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Owner59 -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 8:20:51 AM)
Living alone is a pure luxury....IMHO. Finding roomies that leave you alone, don`t screw for rent or eat your food is truly a blessing. One thing I like about the OP is the can do attitude.

tazzygirl -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 8:29:19 AM)
You see can do... I see bullshit and judgmental attitude... all in the perception [:D]

GreedyTop -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 8:39:28 AM)
I can see both sides of the previous posts (Owner and Tazzy). GREAT "can do" attitude, IF the OP isn't full of shit. I'm on the fence about that.

Owner59 -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 8:44:18 AM)
She`ll learn the realities soon enough.....ain`t nut`n gonna stop that. I agree a little more humility would help.[:D]

GreedyTop -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 8:46:52 AM)
yup. ETA: instead of bragging about her situation (which is how it came across to ME), I would suggest to her that she use that "largesse" to help those less fortunate, if only by working in a soup kitchen, volunteering at Habitat for HUmanity, etc. and also shitcanning the "beter than some" attitude. There but for the grace of god and all that...

Moonhead -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 9:10:36 AM)
Word.

KaleidoKenlyn -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 11:47:28 AM)
quote: Then my daughter has a car that she paid cash for but she works 45 minutes each way so she fills her tank about 2-3 days a week. That's not cheap and then there are the repairs she has to make to it and the tires need replaced. Then she has two cats to care for, food to buy, college books, medical bills that her insurance doesn't pay or only pays only so much, furnishings for her place, cable and internet. She is barely scraping by and the only thing I pay for is her cell phone and that's only until she finishes college and gets a better paying job. So just wait until you're in the real world and you have children, real rent, real bills to pay, college loans and you're only making minimum wage and you are not eligible for food stamps or welfare because you make JUST over the line. Then get back to us. I've been in very similar situations. As I've tried to make it clear before. Well,I haven't tried for gov't assistance. But I've been in a posistion where other people and animals depended on me and I could barely scrape by. Kudos to your daughter for sure. quote: you are 22.... I would guess never majorly sick, or if you were, mommy and daddy paid for it. Hiding your profile wont change your age... or your experience. My parents never helped me out with one goddamned thing. I moved out of my mom's house when I was 15 and the place I moved in to expected me to pay rent. I have always had roommates, yeah. But I've never had help from the parents. I hid my profile because my guy and I agreed to both do it. He's not comfortable with the mail that I receive and I feel the same about him. quote: She`ll learn the realities soon enough.....ain`t nut`n gonna stop that. I agree a little more humility would help.[:D] I do feel like I shoud apologize here. I am super sorry if I came off as arrogant. That's not how this was supposed to be. When I started the thread, I certainly wasn't trying to come off that way. Once people started questioning me, that is when I know I did get a kind of horrible air about me and I definitely will try to keep that in check in the future. quote: I would suggest to her that she use that "largesse" to help those less fortunate, if only by working in a soup kitchen, volunteering at Habitat for HUmanity, etc. I volunteer once a week at a soup kitchen. I SHOULD do it more. I know that doesn't sound like much time spent over there. I think there's only two or three girls down there who go in less than I do, and that's a bit pathetic. But it seems like I never have the time. :/ And finally, I can't even remember how many times I was asked where I live, because of how much my rent is. I live in Southeastern New Mexico. I apologize here, when I don't say the actual town, but I am the only Kenlyn here. It's a pretty small town. And up until yesterday, the place I work at was listed on my profile. Simply put, I would be really easy to track down and I don't really want that to happen. The average rent here is 450 for a one bedroom. Most two bedrooms and beyond start out at 650 and move up from there. I even heard of one two bedroom costing 1750. I was lucky (or not, depending on how you see it) to find a place for only 250 a month. There's plenty of down sides. It's in the absolute worst part of town. Last week, I had my front door open, cause I didn't want to run the air conditiner and I was trying to draw a nonexistent breeze. Our tweaker neighbor just waltzed in and headed to the kitchen. I followed and asked WTH he was doing, and he pulled out a crack pipe (may have been some other kind of pipe, I really don't know) and said he needed to borrow my stove to clean it. Police are called to our street almost every night. So yeah, the price is nice, if you can deal with what comes along with it. I can, because I make it a point never to be here.. Or be here as little as possible anyway. Sorry for how long this got. Didn't mean for that to happen.

GreedyTop -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:06:34 PM)
fact is, kiddo, you still need a reality check. I pay 500 p/mo for rent in a depressed neighborhood. WHY? partly because of stupid decisions I made when I was your age, mostly because shit happens. Did I expect to need emergency medical care when I was in my 30s (and long beyond coverage under my Dad's insurance)? Fuck no. Did I expect that the job I had would be "downsized"? fuck no. Did what I was earning prior to all of that (and more) combined with my "I'm in my 20s and I will live like that" (or whatever it was you said) make me aware of the realities of me living on my own? FUCK to the hell no!! Quit preaching to those who are older than you and have had the nasty realities of life bite them in the ass. And FFS, do NOT preach your better than some creedo to those your own age. there are enough 'entitled' twits as it is. and on that note, I am taking my Supreme Goddess of Snark ass to bed, because I have to work full time in order to make ends meet WITHOUT A ROOMMATE.

KaleidoKenlyn -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:19:29 PM)
I really don't think there was any reason to be that nasty. I have no idea what has happened throughout your life. It very well could be that my broad generalizations are completely off-base with some people and you could be one of them. But I wasn't being rude and pointing a finger directly at you. I'd appreciate it if you could do the same.

Musicmystery -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:24:02 PM)
KK, you made a sweeping claim that revealed only that you are young and not yet experienced enough to understand what you're saying. Yeah, I know you don't want to hear that. Yes, I think people are jumping on you a little hard. But they're also right. Give it up. There's a whole list of things from insurance to clothing to food to emergencies that you've not accounted for, and not matter how you've coped with it so far, it's still not going to support the limb you've climbed out on. Life is more complicated than you know; in time you will know. Prolonging this will only prolong the agony. Let it go.

GreedyTop -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:27:31 PM)
I'm not pointing a finger AT you. I am pointing out that, at your age, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what may be in store for you. WHat has happened to me could very well happen to you. It might not, and I hope for your naive selfs sake that it doesn't. but odds are that at some point you will have to deal with some sort of "catastrophe" that will bring you to the reality that those of us who have long since PASSED your age group have recognized: life as you know it NOW does not in any way resemble life as you will live it in 5-10-15-20 years from now.

KaleidoKenlyn -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:38:16 PM)
quote: KK, you made a sweeping claim that revealed only that you are young and not yet experienced enough to understand what you're saying. Yeah, I know you don't want to hear that. Yes, I think people are jumping on you a little hard. But they're also right. Give it up. There's a whole list of things from insurance to clothing to food to emergencies that you've not accounted for, and not matter how you've coped with it so far, it's still not going to support the limb you've climbed out on. Life is more complicated than you know; in time you will know. Prolonging this will only prolong the agony. Let it go. My sweeping claim was that it's not the United States government's responsiblity to make sure that every one has every thing they need. It wasn't that life isn't hard. It wasn't that people don't have anything to complain about ever. It was that the blame doesn't go to the powers that be. quote: I'm not pointing a finger AT you. I am pointing out that, at your age, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what may be in store for you. WHat has happened to me could very well happen to you. It might not, and I hope for your naive selfs sake that it doesn't. but odds are that at some point you will have to deal with some sort of "catastrophe" that will bring you to the reality that those of us who have long since PASSED your age group have recognized: life as you know it NOW does not in any way resemble life as you will live it in 5-10-15-20 years from now. You're completely right. Life goes on and I will experience things I cannot possibly imagine. I can only hope I am able to keep the outlook I have now.

GreedyTop -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:41:51 PM)
Good luck.

TNDommeK -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:42:34 PM)
She is a keeper though, she handles snark very well and I think her manners are something to be spoken for here, especially here with us,lol. Grant it she may not know what lies ahead, and yes, it is going to only get tougher, that's life..always kickin when you are down. But I think with her "can do" attitude, she seems like a someone who gets up and dusts herself off. I just hope she can take a hard punch, so to speak.

tazzygirl -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 12:52:25 PM)
quote: You're completely right. Life goes on and I will experience things I cannot possibly imagine. I can only hope I am able to keep the outlook I have now. And yet you are preaching to those who can not only imagine it, but have lived it. quote: My sweeping claim was that it's not the United States government's responsiblity to make sure that every one has every thing they need. Millions of people did as you have done... they went to work, saved their pennies, invested wisely, and cut costs... and they still had the rug pulled out from under them. Thats what people are 'whining' about. Come back in 25 years and tell me all the wisdom you have gained. For now, yes, I take great exception at your better-than-most comment. At 22, I was raising a child, paying all my own bills, buying my first home... and all on my own. Find another crowd to preach at... no one here is buying your bs.

smartsub10 -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 1:06:42 PM)
Huh. Let's see. At age 22 I'm sure you are in the bloom of excellent health. Also, judging from your posts I am assuming you don't work full time so probably don't have health insurance. Bah, who needs it at age 22, right? So, what happens if you are horribly injured in a freak accident? Or get an attack of appendicitis? I guess you have tens of thousands of dollars stashed away so you can pay for the major medical care you would need since you frown upon Uncle Sam helping out.

KaleidoKenlyn -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 1:22:49 PM)
I think it is well past the time when I should take my leave. I'd say it was a pleasure, but I would be lying just a little bit. I will say it was an experience. xD Flame Responsibly. quote: She is a keeper though, she handles snark very well and I think her manners are something to be spoken for here, especially here with us,lol. Grant it she may not know what lies ahead, and yes, it is going to only get tougher, that's life..always kickin when you are down. But I think with her "can do" attitude, she seems like a someone who gets up and dusts herself off. I just hope she can take a hard punch, so to speak Thank you :)

angelikaJ -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 2:32:11 PM)
KK, I don't know if you will read this or not. This is not supposed to be a "You don't know what you are talking about." rant, so if it comes across that way, I apologise in advance. Something that I think you might be forgetting is that many people don't live in the kind of area that you live in (with the very low rent that you have). Many people live in big cities with exorbitant rent, and the places within those cities with more affordable rent make where you are living seem like Disneyland, and it still isn't cheap. Many people live in areas with much higher water and utility bills. Once upon a time, I lived in a place where the cost of living was supposed to be reasonable. Wages were low and even though FL was supposed to be a cheap place to live, most people needed to either have the luck of being completely single (no dependents), be a two income family or work 2 and often 3 jobs to make ends meet. So, your attitude about being wholly self-sufficient is not wrong, per se, but it is coming from a place of youth and less experience.

littlewonder -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 2:42:58 PM)
I think it's interesting that she ducked out when the question of health care and Uncle Sam came up and she didn't respond to it.

JstAnotherSub -> RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. (7/1/2012 3:43:05 PM)
I think she is probably an ok kid, but, to throw out a bomb like she did in this thread, then to make a comment like "Flame Responsibly" and leave, shows her youth. The good thing about youth though, ya don't know how little you really do know, until you get older, and then you realize you still don't know shit! OP, if you have, in fact, used your real name on here, please change that. There are really crazy folks on the interwebz, some of which have crazy skills that are not always used for good. I hope you never ever need help from anyone, but, sometimes actually asking for help takes more guts than just suffering because of some preconceived notion of pride.

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