want to drink? You better have a proof of ID. Because we don't trust you.
Want to smoke? You better have a proof of ID. Because we don't trust you.
Want to travel outside the country? You better have a passport. Because we don't trust you.

Want to vote? The most important thing a person can do? Don't worry, we don't need your ID. "We trust you."


How many of those are detailed in the Constitution?

Can you show me where it says you have to prove who you are to stay on a voter registration roll?

You are barking up the wrong tree here. I have said I have no issue with voter ID. What I do object too is that people are being pushed off the voter registrations this close to a heated election, and those being pushed off are not of the same party as those who are doing the pushing.

Now, if you can explain to me where that is allowed in the Constitution, I will be more than glad to entertain your argument.

ETA

Of the 10 who were stated in the article from Dade county who asked to be removed or were no longer eligible.. yes... just 10... it would be interesting to see when was the last time they actually voted.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 12:01:55 AM   
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I believe you missed my point.
All of those things require an ID of some type... yet voting requires no such thing. Voting is infinitely more important than driving a car.

In counter argument, I would suggest you point out to me in the constitution where it is required that you have an ID to do anything?

Google "voter fraud" and tell me how many hits you get. The Republican Primaries are an excellent example. Democrat Primaries are no better. Of course, it would be best if people actually got involved in their political arenas from local to federal level.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 2:08:05 AM   
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This does beg the question of why the Voting Rights Act - which requires certain states, including Florida I believe, to get Federal approval before changing their election process is not being applied here. Surely a massive and highly suspicious purge of the voter rolls would count as a 'change'.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 3:42:44 AM   
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You'd think so, wouldn't you?

Here's an interesting thought experiment: imagine that it was a Democrat quango trying to to get as many country club members and military absentee ballots taken off the rolls as they could. Can't you just picture all the pissing and moaning (and blather about the consitution) we'd be getting from the neocon massive in here in such a case?


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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 4:46:23 AM   
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For some reason, inventing excuses to stop non caucasian democrats voting seems more popular in Florida than the rest of the 'States.


You noticed that too huh.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 4:49:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Finally....a chance to beat the fuck out of those who stole the 2000 election.....



Oh look... not surprisingly, yet another VIOLENT LIB exposing themselves.  How typically hypocritical.




English not your strong point then MSLA ? Still, no point you missing a chance to make yourself look stupid is there.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 4:59:18 AM   
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Google "voter fraud" and tell me how many hits you get


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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 5:29:56 AM   
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For some reason, inventing excuses to stop non caucasian democrats voting seems more popular in Florida than the rest of the 'States.


You noticed that too huh.

Bit hard to fucking miss, mate.

(The spectacle of people who had no problem with using the chimp's dad's supreme court appointees to steal a whole election twelve years ago bitching about voter fraud is an amusing one, though...)

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 5:50:44 AM   
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(The spectacle of people who had no problem with using the chimp's dad's supreme court appointees to steal a whole election twelve years ago bitching about voter fraud is an amusing one, though...)

Hey, there is nothing the least bit funny about these people. Ask yourself this: what will they do when all their lies and dirt and fear mongering and now massive vote rigging still winds up with the Dems regaining control of the congress? For my money, we're looking at 'second amendment remedies' starting early in the new year. Urban terrorism? Think about it.

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RE: Florida suing federal government - 6/13/2012 5:56:45 AM   
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I found this on a web page, so it must be true

State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney’s office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person.
2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.
IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.
2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”
2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.
NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."
WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.

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Google "voter fraud" and tell me how many hits you get


http://www.protectingthevote.com/



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