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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 2:08:50 PM   
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Having been born in the 50s there are some things that were taken for granted by a white middle class family. Meaning black day servants who did all the scut work in the house and child care. This allowed the white woman a chance to change into pretty clothes and keep her hair and nails in good shape.

If you're doing dishes by hand three times a day, your make up will melt, and your nails will be hopeless.

And the black women certainly didn't go home to do this for their husbands. Instead, they went home to high rates of spousal abuse because the women were the only ones working.

Remember folks, it wasn't until the 80s that law enforcement agreed that there was such a thing as marital rape. Prior to that, it wasn't a crime. No matter how battered or bruised you were.

I always find it funny when some young kid trots this shit out with zero understanding of how it worked. And yes, my mother eventually couldn't close her eyes to being cheated on regularly despite use of valium and vodka. My father never did understand why she divorced him. Being honorable was a business concept to him, not something that happened at home.

"Saint abroad, devil at home" was the adage for too many families.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 2:37:44 PM   
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Not sure where you grew up, but my parents were "white middle class" married folks of the 50s and neither them or any of their friends had the black cleaning lady taking care of the house all day.  That was more of an "upper class" thing. 

Women wore rubber gloves to do the dishes, went to the hair salon once a week to get their hair done and took a shower and put on something nice before their husbands came home from work.  And actually, considering my parents were able to hire an architect to design and build their first home, I would say my family qualified as upper class in that time frame and still, never did we have a cleaning lady.  This was real life, not "The Help."

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 2:46:58 PM   
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Where the 'southern' part of my maternal family lived, they did.......it was cheap help. Sadly. And a different cultural norm.

Where the 'northern' part of my family lived, the only hired help was seasonal farm hands.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 2:50:19 PM   
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I grew up in a solid middle class white neighborhood in NYC. Every day help, no. But once or twice a week to scrub toilets and tubs and kitchen floors, not uncommon. And my family below the Mason Dixon line had it also.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 2:54:48 PM   
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It's funny how you say the media portrays. I recently bought 16 hours of retro-commericals from the 50' and 60's. I especially got a kick out of the Folger's coffee commericals with Mrs. Olsen. I vaguely remember this lady because I born in the late 60's so they must have still been running them in the 70's. Anyway some husband complains to his wife that her coffee sucks and he'd rather drink it at work. The wife nearly in tears runs to Mrs. Olsen who says that it's not HOW she makes her coffee it's because she doesn't use the MOUNTAIN GROWN kind and to use Folgers. Of course, she tries Folgers and the husband is happy. It makes me laugh because these wives are tripping all over themselves to make the perfect cup of coffee and the husbands are really down right rude with their insults about the coffee.

Fastforward to now, if some husband said he would rather have coffee at the office, the nicest thing that would happen from most wives would be to say, "Fine drink it at the office!" More bolder, overstressed women who work 40 hours a week, juggle a household and are raising a peck of children would probably toss the coffee pot at his head and say, "Make it yourself then asshat!"

It makes me wonder though, how many women really did toss the pot at his head and NOT run off to Mrs. Oleson back then!


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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 2:58:42 PM   
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Using fast reply.

For the longest time, I said I was a terrible military wife. I knew very little.

So, by your standards, this is what defines Me?

Are you quite so sure?

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 4:57:08 PM   
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Well god damn... Now, you all know what made me the woman I am! ROFL!

Angry? Bitter? Been through a bad man and baggage? No friggin way am I letting a bad man or experience change me in ways I do not approve of... but never going there again. I will sip from my life of laughter and peace and never be a good wife again. Thank you very much. That deal was so not worth it! I found that a good wife often enables a very bad man.

Consent to it... all good, but because one wouldn't, doesn't mean she is angry, bitter, carrying baggage or is bad.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 5:22:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I found this on the net somewhere, can't
remember where.
I think the person said its from a actual guide
for new wives in the 1950's or something similar.
I can just picture them handing this type of stuff
out to girls in school after baking class haha.

-ARIES

"THE GOOD WIFE'S GUIDE"

1. Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a 
delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting 
him know that you have be thinking about him and are concerned about his 
needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a 
good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed 
when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be 
fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.

3. Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.

4. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of 
the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the 
table.

5. During the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a 
fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven 
of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering 
to his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.

6. Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise 
of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet.

7. Be happy to see him.

8. Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.

9. Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, 
but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - 
remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.

10. Don't greet him with complaints and problems.

11. Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out all 
night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through 
at work.

12. Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or 
lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.

13. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.

14. Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment 
or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will 
always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no 
right to question him.

15. A good wife always knows her place. 



Now THAT's what I'M talking about!

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/6/2012 11:37:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

I love threads like this.

I truly look forward to seeing replies from pessimistic man-haters with a chip on their shoulder. Women that carry their pain from some past experience, seeing them cling to bad emotional luggage like a traveler in an airport baggage claim turns me on. It's the scent of their pain that hypnotizes me like a fish staring at a shiny lure. Their lost little girl foot stamping tirades are like chum in the water for this sadistic ol' shark and I look forward to seeing the content of the OP berated in as many silly ways as possible. . . . . er . . . I mean, I truly respect independent thinking liberal women and look forward to them sharing their modern views on the antiquated concepts in the OP.

Today I started the day like a king. I woke to the the sexual affections of my girl, then I asked, "have you had your spankings yet today?" . . . she cooked breakfast while I cleared out the cross and BDSM gear from last night's needles play and she is doing dishes as I write this. In a few minutes I am going to put her in the shower and wash that girl spanky clean. I love the OP and firmly believe that if you want your partner to hold their place in a relationship, you should hold yours.

A good wife always knows her place and . . . Women: Know Your Limits!


And I love your comments haha,
I still hope we never meet in real life though...
You sound scary and evil!

-ARIES

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/8/2012 10:15:48 AM   
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We live the life described in the OP.

What often gets overlooked in discussions about this, is that there never was a magical era in which women fell to their knees for foolish, weak or inconsequential men.

If you behave like a person worthy of devotion, you will probably get it.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/8/2012 11:02:17 AM   
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This has been debunked as fake on Snopes about a million times.

I live this waited on hand and foot lifestyle (heavy on the feet).

For me, it's very endearing, but not all that hot. Service is her kink, not mine.

Still, if you have to pick a not-really-a-headache to have......

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 7:30:36 AM   
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My relationship with my sub is a " Taken in hand" approach.
I do like to 50's style but know its not reality in today's culture.
I strongly believe that both men and women or in today's culture Dom and Sub
Have a strong part to carry out for a strong relationship.
A real Dom is really the care taker of the sub and is a lot more work than people think.
I am not only to provide financial support but find ways to keep the relationship On a positive course.
It means thinking if new ideas and ways to increase the bond with your sub and the most important be
Consistent ! A true sub should just be a reaction from the Doms actions.If both the Dom and sub create actions then
Who is to react ?

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 7:32:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bandg5

First time post on this site
My relationship with my sub is a " Taken in hand" approach.
I do like to 50's style but know its not reality in today's culture.
I strongly believe that both men and women or in today's culture Dom and Sub
Have a strong part to carry out for a strong relationship.
A real Dom is really the care taker of the sub and is a lot more work than people think.
I am not only to provide financial support but find ways to keep the relationship On a positive course.
It means thinking if new ideas and ways to increase the bond with your sub and the most important be
Consistent ! A true sub should just be a reaction from the Doms actions.If both the Dom and sub create actions then
Who is to react ?


Okay. Now define "real Dom" and "true sub".


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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 8:18:20 AM   
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A true Dom in the "Taken in hand" style
Dom: a strong provider who will lead his submissive and guide her in a positive
Direction to help make her a role model for the kids and encourages her mental and physical growth
To become the the strong women she was intended to be.

Sub: To follow the direction and diciplin from your Dom/ Master and grow as a person
To be able to provide the family and Master with the mental and physical needs that are required to
Grow the relationship and or family as a strong unit. I truly believe that a women was put on earth to support
A man not because they are weaker but because they are able to be what a man is not.

These are my definitions, but I believe the stronger the sub the stronger I can be as a Dom!
My sub and I have a perfect ying and yang thing going (lol)
Our sexual needs are met during play and diciplin, I can be very aggressive but also understanding
And supportive and my sub is willing and wants to submit to my direction and desires. This type of relationship
Is not very common and I am lucky to have found such a willing submissive women. I believe that more marriages
Would last if more women And men understood each role. ( to bad we are not mArried)


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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 8:34:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bandg5
I believe that more marriages Would last if more women And men understood each role. ( to bad we are not mArried)


I believe more marriages would last if more people understood that a relationship takes effort, communication and honesty.


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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 9:23:10 AM   
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I agree that communication and honesty are first and foremost in any
Relationship, but in a true d/s relationship communication and honesty should not
Be as much of an issue because both people have committed to function within his or her perspective
Role. I hide nothing from my sub and communicate more than she can handle. I want to be her best friend and support system and
Have no reason to hide anything. If I need or want anything sexual she will do! If she needs I will provide if it is within my means.


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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 1:57:49 PM   
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quote:

I believe that more marriages Would last if more women And men understood each role. ( to bad we are not mArried)


Why aren't you married?

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/9/2012 9:30:00 PM   
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If I knew that I would have all of lifes answers then - lol
We are a new cpl and have a couple of obstacles in the way.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/10/2012 6:51:22 AM   
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I believe more marriages would last if more people understood that a relationship takes effort, communication and honesty.


I see some men being drawn to the role of Dom or Master because they think it means they can stop putting in the effort - silly them.

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RE: The good wife guide. - 7/10/2012 7:19:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

I believe more marriages would last if more people understood that a relationship takes effort, communication and honesty.


I see some men being drawn to the role of Dom or Master because they think it means they can stop putting in the effort - silly them.

Also, they think that it means that that don't need to communicate and resort to: Because I'm the Dom and I said so.

quote:

ORIGINAL: bandg5

I agree that communication and honesty are first and foremost in any
Relationship, but in a true d/s relationship communication and honesty should not
Be as much of an issue
because both people have committed to function within his or her perspective
Role. I hide nothing from my sub and communicate more than she can handle. I want to be her best friend and support system and
Have no reason to hide anything. If I need or want anything sexual she will do! If she needs I will provide if it is within my means.




I disagree. I think honesty is pivotal in a D/s relationship. I need to be able to to trust him with my life and I can't do that if he's not trustworthy because he's not honest.

I also believe that transparency adds to trust. I do not blindly trust and he wouldn't want me to. He expects me to know what is going on, have an opinion about what's going on....and then trust him to have thoroughly examined the situation to make his decision.





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