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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 7:52:45 AM

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I don't imagine people in the dressage
world would take the view the Romney's
bore no culpability in the transaction.
Two of the shots the horse was given are
not documented? That isn't something to
be shrugged off.
Were the two documented shots acknowledged
to the potential owner before the exam?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 7:56:17 AM

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I have never claimed you are a racist for disliking the President
But its the same with the messiah, saviour, bullshit, it comes out of more "right posters than it does, the left posters here,
so suck it.

More?
I've yet to see any left leaning posters on here talk about teh Kenyan in the sort of glowing terms that certain rightists are convinced is the only way the "marxist" kool aid drinkers are allowed to even think about the right of centre, spineless little groveller.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 8:05:41 AM

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Well I'm sure as hell not gonna spend time balancing them out by post, mainly because too many have been removed due to TOS, but ... Im sure someone will be along to disagree:) with both of us

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 9:39:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.

I think we should wait for a link to a legit source before we take this seriously... Just sayin'

Now that was funny. Facts don't matter when it comes to bashing republicans. That's why there are still some who claim Rushbo was a drug dealer. The only time they care about the truth is when its someone on the left being attacked. I would think after all the time you have spent here, you would have figured that out by now.

And your normal SOP is to attack the left leaning posters.....
not the topic..
amazing that huh

I would have to know a lot more about the situation before I start judging it. But that won't stop a lot on here. As to only attacking the left, that's bullshit. I have shown before where I go after ones on the right and I keep hearing the same bs accusation. This petty left vs right bs is why I don't bother with replying so much any more.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 10:00:12 AM

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I didnt say only attacking leftists...
I said "normal SOP is to attack the left leaning posters..... not the topic.. "
there is a difference

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 10:01:12 AM

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Well, Lucy, since Moonhead is well known for inserting race and slurs into damn near every post he ever makes regarding my President, I don't think you are picking very wisely for your teamate on that discussion.

Ann Romney has MS, and got involved in the sport of dressage for physical therapy. Horse trading is involved, and she was part owner on a horse that got traded. Whoopee.

It seems to me that somebody fell in love with a sweet disposition, and didn't pay enough attention to the paperwork on a horse trade, then got buyers remorse and took it to court. The same thing happens to people who buy a used car based on the stereo, instead of noticing the dealer has a heavier oil hiding the engine taps and rattles. Even if there were shenanigins here, Ann Romney wasn't the dealer.

And if people want to play with a connection to a shady deal, they really ought to make some effort to learn who Tony Rezko is.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 10:09:32 AM

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LMAO
hilarious, specious and something I would expect from on of YOUR team mates,
you are a riot dear
bait away.. Ive got strawberry shortcake to make.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 10:11:26 AM

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"Well, Lucy, since Moonhead is well known for inserting race and slurs into damn near every post he ever makes regarding my President"

Only as a dig......against the bigots in your party and your buddies here......not as insults to minorities.

Which is obvious to anyone........as is the reason for your umbrage.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 10:43:03 AM

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It seems to me that somebody fell in love with a sweet disposition, and didn't pay enough attention to the paperwork on a horse trade, then got buyers remorse and took it to court. The same thing happens to people who buy a used car based on the stereo, instead of noticing the dealer has a heavier oil hiding the engine taps and rattles. Even if there were shenanigins here, Ann Romney wasn't the dealer.

I find it strange that Norris let Ebeling hire the vet to examine the horse instead of hiring a vet herself directly whose loyalty would have been to her alone.. seriously,.. if you want to buy a house, its the buyer that hires their own home inspector,.. same thing with a mechanic to evaluate/test a used car before you buy it..

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 10:46:18 AM

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You're denying this happened?

In which part of any of my posts is a denial of the event? Where did you even get the impression? I asked for a source since the OP didn't provide one Kenny... Even you should know by now that source material should be linked to, to give credit to the person who wrote the article.

But since you brought it up, are you denying that this thread is just a feeble attempt to smear Ann Romney?

The truth is not a smear. AnnRomney was sued over the sale of the horse and settled out of court.

IOW she tried to defraud a potential buyer that a broken down animal was a top competitive dressage horse.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 11:02:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
It seems to me that somebody fell in love with a sweet disposition, and didn't pay enough attention to the paperwork on a horse trade, then got buyers remorse and took it to court. The same thing happens to people who buy a used car based on the stereo, instead of noticing the dealer has a heavier oil hiding the engine taps and rattles. Even if there were shenanigins here, Ann Romney wasn't the dealer.

I find it strange that Norris let Ebeling hire the vet to examine the horse instead of hiring a vet herself directly whose loyalty would have been to her alone.. seriously,.. if you want to buy a house, its the buyer that hires their own home inspector,.. same thing with a mechanic to evaluate/test a used car before you buy it..

"Let the buyer beware" and "Never look a gift horse in the mouth" come to mind here.

Still....the law is the law.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 11:06:39 AM

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as is the reason for your umbrage.

Since you apparently have no comprehension of principled consistency, Owner59, I'm sure that's exactly how you see it.

I believe it is appropriate to refer to the President, and the office of the President in a respectful manner, even when making an argument that he's a slick talking incompetent, who had nothing like the level of experience and seasoning in government to be elevated to the office and power he holds, and that the country will be be far better off when he is back in Chicago, writing books, collecting big speaking fees, and scooping up the Bo piles on his nice, big Rezco Lawn.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 11:25:33 AM

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Lol

Flattery will get you nowhere.........

No one believes you or any neo-con has respect for the presidency....especially during disaster bush`s 8 years.

Or for the Constitution or for morality or civility or for democracy.One thing to believe your own bullshit.Quite another to think others will.

Once upon a time they were the loyal opposition.

At this point,conservatives and the 1% they lick up to are parasitical on our system,socially,economically and spiritually.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 11:38:45 AM

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Since you apparently have no comprehension of principled consistency, Owner59, I'm sure that's exactly how you see it.

I believe it is appropriate to refer to the President, and the office of the President in a respectful manner, even when making an argument that he's a slick talking incompetent, who had nothing like the level of experience and seasoning in government to be elevated to the office and power he holds, and that the country will be be far better off when he is back in Chicago, writing books, collecting big speaking fees, and scooping up the Bo piles on his nice, big Rezco Lawn.

I no longer believe in that, as beside yourself who else does.

Especially on the left...

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 11:41:53 AM

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Just for clarity, Semisweet, I'm not hijacking to Rezko, but if you want to make an issue of Ann Romney having a connection to a potentially shady deal as a cause for concern about the family's ethics, then I'm going to ask you directly if you would be equally concerned about the transaction on the Obama mansion in Chicago.

The house and yard were split into two parcels for the sale. The Obama family bought the house for hundreds of thousand of dollars less than the asking price, while the wife of a crook (later convicted and sent off to federal prison) paid full price for the yard, on the same day. Then the Obamas bought just enough of the yard, to get the benefit of all of it. They paid about a third of the money they had saved below the asking price on the house, for that.

The President has described the deal as a mistake, and boneheaded, and the media has been perfectly happy to consider the matter closed.

Still so bothered by a hint of shady dealings, that might taint Mitt's wife a little?

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 11:42:48 AM

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We should all be outraged that gay men haven't forgotten the many friends they lost while Reagan refused to even acknowledge their was a disease killing them.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 12:05:29 PM

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Thank you for making my point ken

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We should all be outraged that gay men haven't forgotten the many friends they lost while Reagan refused to even acknowledge their was a disease killing them.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 12:52:05 PM

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I suppose it can't really be proven that Ann
Romney ever even met this horse she settled
out of court about.
It was all those other people who do her and
Mitts ... it was all that paperwork... you can't
expect every shot a horse is given to
be documented... not one you're trying
to sell... hey, you aren't accusing
Ann of giving the horse the shots herself
are you? ... some people are big meanies

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 1:09:20 PM

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And I don't suppose one reason the buyer went along
with the recommended vet was because she
couldn't imagine that the Romney's would
associate with people who would try and
sell a drugged up injured horse.
She might have heard they what clean
living Mormons they are.
The horse was injured. The Romney's profited
from it's sale, they settled with the buyer
out of court.
The ethics of selling a injured horse even
with full disclosure is dodgy.
If she was as ignorant about what happened
when the horse left her barn as her apologist
would have her be that still doesn't excuse
her carelessness about the horses fate.
And again if you're old man has a itch to
be president you might want to dot every
i and cross every t. Her thinking was any
quicker than the buyers.
And there's another peek at Willard and
Ann behind closed doors. Neither of them
is especially bright.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 1:32:02 PM

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I doubt the Romney's had any knowledge of the horse being drugged prior to the sell. But that doesn't excuse them either--it just makes them careless.

Just as Obama's real estate deal made him careless.

But there is a difference here: Obama's real estate deal, distasteful as it is, didn't hurt anybody (or any living creature).

The Romney's, through their lack of care, attention and thought, have been showing a history of hurting animals. First with their dog on the car roof and now this. If Mrs. Romney had been more involved with this horse, whom she claimed to love, maybe she would have known it was drugged and maybe she could have prevented it from being drugged in the first place. That is, if she even really cared, which is the question of the day.

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