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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/15/2012 5:02:58 AM

Mupainurpleasure

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You do understand half the poverty level is 5500.00 a year. I really must say hats off for your ability to keep a home, furnish a home, eat and pay all your bills on 106 dollars a week and no doubt you refuse to take food stamps too........ So, does your boyfriend make 50k or do you live in your parent's cellar or do you have no idea what the poverty leavel is?

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/15/2012 5:30:44 AM

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Mupainurpleasure, this chicka has beat a hasty retreat from collarchat and possibly collarme. I'm pretty certain she doesn't read the boards any longer.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/15/2012 5:30:00 PM

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If you took my yearly salary and doubled it, I would still be considered "poverty." However, I still pay all of my bills by myself. I've fully furnished several homes since turning 18. I've traveled fairly well and fairly regularly. Never to Europe, but all over the States. I've never taken a handout from my friends, my family, or the government. In fact, when someone needs money, they have a tendency to come to me first. Mostly because, I'd rather have to eat Ramen for three months straight than see someone else lose their car or house or whatever.

It is because of this, that I have a HUGE problem with people who do nothing but complain. You complain about money. You complain about taxes. You complain about extra fees at the airport. You complain about rising gas prices. You complain about the cost of your insurance, your water bill, your groceries, hell you even complain about the price of a Big Mac! And somehow it is always the government's fault.

Sweetheart, the government isn't responsible for everything ya know. And they can't fix everything. Get your priorities in order, make a damned budget for yourself, stick to it, and, for the love of God, STOP COMPLAINING! If I can make half as much as the cap for "poverty" and still be doing alright, you can too.

YOU, my dear, are a good kid.

There is hope.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/16/2012 7:55:35 AM

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This is better, no creepy thoughts of old men wanking.

He appears to be in good health.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/16/2012 8:09:30 AM

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...except for medicare, and its drug benefit, plus soc. sec and any other govt. programs this pictured man is likely enjoying.

Oh yes, but otherwise, he can 'stimulate' himself alright.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/16/2012 8:13:04 AM

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This is better, no creepy thoughts of old men wanking. Lol.

You're no fun at all, are you? *Daydreams of creepy old men wanking* .. .. .. ... .. *Drools on self*

Wait a minute now. Wanking is one thing but why is it they are 'creepy ?'

I've known a few old men in my life and they were pretty cool.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/16/2012 9:11:41 AM

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kalikshama, I love how my original post was about people who complain about things, and all you've done is post pictures of people holding signs, in which they are bitching.

I wonder what would have happened if our founding fathers didn't 'complain' about the King, his taxes and America being disallowed from presenting their case in Parliament.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/16/2012 9:25:45 AM

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The average rent here is 450 for a one bedroom. Most two bedrooms and beyond start out at 650 and move up from there. I even heard of one two bedroom costing 1750. I was lucky (or not, depending on how you see it) to find a place for only 250 a month. There's plenty of down sides.
Sorry for how long this got. Didn't mean for that to happen.

Kiddo, trust me, that is utility money where I am from.

Govt. assisted, 1 bedroom apt. nearby is over $1,000/mo and you cannot earn more than $14/hr. Do the math. Now add in a car, gas, food, clothing, insurance...not to mention power, phone, cable...Internet, You get the idea.

I am thinking you live in a very low cost-of-living area or at least much lower than where I am from.

In America it isn't how much is it ? It's how much do you make ? The more you make, the more it costs you...they want it all girl.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/17/2012 3:54:23 AM

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yup.

ETA: instead of bragging about her situation (which is how it came across to ME), I would suggest to her that she use that "largesse" to help those less fortunate, if only by working in a soup kitchen, volunteering at Habitat for HUmanity, etc.

and also shitcanning the "beter than some" attitude. There but for the grace of god and all that...

Not how it came across to me, not at all. It only comes across that way to losers in life, as witnessed by all the loser antagonistic responses in this thread. I certainly did not make the best choices in life on every occasion, but if I were as bitter about the inevitable wrong choices as all the respondents here seem to be, a simple gun to the head would save others the spouted vitriol so vividly and effusively on display here.

I find commiseration in much of what she (the OP) said, some pertinent details of which only those who have been there would know. It apparently escaped notice to the audience, but she has insufficient funds for charity, and by my own experience in poverty, limited time for charitable labor in pursuit of what others in 'society' accept as 'worthy.'

I was too busy taking the live-in nephews and nieces into the back yard and then to the public park and to the library, etc., to have enough time for what YOU (generally speaking, not you personally) might consider as 'acceptable' or 'responsible' input to society. Before that, I lent bed or couch, along with breakfast, to some who were 'worthy' and more than a few who were not. That's how some of us learn. So sorry, 'Habitat,' I was too f*cking busy elsewhere, and harder at it than you laughing and chuckling f*ckwits ever were about anything actually useful. That's just how it is. Vacuuming out my sister's flooded basement in her new house took precedence. I'm socially irresponsible in that way.

Some need to have their 'charity' far and remote from anything at all personal, and verified by third parties, before a finger is lifted. After that, all done at their own convenience, no actual imposition, please.

Sucks to be you, sucks to be me, etc.

BTW, minimum tax reporting requirements and poverty level are NOT one and the same thing, however much some self-adorned econ 'expert' confuses and comically conflates the two entirely different situations.

PS

A quick stab on Craigslist in several cities will display several rentals for less than $500 or even $400.

You people completely suck.

Kaleido K completely rocks.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/19/2012 5:27:32 PM

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Major thanks to Edwynn for the kind words. That was incredibly nice of you. :)

There's been a few things I've been wanting to address, if I may:

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Mupainurpleasure, this chicka has beat a hasty retreat from collarchat and possibly collarme. I'm pretty certain she doesn't read the boards any longer.

I didn't leave CM at all. I've just hidden my profile because I decided to only get on for the forums anymore. I met someone great and don't have any particular interest the kind of mail I generally recieve. And I only left this forum because the flame war was much too hot for me.

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If your rent is only 250 for two people... dont ever move.

Your bills are not even remotely reality based.

Hahahahaha... kids.

I dunno. We bought a small apartment building a few years ago that we're paying $1100 a month on. (4 apartments, each with 2 bedrooms, bath, etc). We're renting out 2 of our apartments for 250-300 a month.

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Oh! Slum lord?

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Not at all. These are nice apartments.

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Oh, I'm sure. Especially renting them out for enough money to barely cover your mortgage payments? Pfffft.

Whoa there. Calm the fuck down!

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Complaining is one of the things we get to do in a free society. As you've said yourself, people should stand up and be counted when they see something wrong.

Would you write Martin Luther King off as a whining little tosspot?

What about the people that fought for equal pay for women? Are they just despicable whiners?

When you talk about complaining about Taxes... surely that's a part of the political process.

Or is your objection simply to people's complaints that differ from your own?

Of course people have every right to complain and should. It bothers me when that's all people do. It bothers me when it's never their own fault. And it especially bothers me when, because they won't take responsiblity for how their lives turned out, they blame the government or society in general. That is the point I was trying to make. Not that people should never complain, ever, about anything.

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OP, if you have, in fact, used your real name on here, please change that. There are really crazy folks on the interwebz, some of which have crazy skills that are not always used for good.

I considered it once, but once you choose a name on CM it can't be changed. I wouldn't do it anymore anyway. I like my screen name and wouldn't be able to think of anything else. I know that there are psychos on the inets and I'm quite sure that it's incredibly stupid of me to not be afraid of them, but I'm not. C'est la vie!

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/20/2012 3:28:59 AM

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Whoa there. Calm the fuck down!

Gee, I was thinking of suggesting that to you, except without "the fuck", since I find gratuitous use of foul language disrespectful.

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ORIGINAL: KaleidoKenlyn

I considered it once, but once you choose a name on CM it can't be changed. I wouldn't do it anymore anyway. I like my screen name and wouldn't be able to think of anything else. I know that there are psychos on the inets and I'm quite sure that it's incredibly stupid of me to not be afraid of them, but I'm not. C'est la vie!

That's life? Maybe your life to be "incredibly stupid", (to use your words), but not everyone else's.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 7/20/2012 7:30:23 AM

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Gee, I was thinking of suggesting that to you, except without "the fuck", since I find gratuitous use of foul language disrespectful.

No worries. You've pretty much got the rude thing down without cursing.

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RE: It's not THEIR job. It's yours. - 8/5/2012 11:17:32 AM

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KK,
I don't know if you will read this or not.

This is not supposed to be a "You don't know what you are talking about." rant, so if it comes across that way, I apologise in advance.

Something that I think you might be forgetting is that many people don't live in the kind of area that you live in (with the very low rent that you have). Many people live in big cities with exorbitant rent, and the places within those cities with more affordable rent make where you are living seem like Disneyland, and it still isn't cheap.
Many people live in areas with much higher water and utility bills.

Once upon a time, I lived in a place where the cost of living was supposed to be reasonable.
Wages were low and even though FL was supposed to be a cheap place to live, most people needed to either have the luck of being completely single (no dependents), be a two income family or work 2 and often 3 jobs to make ends meet.

So, your attitude about being wholly self-sufficient is not wrong, per se, but it is coming from a place of youth and less experience.

Yeah, definitely. It's easy to talk about how you can totally live on $500/month, if you're single and childless and healthy and live in an incredibly dirt-cheap area where apparently you don't need car insurance. It's still a tough life, but I guess it's doable. But for a lot of people, it's not. There's nowhere where I live where you could live for that without a huge amount of government assistance. And even then probably not.

Just for some perspective: a buddy of mine used to share a 3-bedroom apartment (in an iffy neighborhood out here in the exurbs) with 7 other people and was still paying like $250/month.

ETA: Also, again, medical bills, kids, etc. If I didn't get state-subsidized health insurance (for $217/month), I'd need to pay close to $500/month on medical expenses alone.

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