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ProlificNeeds -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/19/2012 6:40:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds

FR

Just throwing it out there but Bi men increase your odds of one day having a great sandiwch, with you as the filling.... just saying.


TOTALLY not projecting my own fantasies here... totally. [8|]

It's not necessary for the men to be bi to make a lady sammich. Just sayin'[&:]


Prove it, Hilly!! I have quit trying to make that fantasy come true!


Okay, okay, so part of my fantasy involves having the bread touch too, but if they aren't bi then usually they are way too weirded out to be exposed to one another. Trust us, we've TRIED.




GotSteel -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/20/2012 5:52:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy
sorry if i offend anyone.. i'm not homophobic i promise.


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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy
also i would never ever use a strap on a guy because thats gay too. just the thought makes me shudder.

Are you sure you're not homophobic? Because I've got to tell you labeling that sort of sex between a man and a woman as gay doesn't make sense to me.





kitkat105 -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/20/2012 6:05:48 AM)

There's probably enough of Teh Gay from all the posters in this thread, he/she/it has probably caught some. [;)]




GotSteel -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/20/2012 11:25:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl
There's nothing wrong with wanting a 100% straight guy, but say so in your profile and take your profile off "Hide" for crying out loud. You have a zero chance of anyone reading it or knowing what you want if you keep it hidden.

I'm suspecting that the profile went on hide after realizing that she sounded like a bigot.

I think one of the consequences of prejudice is that there are gay and bi men who identify as straight. I'll occasionally come across a guy who won't take straight as an answer. I'm wondering if she's run into the other end of it, maybe some of what she's venting about is men around here who are claiming to be straight subsiquently wanting her to facilitate their "forced" bi fantasies.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/20/2012 11:59:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: ProlificNeeds

FR

Just throwing it out there but Bi men increase your odds of one day having a great sandiwch, with you as the filling.... just saying.


TOTALLY not projecting my own fantasies here... totally. [8|]

It's not necessary for the men to be bi to make a lady sammich. Just sayin'[&:]


Prove it, Hilly!! I have quit trying to make that fantasy come true!


Okay, okay, so part of my fantasy involves having the bread touch too, but if they aren't bi then usually they are way too weirded out to be exposed to one another. Trust us, we've TRIED.


AND TRIED. I think the secret formula is to find a bi male couple. And when you find THAT particular breed of unicorn, take careful notes!




Sepultura -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/21/2012 9:53:45 PM)

Yes. Case in point, me. I'm not even sure of why you would correlate a guy who is submissive to a woman with a guy who is attracted to another guy? Apples/oranges. Although what a sub thinks is often considered irrelevant by a Domme or Dom, we are part of the equation. I have enjoyed the off-times I've been beaten or subjugated by a Domme, but would go the rest of my life as a Monk before biting a pillow for another guy. If I can't find a woman, I'll simply do without. It is only as important as you allow it to be.




Bill41 -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/22/2012 9:34:43 AM)

Littlemissbossy,

You are either misinformed and need to do more research on anal play and /or you need to deal with your homophobia.




hangemhigh1953 -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/22/2012 2:56:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy
i'm not homophobic i promise. but

This phrase doesn't make it OK to be prejudiced in the following paragraph.

By definition I think men on an alternative lifestyle site are going to be more open minded, and perhaps therefore curious about bisexuality, anal play, etc. It doesn't mean that they won't honor your wishes. Just because they can be attracted to both men and women doesn't mean they are going to be somehow unfaithful to you.




mummyman321 -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/22/2012 4:05:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy

sorry if i offend anyone.. i'm not homophobic i promise. but i only want to date men who are 100% heterosexual. it seems like most male subs are at least a little bi curous/bi sexual ? thats what ive noticed anyway. why do people put "straight" on their profile and then say they are looking for a transexual ? sorry but thats gay ... also i would never ever use a strap on a guy because thats gay too. just the thought makes me shudder. most submissive men don't seem to care about what the woman wants, ironically , its all about them and their fantasies and fetishes . maybe bdsm isn't right for me . all i want is a guy who i can boss around on *my terms * , is that possible?



I have been a sub for 20+ years. To my knowledge I am not gay, nor I ever been. Okay....that mystery is solved!




funguy36 -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/25/2012 8:44:50 PM)

Ma'am. I am submissive and 1000% straight.....that being said, I have climaxed from having a slender finger gently slid into my ass by a Domme.....I was punished for the unwanted climax but by no means does that make one gay.




Diormat -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/28/2012 12:29:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy

sorry if i offend anyone.. i'm not homophobic i promise. but i only want to date men who are 100% heterosexual. it seems like most male subs are at least a little bi curous/bi sexual ? thats what ive noticed anyway. why do people put "straight" on their profile and then say they are looking for a transexual ? sorry but thats gay ... also i would never ever use a strap on a guy because thats gay too. just the thought makes me shudder. most submissive men don't seem to care about what the woman wants, ironically , its all about them and their fantasies and fetishes . maybe bdsm isn't right for me . all i want is a guy who i can boss around on *my terms * , is that possible?



I'm guessing your new to the scene. I'm also guessing that you didn't get the answer you wanted. I expect you may be surprised by the level of hostility your post received.

Yes, many subs can appear selfish. This can be used to separate the subs (those who want to serve and what you seem to want) from the bottoms. We should all try to remember that, in the first instance, the desire to submit stems from fantasy (and that's entirely to do with what the individual wants). If a man didn't fantasize about being dominated, they would be unlikely to develop submissive tendencies.

So you're looking for a man who is 100% heterosexual? Well, we can cross off 100% of the male population then. Back in the sixties, studies into human sexuality concluded that no-one is 100% straight: which from your point of view makes them all gay. Many "straight" men fantasize being "forced" to partake in such acts as they would find it humiliating. By your reckoning, this would make them gay. May I ask how many gay men you've actually met? Most of them don't feel that way about it. You come across as quite ignorant: not attractive.

I don't necessarily think you're (intentionally) homophobic. However, making such a post is not does not make you look particularly attractive either: because you it makes you appear prejudiced. Young male subs often feel uncomfortable in their skin, and actually seek understanding from those they wish to submit to. Many of the people involved in the scene also face prejudice from those outside of it. Most of the guys you might be interested in having serve you would be turned off you by the statement you've made: it lacks understanding and makes you appear bigoted. You might be one of the few dommes that don't end up being inundated with posts from prospective subs. Those that do will probably be quite boring and more interested in satisfying their own needs rather than yours.

Oddly enough, I feel that you have a right to state the limits you have. You may not come across particularly well in the way you express yourself and I would recommend that you think before you type. There may be many who have posted here who will feel that I have treated you with far greater respect than you deserve: but then your wording is likely to inspire a hostile response on these pages.




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/28/2012 1:00:29 PM)

I think littlemissbossy should just put strap-on play under her Hard Limits. Also she should set her own search parameters for straight male submissives/slaves. That's a lot easier than coming onto a message board and whining about it. Coming on here to whine and rant just makes her look bigoted and homophobic.




CRYPTICLXVI -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/28/2012 8:48:52 PM)

Goddammit, I can't even keep up with the one poster whining posts... and I have more time on my hands than before... where do they all come from? Cleveland?




GotSteel -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (6/29/2012 5:49:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Diormat
So you're looking for a man who is 100% heterosexual? Well, we can cross off 100% of the male population then. Back in the sixties, studies into human sexuality concluded that no-one is 100% straight: which from your point of view makes them all gay.


Could you cite your source for that? Sorry it's just that using undocumented "studies" from the sixties for topics that aren't terribly well understood today always sets off my skepticism.




doublebb -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (7/27/2012 9:04:14 AM)

I love slaves who are open and doesnt hesitate when it comes to playing with their anal etc etc.


For me, its sexy. and a gay slave wouldnt be interested on me coz he is gay.




samjones90 -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (7/27/2012 10:54:13 AM)

Hello Miss,

I am straight and also very new i haven't expierienced much but, some things I am ashamed of. Not what you may be thinking but, it's a hard wild road. not sure what to say.




crazyml -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (7/27/2012 11:03:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy

sorry if i offend anyone.. i'm not homophobic i promise.


The phrase "I'm not homophobic I promise" always alerts me to some impending homophobia....

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but i only want to date men who are 100% heterosexual. it seems like most male subs are at least a little bi curous/bi sexual ? thats what ive noticed anyway.


Hmm... that's exactly opposite to my experience, I can assure you. The vast majority of male subs I've met are hetero.

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why do people put "straight" on their profile and then say they are looking for a transexual ? sorry but thats gay ...


Bless you and your simplistic view of gender. I'm sure it works for you, just I'm sure you'll be ok with the fact that some people are likely to think "what a stupid cunt to have such a simplistic view".

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also i would never ever use a strap on a guy because thats gay too.



No it's fucking not.

Now I'm sure you're not stupid, but that is a very stupid thing to say.

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just the thought makes me shudder.



Which is ok, you don't have to like everything that everyone else does.

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most submissive men don't seem to care about what the woman wants, ironically , its all about them and their fantasies and fetishes .


It's not uncommon for subs of either sex to be very focussed on what they want - So yeah, ironically for many it is all about them and their fantasies and fetishes.

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maybe bdsm isn't right for me .


That could very well be the case. I'm not sure you'll find it all that easy to find a compatible partner.

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all i want is a guy who i can boss around on *my terms * , is that possible?



Sure... more or less.

What would you be bringing to the relationship?







LaTigresse -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (7/27/2012 11:04:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy

sorry if i offend anyone.. i'm not homophobic i promise. but i only want to date men who are 100% heterosexual. it seems like most male subs are at least a little bi curous/bi sexual ? thats what ive noticed anyway. why do people put "straight" on their profile and then say they are looking for a transexual ? sorry but thats gay ... also i would never ever use a strap on a guy because thats gay too. just the thought makes me shudder. most submissive men don't seem to care about what the woman wants, ironically , its all about them and their fantasies and fetishes . maybe bdsm isn't right for me . all i want is a guy who i can boss around on *my terms * , is that possible?



Bless you heart.

Yanno, I am going to be nice, generous even. Personally, a lot of what you wrote I do agree with.....much of the time. Many men that call themselves submissive, are not.....they are kinky bottoms trying to manipulate. The idea of sticking anything up a guy's ass is about as appealing to me as having the contents of a cat little box for dinner.

BUT.......there are ways to convey your personal interests, or not, without offending the people that dig it. I have personal preferences and icks. They are MINE. Just because I am not turned on by something does not make those that dig it, less wonderful people. In fact, listening to someone like LadyP for instance, talk about how hot she thinks guy on guy action is, makes me smile. She does it in a way that does not give me visuals I don't want to see, but conveys her personal delight.

The gay slams. You use it like it's a negative. In effect, contradicting your blah blah blah about not being homophobic. You may not be afraid of gay people but you are quite comfortable using it as an insult. Shame on you. I think it is YOU that needs something shoved up your arse, preferably something quite painful.....after your head is removed.

Your OP made you come across like an immature narrow minded spoilt little twat. I sincerely doubt that is the image you want to convey. Unless of course it is......and in that case, carry on with your bad self.

Just know that you will not get away with it here. Not without a whole lotta virtual shit flying back in your face.




ReMakeYou -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (7/27/2012 11:21:21 AM)

Must do what mistress commands, with no thought for his own kinks or indeed self-interest.

Must have hard limits of trannies, anal play, and "anything gay".

Subs, like doms, are a touch more complex than fiction would have you believe.




Dresproperty -> RE: Are there any submissive guys out there who are NOT gay? (7/27/2012 11:30:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlemissbossy

sorry if i offend anyone.. i'm not homophobic i promise. but i only want to date men who are 100% heterosexual. it seems like most male subs are at least a little bi curous/bi sexual ? thats what ive noticed anyway. why do people put "straight" on their profile and then say they are looking for a transexual ? sorry but thats gay ... also i would never ever use a strap on a guy because thats gay too. just the thought makes me shudder. most submissive men don't seem to care about what the woman wants, ironically , its all about them and their fantasies and fetishes . maybe bdsm isn't right for me . all i want is a guy who i can boss around on *my terms * , is that possible?




WOW~~ you really put your foot in your mouth.

For me one of the 1st rules of bdsm etiquette is not to judge other people's kink~especially in a public forum.

The other things I would point out about your post have already been discussed by previous posters.




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