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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/25/2012 8:01:37 PM   
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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/25/2012 8:03:14 PM   
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Comeon Lucy owner59 said nothing of the kind and you know when I come to his defence it has to be bad.

im hoping thats a joke

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/25/2012 9:14:44 PM   
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As if leftists never once complained about the overall cost of liberating Iraq

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Bush took the time and made the investments necessary to insure that the changes brought forth by American might were for the better






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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/25/2012 10:14:58 PM   
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You don`t get to call it a liberation or pat yourselves on the back.

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 1:48:43 AM   
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Iraq was a fraud you cons lied us into.......


You don`t get to call it a liberation or pat yourselves on the back.

It appears that he hasn't yet realised that Iraq is effectively a province of Iran. Or that the civil war there isn't over, all the signs are that the various sides are just marking time until the US departure is completed.

I wonder how the ayatollahs in Teheran felt when they realised that the stupidity of their greatest enemy was such it was handing them Iraq on a platter, and that the US was squandering thousands of US military lives, and quadrillions of $ to do so. I imagine they were falling over themselves laughing at the idiocy and naivety of Bush and Cheney.

While the Teherani ayatolllahs owe the US a huge Thank You for giving them Iraq as a free present, it's easy to understand their reluctance to say so publicly.





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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 3:02:16 AM   
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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 4:38:34 AM   
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As if leftists never once complained about the overall cost of liberating Iraq

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Bush took the time and made the investments necessary to insure that the changes brought forth by American might were for the better






War-on-the-Cheap Rummy and In-and-out-Mission-Accomplished Bush had not exit plan and no funding.

They've created a decades long commitment at a cost of trillions.

You want to liberate countries? Go to ones that need it desperately. Start with Myanmar and Sudan.

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 4:46:45 AM   
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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 5:36:54 AM   
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Which was it - war on the cheap, no funding... or "at a cost of trillions"

Which is it, liberate countries, or not

Get your talking points straightened out now... LOL

Obama is "liberating" countries by remote control then walking away from the power vacuums which are then filled with extremists exponentially worse than the governments who were there before your lord and savior bombed them

Deny the reality with your contradictory and mindless warmed over talking points all day...

Which is typical of so many leftists, so many of them cant think on their feet

Bush (then Obama) own Iraq and Afghanistan, and are rehabilitating them at a cost of trillions. But Obamas baby, his legacy will be his creating Arab winter

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

War-on-the-Cheap Rummy and In-and-out-Mission-Accomplished Bush had not exit plan and no funding.

They've created a decades long commitment at a cost of trillions.

You want to liberate countries? Go to ones that need it desperately. Start with Myanmar and Sudan.



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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 5:47:28 AM   
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Which was it - war on the cheap, no funding... or "at a cost of trillions"

Which is it, liberate countries, or not

Get your talking points straightened out now... LOL

Obama is "liberating" countries by remote control then walking away from the power vacuums which are then filled with extremists exponentially worse than the governments who were there before your lord and savior bombed them

Deny the reality with your contradictory and mindless warmed over talking points all day...

Which is typical of so many leftists, so many of them cant think on their feet

Bush (then Obama) own Iraq and Afghanistan, and are rehabilitating them at a cost of trillions. But Obamas baby, his legacy will be his creating Arab winter

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

War-on-the-Cheap Rummy and In-and-out-Mission-Accomplished Bush had not exit plan and no funding.

They've created a decades long commitment at a cost of trillions.

You want to liberate countries? Go to ones that need it desperately. Start with Myanmar and Sudan.



As I've pointed out to you many times, you see the world in left/right glasses. There is no such world, except in the media you consume.

If you ever bothered to read my actual points, you'd know I'm no fan of the President. But I'm not a knee-jerk critic either.

All three of the conflicts you mention are about oil. I don't care who spins them. If we cared about oppressed people, we'd be in completely different countries. We care about oppressed oil, and our thirst for it creates the oppressors. Incidentally, we do the same with Mexican drug lords, whose biggest customer by far is the U.S.

We don't have to do this. We could have been the first and greatest largely oil-free nation by now, completely free of the growing global demand and the increasing pressure this puts on food prices. We could have used our prosperity to create long term security. We didn't. We spent it on politics instead. Same goes for coal, gas, even hydropower, which, while renewable, has consequences.

Check out this wicked awesome cool wind-turbine bridge Italy is building. The roadway is a solar collector--technology developed...right here. But we're too dump to use it. That's power for 15,000 homes per bridge.


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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 5:53:25 AM   
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We are:
Killing AQ leaders with unmanned drones.

That is pretty useless: there is always someone else to carry on in their stead.

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We are:
Hamstringing Iran's nuclear capabilities with Stuxnet.

That is pretty useless too. Computers are hardly necessary to develop nuclear capability.

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We are:
Using airpower to neuter Libya's forces and allow the rebels to overcome them.

That was well done, yes.

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We are:
Using SEALs to get OBL.

He was a CIA operative. So what?

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We are:
Basically, Obama's doing almost everything except invasion. What tactics would be better?

Invade and oppose circumcision.

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 5:59:15 AM   
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Youve finally settled on a single coherent talking point

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All three of the conflicts you mention are about oil.


Good for you

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:00:31 AM   
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Obama on the other hand is recklessly fighting these wars by remote control and enabling Muslim fundamentalists to overthrow moderate governments with no sense of care about the outcome

In short, Obamas policy in regard to Arab Winter is one of insanity

It is an application of the philosophy "To make something better, you have got to make it far worse first".

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:00:39 AM   
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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:05:08 AM   
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We await a likewise effort from you.



How about an effort your old troll pal Jimmy

Jimmuh on Obamas wars by remote control:

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A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."




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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:05:20 AM   
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Youve finally settled on a single coherent talking point

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All three of the conflicts you mention are about oil.


Good for you

And you got that after only 35 years. Good for you!

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:06:59 AM   
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We await a likewise effort from you.



How about an effort your old troll pal Jimmy

Jimmuh on Obamas wars by remote control:

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A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."




So you're against people criticizing the policy you're against. To the point of mocking.

Grow up and be a man.

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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:31:01 AM   
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Do they love us yet






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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:35:23 AM   
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Mocking because leftists are for the most part hypocrites

Which of the two do you worship more, moron

Make up your poor feeble little mind

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So you're against people criticizing the policy you're against. To the point of mocking.

Grow up and be a man.



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RE: Obamas Arab Winter - 6/26/2012 6:49:54 AM   
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