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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 1:41:20 AM   
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just wondering why the right feels it is ok to attack someone (or the president) personally whenever they dont like what is being said. must be bad manners, it cant be that they are trying to divert attention

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 4:07:47 AM   
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It isn't easy, coming up with dirt and nastiness on clean-living Mormons who don't write "autobiographies" full of lies, is it?

How did you feel about how the Obama family acquired the big yard for their house in Chicago?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 4:26:15 AM   
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The horse LOVED riding on top of the car and would climb up their itself........


It this the horse they took a 77 grand tax credit for?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 4:31:50 AM   
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Um, what is the status of this case, according to your source Lucy?

Now in Semisweet's story it says
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When Super Hit was examined by a vet to verify his presale physical condition, the vet found that Super Hit was Super High on a positively Limbaughesque cocktail of painkillers. The vet testified, "In my 38 years of practice, I have never come across a drug screen such as this where the horse has been administered so many different medications at the same time." The jilted Super Hit buyer alleges that the painkillers were administered by Team Romney in an attempt to disguise the horse's bum foot, which made it impossible for the horse to perform feats necessary for dressage. Unleash the lawyers!


In Lucy's story, it says
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Before writing a check, Norris sought a standard prepurchase exam. The Ebelings recommended a veterinarian they knew, Dr. Doug Herthel, who identified the joint abnormality on an X-ray. He informed Norris of it but assured her it would not bar him from the upper-level show ring.

But Herthel apparently did not mention that a toxicology test reported four tranquilizers in Super Hit’s blood at the time of the exam. His records showed that he injected two of the drugs — to steady Super Hit during X-rays, he testified — but there was no documentation of the other two tranquilizers.

Herthel sent an email to Amy Ebeling asking if the horse had been sedated before the exam; she replied that he had not. How the additional tranquilizers got into the animal was never fully established. A lawyer for Herthel, Steve Schwartz, said the drug laboratory’s tests were not definitive.


So if we believe semisweets story, the horse was higher than Method Man, but if we believe Lucy's story, the horse had two, not a Limbaughesque cocktail of pain killers. So nobody knows what really happened, and this story is just more shit slinging.

Either way it doesn't matter, the case was dismissed.

I rest my case... (pun intended)

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 4:48:27 AM   
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And... <drum roll>... O'Fuckup declared a loss of $119,527 on their 2011 Tax Return -- or almost TRIPLE "the average wage of a USA worker" at $43k. 

Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/POTUS_taxes.pdf






Try to be consistant with your .......equivalency attempt
Look at the total loss figures, not just for for the horse care...ok 983,249$ more, than the president

1,102,776$, then figure it out, thats almost 26 times more than the AAW

Now I agree this with Winterapple, this is about fraud and mistreatment of a horse and its sale.
now Im done with your attempt to derail.
have fun, attempting to make this about Obama.





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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 4:52:05 AM   
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It isn't easy, coming up with dirt and nastiness on clean-living Mormons who don't write "autobiographies" full of lies, is it?

How did you feel about how the Obama family acquired the big yard for their house in Chicago?

LMAO thats rich coming from you Rich....


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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:06:36 AM   
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Either way it doesn't matter, the case was dismissed.

I rest my case... (pun intended)

considering your case was wanting a source.....I'd say you dont have one....again.
you didn't actually "make" a case"



But you are welcome...



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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:13:27 AM   
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considering your case was wanting a source.....I'd say you dont have one....again.
you didn't actually "make" a case"
But you are welcome...



Neither do those of you trying to smear Ann Romney... But that didn't stop you from trying.

It was a valiant effort, but in the end horse shit is still horse shit.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:14:05 AM   
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Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.


I think we should wait for a link to a legit source before we take this seriously... Just sayin'




Now that was funny. Facts don't matter when it comes to bashing republicans. That's why there are still some who claim Rushbo was a drug dealer. The only time they care about the truth is when its someone on the left being attacked. I would think after all the time you have spent here, you would have figured that out by now.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:26:25 AM   
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Now that was funny. Facts don't matter when it comes to bashing republicans. That's why there are still some who claim Rushbo was a drug dealer. The only time they care about the truth is when its someone on the left being attacked. I would think after all the time you have spent here, you would have figured that out by now.



Oh, I have, but every once in a while they need to be reminded that horse shit is horse shit, and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:35:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.


I think we should wait for a link to a legit source before we take this seriously... Just sayin'




Now that was funny. Facts don't matter when it comes to bashing republicans. That's why there are still some who claim Rushbo was a drug dealer. The only time they care about the truth is when its someone on the left being attacked. I would think after all the time you have spent here, you would have figured that out by now.
And your normal SOP is to attack the left leaning posters.....
not the topic..
amazing that huh

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:42:29 AM   
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Now that was funny. Facts don't matter when it comes to bashing republicans. That's why there are still some who claim Rushbo was a drug dealer. The only time they care about the truth is when its someone on the left being attacked. I would think after all the time you have spent here, you would have figured that out by now.



Oh, I have, but every once in a while they need to be reminded that horse shit is horse shit, and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

What, like making excuses for somebody selling a drugged up horse under false pretences while insisting that his election rival doesn't have a birth certificate?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 5:47:23 AM   
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JMO.. In my mind it should be a question of if Ms Romney knew what was going on with the horse and how it was sold. From what i have seen so far, it was the Ebelings that were the ones handling the sale of this horse and the ones that had knowledge of the meds given it, etc.. Ms Romney may very well have had no part or knowledge before or during that occurance, becoming aware only upon being named in a lawsuit (apparently since she was part owner). It looks like Norris was primarily suing the Jan Ebeling (since it says "Catherine Norris vs. Jan Ebeling).. Until I see real proof that Ms Romney knew about it beforehand or at the time of the sale, I shall refrain from throwing stones at her..

eta- seriously, her hubby (& her) are worth multi-millions, imo she has no financial reason to drug up a horse to sell it.. I also dont think she is stupid enough to go along with such a scheme, one that can so easily backfire

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 6:20:55 AM   
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JMO.. In my mind it should be a question of if Ms Romney knew what was going on with the horse and how it was sold. From what i have seen so far, it was the Ebelings that were the ones handling the sale of this horse and the ones that had knowledge of the meds given it, etc.. Ms Romney may very well have had no part or knowledge before or during that occurance, becoming aware only upon being named in a lawsuit (apparently since she was part owner). It looks like Norris was primarily suing the Jan Ebeling (since it says "Catherine Norris vs. Jan Ebeling).. Until I see real proof that Ms Romney knew about it beforehand or at the time of the sale, I shall refrain from throwing stones at her..

eta- seriously, her hubby (& her) are worth multi-millions, imo she has no financial reason to drug up a horse to sell it.. I also dont think she is stupid enough to go along with such a scheme, one that can so easily backfire



Don't you know facts always queer a good rant? We can't let little facts like that prevent the left from slinging shit at the Romneys... Can we? It doesn't matter that the case was dismissed, or that Dr Herthel's records show he administered two of the four drugs detected... Because it's all about ANN ROMNEY! That evil rich stay at home Mom... Oh, did you know she's white, and Michelle Obama is the first black First Lady?

I though I should throw that last part out there for you race card users since you always remind us that we hate Barack because he's black and all... May as well get it all on the table.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 6:29:04 AM   
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now Why is it always righties accusing lefties of using the race card,and they are the FIRST to say it?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 6:31:52 AM   
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Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.


I think we should wait for a link to a legit source before we take this seriously... Just sayin'


You're denying this happened?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 6:38:31 AM   
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You're denying this happened?



In which part of any of my posts is a denial of the event? Where did you even get the impression? I asked for a source since the OP didn't provide one Kenny... Even you should know by now that source material should be linked to, to give credit to the person who wrote the article.

But since you brought it up, are you denying that this thread is just a feeble attempt to smear Ann Romney?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 6:41:55 AM   
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now Why is it always righties accusing lefties of using the race card,and they are the FIRST to say it?



Um, because the left has thrown out the race card so fucking often that it was bound to come out. Duh

I think you're just mad that a conservative beat you at your own game. You being the progressives who love to believe that we dislike Barack because he's black.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 7:40:36 AM   
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There are ethics and responsibilities involved
with animal ownership. Take off the names and
show this case to people with knowledge of
horse used in dressage and they wouldn't let
any of the horses owners off the hook.
The Romney's knew the horse was injured
and they agreed to put it up for sale.
If they were content to allow their friends
to handle the details of the sale with
no oversight on their part this indicates
carelessness on their part at best and turning
a blind eye at worst.
The buyer was buying the horse to compete
in the ring with. The horse wasn't capable
of this because it was injured and obvious
attempts were made to disguise the injury.
I don't imagine people in the dressage
world would take the view the Romney's
bore no culpability in the transaction.
Two of the shots the horse was given are
not documented? That isn't something to
be shrugged off.
Were the two documented shots acknowledged
to the potential owner before the exam?
And if Mrs Romney loved dear Soupy so much
why didn't she and Willard do the right thing
and take the loss and put Soupy out to
pasture? I've known people with far less
money than the Romney's who did just that.
But no ethical horse owner would have
agreed to sell the horse to a buyer who
was looking for a horse to compete.
Even with full disclosure that would be
unethical because the injured horse would
almost certainly sustain other injuries
and probably have to be put down.
That doesn't indicate great love and
respect for Soupy. It conjures the
image of a little rich girl who hasn't
any interest in her toys after they are
broken. Let the minions and partners
deal with it. Don't as Ann and Willard to
step up and act like responsible adults.
As in the dog story they showed a
obliviousness born out of privilege.
As Nick Carroway said of the wealthy
Tom and Daisy Buchannon they were
careless.
And if they were this careless with animals
they came to love why should voters assume
they will be that different with a sea of
people they don't even know?
Both stories are a window into the Romney's
character and judgement making abilities.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 7:51:03 AM   
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now Why is it always righties accusing lefties of using the race card,and they are the FIRST to say it?



Um, because the left has thrown out the race card so fucking often that it was bound to come out. Duh

I think you're just mad that a conservative beat you at your own game. You being the progressives who love to believe that we dislike Barack because he's black.

when you beat me, I'll congratulate you, you are a legend in your own coffee break huh.
I have never claimed you are a racist for disliking the President
But it's the same with the messiah, saviour, bullshit, it comes out of more "right" posters than it does, the "left" posters here,
so suck it.
YOU brought it up in this topic, OWN IT
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