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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/8/2006 7:53:58 PM

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Isn't it Zarqawi? Why do people keep saying Zarqaqi?

Brain-finger disconnect. :-P

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/8/2006 8:13:00 PM

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It is virginians not virgins. hopefully he will get some of our fore fathers at the meet n greet :

Now that is a dish worth serving in the cold dark void of space!!

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/8/2006 11:17:50 PM

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Heh... guess he learned how to play catch with the Air Force...

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 4:33:09 AM

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Hmmmm midterm elections coming up, gay marriage, winning the war on terror.....
Who will be the new head boogyman for us all to fear? Osama seems to be runner up now in American Fear Idol. Is terrorism moving up or down the leading causes of death? I know it used to be way below drowning not long ago.
Consider how little a death of most lead characters in politics, business etc actually changes things. In the scattered celluar, bizarre world of terrorists, it likey means little dissruption. It won't be solved with bombs from either side.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 4:36:22 AM

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Hmm maybe just maybe this can't be a Bush conspiracy, after all Zarqawi wasn't the main target at the house that was bombed... Thats right folks, he was collateral damage, and not the main target of the Air Force.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 4:49:37 AM

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Hmm maybe just maybe this can't be a Bush conspiracy, after all Zarqawi wasn't the main target at the house that was bombed... Thats right folks, he was collateral damage, and not the main target of the Air Force.

Who was the target?
Was Al Frankin in Iraq? Some commie hollywood star? A french person? Do they think Daily Show Iraq reporters are really there?
hehehehhe

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:25:45 AM

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Well, at least we know it wasn't the vice-president that shot the missiles.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:28:56 AM

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Who was the target?
Was Al Frankin in Iraq? Some commie hollywood star? A french person? Do they think Daily Show Iraq reporters are really there?
hehehehhe

Sheik Abd-al-Rahman, with hopes that Zarqawi would be close, because they were often seen close together.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:32:16 AM

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Wasn't that a wierd news clip of Rumsfeld announcing Zarqawi getting snuffed? I though he was going to cry. I think he will truly miss him. Who's the new boogyman? sob!?!?

Disclaimer: The portion of the clip I saw on the Daily Show.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:38:00 AM

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The one thing that seems to be missed is that apparently six innocent people got killed in the blast (according to American military sources). If I was one of the relatives one of those six innocent people I think I would be buying myself a Klasnikov this morning.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:45:59 AM

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The one thing that seems to be missed is that apparently six innocent people got killed in the blast (according to American military sources). If I was one of the relatives one of those six innocent people I think I would be buying myself a Klasnikov this morning.

I question all the numbers of terrorists/insurgents etc that are claimed in operations. Definitions of enemy combatants can be extremely broad. It may not be as bad as the bombings in past wars. But still terribly high. Iraq has been a horrible civilian death toll, especially when you consider it was invaded pre emptively, having not attacked the US. And at some points being called a liberation invasion. Iraq will echoe with revenge for a long time.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 7:33:57 AM

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G'morning all:

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Couldn't have happened to a lovelier bunch of cretins. It's only scratching the surface though. I bet his countrymen will view him as a martyr. What we need to do is slay the ideology behind the culture. Western civilization (I use that term loosely.) is viewed as the devil in many nations. When we can change that, then we can rest easier.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 12:00:47 PM

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The Only truly innocent in that house was the child the rest were adults, zarqawi's spiritual advisor & the three women knew exactly who he was & that he was being hunted, Sheesh quit being a bleeding heart...

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 12:34:26 PM

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Well despite whom takes the credit, if this was the guy behind 9-11, I am all for his demise!

If something or someone is good -for the American way of life- I aplaud that.

[I am well aware that timing and manipulation of the masses occurs]

Let the bastard rot in peace.

Thank you Bush! \(tho) [im sure Kerry would have gotten him too..]

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 1:08:13 PM

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The Only truly innocent in that house was the child the rest were adults, zarqawi's spiritual advisor & the three women knew exactly who he was & that he was being hunted, Sheesh quit being a bleeding heart...

So killing innocent children is acceptable?

What the hell are we doing in Iraq if that is the case?

When John Bolton was questioned about it on European TV he had no problem in accepting six innocent people were killed.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 4:43:38 PM

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Listening to the News reports tonight I found that I was in Error in that there were no Children at that safehouse...
Even had there been they'd have been acceptable collateral damage...
How many Innocent Men, Women & Children were killed on his orders by his underlings & suicide bombers???
Sometimes One has to take the shot when you have it, this was a Fanatical, Brutal, Sick asshole who had to be taken off the count!!!
I'd rather think of all the Iraqi Civilians & U.S. Soldiers that are a bit safer because of his demise, I hope that the insurgents become demoralized & the common Iraqis feel empowered & embrace Peace & the Democratic Process...

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 4:52:52 PM

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So killing innocent children is acceptable?

What the hell are we doing in Iraq if that is the case?

When John Bolton was questioned about it on European TV he had no problem in accepting six innocent people were killed.

Innocent? give me a bleedin heart fucking break, no one in the house was innocent, they were there to plan future attacks against the true innocent victims here, the Iraqi people.

Michael Savage is right, Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:01:50 PM

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Listening to the News reports tonight I found that I was in Error in that there were no Children at that safehouse...
Even had there been they'd have been acceptable collateral damage...
How many Innocent Men, Women & Children were killed on his orders by his underlings & suicide bombers???
Sometimes One has to take the shot when you have it, this was a Fanatical, Brutal, Sick asshole who had to be taken off the count!!!
I'd rather think of all the Iraqi Civilians & U.S. Soldiers that are a bit safer because of his demise, I hope that the insurgents become demoralized & the common Iraqis feel empowered & embrace Peace & the Democratic Process...

Two five hundred pound bombs and fuck any innocents that get in the way as long as one of the dead is the right one?

To the relatives of the dead do you think it makes any difference who killed their loved ones, al-zarqaqi or the Americans or who ever else. The whole point we were told of invading Iraq was to liberate people not murder them or am I so naive?

While his death might be welcome, some might say it is at too high a price if innocent lives are taken because his death won't stop the insurgency because a lot of the insurgency has nothing to do with him.

If innocent lives are happily being taken then the US, Britain and everybody else shouldn't be there.

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:34:02 PM

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Listening to the News reports tonight I found that I was in Error in that there were no Children at that safehouse...
Even had there been they'd have been acceptable collateral damage...
How many Innocent Men, Women & Children were killed on his orders by his underlings & suicide bombers???
Sometimes One has to take the shot when you have it, this was a Fanatical, Brutal, Sick asshole who had to be taken off the count!!!
I'd rather think of all the Iraqi Civilians & U.S. Soldiers that are a bit safer because of his demise, I hope that the insurgents become demoralized & the common Iraqis feel empowered & embrace Peace & the Democratic Process...

Two five hundred pound bombs and fuck any innocents that get in the way as long as one of the dead is the right one?

To the relatives of the dead do you think it makes any difference who killed their loved ones, al-zarqaqi or the Americans or who ever else. The whole point we were told of invading Iraq was to liberate people not murder them or am I so naive?

While his death might be welcome, some might say it is at too high a price if innocent lives are taken because his death won't stop the insurgency because a lot of the insurgency has nothing to do with him.

If innocent lives are happily being taken then the US, Britain and everybody else shouldn't be there.

Thinks you just want to argue for arguments sake Well have at it by yourself...

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RE: al-Zarqaqi killed in Iraq - 6/9/2006 5:34:50 PM

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Two five hundred pound bombs and fuck any innocents that get in the way as long as one of the dead is the right one?

To the relatives of the dead do you think it makes any difference who killed their loved ones, al-zarqaqi or the Americans or who ever else. The whole point we were told of invading Iraq was to liberate people not murder them or am I so naive?

While his death might be welcome, some might say it is at too high a price if innocent lives are taken because his death won't stop the insurgency because a lot of the insurgency has nothing to do with him.

If innocent lives are happily being taken then the US, Britain and everybody else shouldn't be there.

While I agree strongly we should never have invaded and should get out as fast as possible, from a tactical point of view, I gotta go along with the commander on the ground here.

My men were valuable both to me and to this nation. To me, because of the bond we had built up both in combat and in training and to this nation because of the substantial amount of money it had invested in training them.

Given this situation, I was always open to approaches that would allow me to accomplish my mission without undue risk to my men. In my day, I probably would have surrounded the place with interlocking fields of fire and called in 81mm mortars. The options today are richer and a laser guided bomb would have been my approach too.

Of course, we could have made a dynamic entry and sorted out the sheep from the goats, but I'm pretty sure, given that group, I would have lost a few men (I'd have a good chance of getting killed myself, but that's further down the prorities).

As to innocent lives, one does not become a "guilty life" by putting on a uniform. Those guys in the boxes with the flags over them are innocent lives too.

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