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sorry, i am, but growing up how i did, this post struck me as classist, i dont think thats how you meant it but i saw red and im having a pretty hard time letting this one go

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: imdmb

sorry, i am, but growing up how i did, this post struck me as classist, i dont think thats how you meant it but i saw red and im having a pretty hard time letting this one go

Well, then that's your bias, not ours.

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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sorry, i am, but growing up how i did, this post struck me as classist, i dont think thats how you meant it but i saw red and im having a pretty hard time letting this one go

Well, then that's your bias, not ours.

It's not just hers.

I'm not mad, though. I honestly don't understand the amount of energy people are putting into "Thou must use proper grammar and spell correctly" but hey that's their energy, not mine.

I didn't know about those alternatives to MS Office, either. Guess that makes me unintelligent, too, in others' eyes but that's perfectly fine with me.

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ORIGINAL: imdmb

sorry, i am, but growing up how i did, this post struck me as classist, i dont think thats how you meant it but i saw red and im having a pretty hard time letting this one go

Well, then that's your bias, not ours.

It's not just hers.

I'm not mad, though. I honestly don't understand the amount of energy people are putting into "Thou must use proper grammar and spell correctly" but hey that's their energy, not mine.

I didn't know about those alternatives to MS Office, either. Guess that makes me unintelligent, too, in others' eyes but that's perfectly fine with me.

You think it's classist? Because that what is the accusation is.......

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: imdmb

sorry, i am, but growing up how i did, this post struck me as classist, i dont think thats how you meant it but i saw red and im having a pretty hard time letting this one go

Well, then that's your bias, not ours.

It's not just hers.

I'm not mad, though. I honestly don't understand the amount of energy people are putting into "Thou must use proper grammar and spell correctly" but hey that's their energy, not mine.

I didn't know about those alternatives to MS Office, either. Guess that makes me unintelligent, too, in others' eyes but that's perfectly fine with me.

You think it's classist? Because that what is the accusation is.......

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That groundwork laid-when everyone communicates in one way, in accordance with standard recognized protocols, it is arrogant, rude and presumptive to act in a different fashion.

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Because it's childish and unrealistic to expect the world to conform with any one individuals wants/needs/desires-face it folks, you just ain't that important.

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It's on the writer to conform to accepted standards. Failure to do so is disrespectful, thoughtless and flat out stupid.

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But that's just my humble opinion and all.

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: imdmb

sorry, i am, but growing up how i did, this post struck me as classist, i dont think thats how you meant it but i saw red and im having a pretty hard time letting this one go

Well, then that's your bias, not ours.

It's not just hers.

I'm not mad, though. I honestly don't understand the amount of energy people are putting into "Thou must use proper grammar and spell correctly" but hey that's their energy, not mine.

I didn't know about those alternatives to MS Office, either. Guess that makes me unintelligent, too, in others' eyes but that's perfectly fine with me.

You think it's classist? Because that what is the accusation is.......

seeing as you quoted the post where i explained what i found to be classist, you should know exactly what i found classist, or maby you just didnt read what i had put in bold after calling it a classist view of saying "buy my stuff or you dont get internet"

read my entire post, you know, the one you quoted a part of, yeah read the rest of that one

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
. I'm reading these thinking about my brother, who for the life of him can't seem to differentiate your/you're and there/their/they're, and he can't spell for shit, but you know, his priorities have been helping addicted youths on the streets - getting them food and clothes and help. And pretty much helping the down and out find their way to a healthy life again. He really doesn't give a shit about what spell-checker/grammar-checkers are out there, free or otherwise. But he *has* been told he was dumb all his life, which is a damn shame because the things he values.....well I could only hope to emulate. Thank God his wife, an English major no less, thinks he rocks her world because of the man he is.

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
. I'm reading these thinking about my brother, who for the life of him can't seem to differentiate your/you're and there/their/they're, and he can't spell for shit, but you know, his priorities have been helping addicted youths on the streets - getting them food and clothes and help. And pretty much helping the down and out find their way to a healthy life again. He really doesn't give a shit about what spell-checker/grammar-checkers are out there, free or otherwise. But he *has* been told he was dumb all his life, which is a damn shame because the things he values.....well I could only hope to emulate. Thank God his wife, an English major no less, thinks he rocks her world because of the man he is.

That a very good point. However, was he looking for a spouse in venue where men outnumber women and where typed conversation was the method of communication?

Here's the thing for me: I don't judge intelligence on strict grammar or spelling. But I am going to look to see about effort and caring about how you present yourself. To me making that effort is the same as leaving the house in clean clothes. On an internet dating site, your profile is the equivalent of what you wear to a job interview.

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So let's see.
Let's start with the basics.
Language exists so that people can transmit ideas from one to another.
Language has rules so that communication can be clear, unfiltered and understood with clarity by all parties.
Said rules are understood to be the basis for communicating in said language. Thus, it is on the writer to make sure that they follow the rules, that communication be clear, concise and comprehensible.
And it is understood that the rules are for all-thus communication remains consistent between groups of people from different places and backgrounds. This aids both efficiency and effectiveness of said communications.

That groundwork laid-when everyone communicates in one way, in accordance with standard recognized protocols, it is arrogant, rude and presumptive to act in a different fashion.
Why?
Because it's childish and unrealistic to expect the world to conform with any one individuals wants/needs/desires-face it folks, you just ain't that important. In fact, it's the exact opposite. It's on the writer to conform to accepted standards. Failure to do so is disrespectful, thoughtless and flat out stupid.
It's kinda like showing up a party and speaking Klingon, then getting pissed when nobody understands you or wants to talk.
So tell me again, how exactly is it classist or any form of elitism to expect someone to post in proper English?

I would argue that failure to do so says that the person either:
1-Doesn't give a shit at all, which wouldn't be attractive in a dominant.
2-Could give a shit about details, which is telling because, well, let's face it, life is in the details. In fact, there are few, if any, big things in life at all, big things are just a bunch of little things all put together. And this is important in BDSM and domination because details can be such things as checking her hands to make sure she's still getting bloodflow...or knowing where to strike and, far more importantly, where not to strike on a body. Details can be fatal in TTTWD
3-Has zero idea how important first impressions can be, and how much other folks judge based on such things.
4-Is absolutely clueless.
5-Is hopelessly lazy or spoiled. I mean really, if you were asking out Angelina Jolie, you'd take the time to shave, put on a fresh shirt, maybe slap some cologne on. This is the internet equivalent thereof and making good first impressions.
or
6-Maybe, just maybe, they are really posting from somewhere in Zaire and they ain't really that hot all-American blonde 22 year old they claim to be.

And don't come crying to me about cost. There are way way too many free programs out there, it's simple as snot to hack a copy of Word or something similar, and lets face it, if your life is so FUBAR that you can't afford Word or to take the two seconds to manually spell-check your writing, maybe just maybe you should be getting your life in order before trying to run anothers.
You know, that archaic idea that before one Masters someone else, one should Master themselves.Wild idea I know, a dominant whose life is in order. Crazy shit. Hell, I think I'm starting to babble.

But that's just my humble opinion and all.
You wacky folks keep writing in text speak and improper language, then keep popping up here posting why they can't meet gals...and they wonder why.
1+1=2.
Not 3. Not 5. Not 7. 2...as in T...W...O.Two.
See, that's not so hard now, is it?
Is it?

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And by the posts in this thread, that would include those with disabilities, and those who do not speak English as their first language.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

My oldest has multiple emotional and learning disabilities. Although entitled to various accommodations by the law, she's never used them. She competes on a level playing field. And that includes using spell check and grammar check to help level the field.