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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/15/2012 3:48:55 PM   
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If the Dems had any kind of a decent plan or record to run on they could put their broken "Blame Bush" record in the trash bin where it rightfully belongs

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What part of "unsustainable" don't Liberals comprehend?


The same part Bush didn't understand--cutting a surplus in good times with no plan for tougher times isn't sustainable. The tax structure was working fine before the tax cuts. Then starting two wars with no funding on top. What part of that is hard for you to comprehend?





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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/15/2012 3:52:22 PM   
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Obamas and the Dems' idea isnt "free" nationalized health care though, like they have in Greece. Their plan is to use the IRS to force individuals to pay their neighbors' health care


Where do you think Greece's health care comes from? The health care fairy?

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/15/2012 3:54:04 PM   
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If the Dems had any kind of a decent plan or record to run on they could put their broken "Blame Bush" record in the trash bin where it rightfully belongs

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What part of "unsustainable" don't Liberals comprehend?


The same part Bush didn't understand--cutting a surplus in good times with no plan for tougher times isn't sustainable. The tax structure was working fine before the tax cuts. Then starting two wars with no funding on top. What part of that is hard for you to comprehend?


I agree they need a better plan. Blame Bush is gonna be around for a long time, though--it's his broken pottery. How to fix it is the problem.

I agree with Maher on this one -- Dems are lame, but the other guys are nuts.

I wish it were otherwise, on both fronts.


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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/16/2012 12:14:44 PM   
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"Derrr... "

LOL

That was a stab at leftists, who seem to think they will get free high-quality health care etc etc etc if only their dear leaders have all power Hitler did

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Where do you think Greece's health care comes from? The health care fairy?



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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/16/2012 12:20:09 PM   
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Something your comedian source for news and information will never teach you in his lectures is that many of the issues he laughingly pins on Bush are directly attributable to Congressional Dems, and to problems that were in the works long before Bush became president

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I agree they need a better plan. Blame Bush is gonna be around for a long time, though--it's his broken pottery. How to fix it is the problem.

I agree with Maher on this one -- Dems are lame, but the other guys are nuts.

I wish it were otherwise, on both fronts.





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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/16/2012 12:55:23 PM   
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All the good numbers were going up and all the bad numbers were going down, when bush sank the economy.

It took more than six years for you neo-cons to destroy the best economy in history and it`s going to take some time to fix it.

In any case.....the GOP broke it.....and you guys own it(the blame).

'08' saw 17 trillion dollars in capital evaporate and President Obama pulled us out and kept us from a depression with less than a trillion dollars.

Folks would be a lot more trusting of Romney(and cons) if they admitted they were wrong and at least partly responcible for the crash.

But that`s not good enough for these arrogant reckless cowards.

They have to pretend it wasn`t bush`s fault...that it was actually President Obama who ruined the economy and now they are here!!!.....to save us.....

No wonder no one trusts you guys.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/16/2012 1:45:40 PM   
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All the good numbers were going up and all the bad numbers were going down, when bush sank the economy.

It took more than six years for you neo-cons to destroy the best economy in history and it`s going to take some time to fix it.

In any case.....the GOP broke it.....and you guys own it(the blame).

'08' saw 17 trillion dollars in capital evaporate and President Obama pulled us out and kept us from a depression with less than a trillion dollars.

Folks would be a lot more trusting of Romney(and cons) if they admitted they were wrong and at least partly responcible for the crash.

But that`s not good enough for these arrogant reckless cowards.

They have to pretend it wasn`t bush`s fault...that it was actually President Obama who ruined the economy and now they are here!!!.....to save us.....

No wonder no one trusts you guys.



Yeah, that's what happened Ugg Republican spending bad... Democrat spending good (insert chest thump here)

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/16/2012 1:49:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, republican spending consisted mostly of defense, and a war in Iraq, paying off corporate interests, and piling interest upon interest.........tell us the good side of that spending.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/16/2012 1:57:49 PM   
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It wasn`t a spending issue.

It was an oversight,responsibility and policing issue.

It was a letting the crooks write the laws issue and a gut the regulatory agencies that keep banks honest issue.

It`d be one thing if there was a record of bush fighting against it.

The record indicates tho, that he facilitated and promoted it.

Hey....bush was the horse you guys ran with and lost with......don`t come cry`n to us because it sucks.


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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 6:52:47 AM   
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Well, republican spending consisted mostly of defense, and a war in Iraq, paying off corporate interests, and piling interest upon interest.........tell us the good side of that spending.

That they cut revenue to make the spending even worse?


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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 8:24:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Isn't this kind of off topic? Obamacare isn't an entitlement, it is regulating an industry. You get that, right?

Back on topic, since when did "fuck'em" become a plan?
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Thats not true, entitlements (generally) are what are killing us.

If Greeces health care system is free why is the Greek government cutting into the bone in that area to save costs

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Greece+Health+system+crumbles+cuts+bite/6784667/story.html



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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 9:41:12 AM   
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Health care shouldn't be insurable except for cosmetic procedures. Refusal to pay a homeowners insurance claims doesn't kill anyone like refusal to pay for health care.



One doesn't need health insurance to pay for health care, there is a thing called the dollar, in which health care providers will tale in lieu of service.

Do us all a favor and stop equating insurance with health care.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 9:49:47 AM   
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One doesn't need health insurance to pay for health care, there is a thing called the dollar, in which health care providers will tale in lieu of service.

Do us all a favor and stop equating insurance with health care.


Lots and lots and lots of dollars. Dollars people don't have.

But it they're too lazy to become millionaires, fuck 'em.

Come on. Practically, they're the same thing today.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 9:59:20 AM   
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"The industry" loves Obama because Obamacare is about using the IRS to force people to buy an insurance policy

Obama probably loined dat back in Chicago from da boyz down to da yoonyun hall


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Isn't this kind of off topic? Obamacare isn't an entitlement, it is regulating an industry. You get that, right?

Back on topic, since when did "fuck'em" become a plan?
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Thats not true, entitlements (generally) are what are killing us.

If Greeces health care system is free why is the Greek government cutting into the bone in that area to save costs

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Greece+Health+system+crumbles+cuts+bite/6784667/story.html





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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 10:06:22 AM   
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Prices tend to become inflated when the government gets involved in such things as health care "for our own good" as they say

Theres someone willing to pay six hundred dollars for a toilet seat, what do you know - toilet seats suddenly all cost six hundred dollars or more

Hold on to your wallet whenever you hear someone say "Im from the government and Im here to help"

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One doesn't need health insurance to pay for health care, there is a thing called the dollar, in which health care providers will tale in lieu of service.

Do us all a favor and stop equating insurance with health care.


Lots and lots and lots of dollars. Dollars people don't have.

But it they're too lazy to become millionaires, fuck 'em.

Come on. Practically, they're the same thing today.



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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 10:26:53 AM   
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Prices tend to become inflated when the government gets involved in such things as health care


Prices are already inflated, and have been growing at double digit rates for decades. Small businesses can no longer afford the coverage. It's a crisis waiting to break. Affordable Care Act is far from ideal--but it finally breaks through the barriers.

You contention that the industry loves this because it forces money into their coffers is curious given they spent so much opposing it.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 10:29:08 AM   
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Theres someone willing to pay six hundred dollars for a toilet seat, what do you know - toilet seats suddenly all cost six hundred dollars or more

Hold on to your wallet whenever you hear someone say "Im from the government and Im here to help"


Please write the the House Republicans who just voted to increase military spending to buy what the Defense Dept. doesn't even want. Tell they you're not supporting them unless they reverse this nonsense.

Show some outrage that addresses the problem, instead of the blind partisan defense of anything right.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 10:33:23 AM   
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Two words - Medicare and Medicaid

Okay, two more - bureaucratic regulation

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Prices tend to become inflated when the government gets involved in such things as health care


Prices are already inflated, and have been growing at double digit rates for decades. Small businesses can no longer afford the coverage. It's a crisis waiting to break. Affordable Care Act is far from ideal--but it finally breaks through the barriers.

You contention that the industry loves this because it forces money into their coffers is curious given they spent so much opposing it.



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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 10:39:00 AM   
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Two words - Medicare and Medicaid

Okay, two more - bureaucratic regulation


Programs that relieved a significant poverty problem in the 60s, especially among the elderly.

Let's take the Department of Homeland Pretending-to-do-something-about-terrorism-with-domestic-theater and re-allocate the funding. Problem solved.

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RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire - 6/17/2012 10:39:08 AM   
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If the Dems had any kind of a decent plan or record to run on they could put their broken "Blame Bush" record in the trash bin where it rightfully belongs

What, like the Republicans did with their "it was all Carter's fault" record when Bush prime was elected, you mean?

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