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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:04:44 AM   
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice? Shame on me. Vote for Romney. At least he lives in the real world and not in some Carl Marx socialistic world where the government promises to "distribute" income so the poor will live in the land of milk and honey. Even peasants in undeveloped countries know enough to roll their eyes when told they are going to live well once the government "distributes" money from the rich. "All you have to do to get all this is vote for us!"

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:08:33 AM   
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Considering I'm conservative and pro-self responsibility, pro-life and pro-family, I have no choice but to vote against Obama. There hasn't been anyone to vote FOR in a really long time on a national level.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:18:06 AM   
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Really? I thought the Republican party had spent most of the last thirty years fawning and grovelling to pro life and pro family sorts like yourself.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:24:32 AM   
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Obama is groveling around to extend the Bush tax cuts??? That deserves its own thread...

Leftists are going to love that...

He's been doing that since 2009. It's a major area of disagreement I have with him and House Republicans.

They were dumb then; they're dumb now. Revenue does not magically appear by cutting it.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:27:29 AM   
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice? Shame on me. Vote for Romney. At least he lives in the real world


How do you figure?

Greatly expanding the military while further slashing taxes is more of what got us here. That anyone says they're "conservative" and "voting for Romney" in the same breath is just astounding, and shows how far away from conservative ideology and fiscal responsibility today's neo-cons have come.

Sounds like you're all about being fooled twice, only more so this time.



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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:29:16 AM   
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Only for the 250k$ under group, according to the information
the gop wants all bush tax cuts extended.
Its an obvious re election thing, but there is a difference ...this time...maybe?

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:29:32 AM   
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Well yeah, but she also says "pro life" and "pro family" and those always trump conservative political values, don't they?

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:35:46 AM   
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Well yeah, but she also says "pro life" and "pro family" and those always trump conservative political values, don't they?

The GOP has been riding that horse hard for decades.

Their base is foolish enough to believe anything changes when they so vote. They're expecting Roe v. Wade to change. Meanwhile, they ignore all other issues--and every time, the GOP raid the Treasury.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 8:37:10 AM   
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Don't tell me, tell her.


(ETA) Their religious base also has the cheek to bitch that the Republican party isn't doing enough to deserve their support because abortion hasn't been banned yet, doesn't it? I think "single issue focus" is the term. Still, as you say, that keeps their minds off any other issues that might be under discussion.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 9:21:13 AM   
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Why don't libs read about the "community reinvestment act," where banks were told to give loans to minorities and people with poorer credit so they could participate in the Democrat dream of everyone should own a house! Banks did what they were told to do. Houses were sold to deadbeats, Inflated value mortgages were used to back investments. Deadbeats defaulted on mortgages, investors found 10,000 dollar dumps backing 100,000 investments. Shit hit the fan.

Root cause of the downturn. DEMOCRAT wet dream that everyone should own a house! Dems now try to pin their stupid "social justice" plan of everyone should own a house on Wall Street. Wall street just sold investments backed by Freddie and Fannnie. Its not over yet. Fannie and Freddie will need a MASSIVE bailout before this Democrat fuckup is over!

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 9:25:33 AM   
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Well, that is some pretty fantasy, by God.  The bulk of the Mortages were less than 3 years old that defaulted in this downturn.   And it was W that spearheaded that bill thru.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 9:29:53 AM   
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POLITICO Breaking News
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President Barack Obama Monday announced his effort to extend the Bush tax cuts only for people making less than $250,000 annually.

"Pass a bill extending the tax cuts for the middle class, I will sign it tomorrow. Pass it next week, I'll sign it next week," Obama said at a White House event.

"Right now our priority needs to be giving middle class Americans and small businesses the security they deserve."

The president blamed the current tax cuts for causing the deficit, and added that an overall Bush tax cut extension is "least likely to promote growth-we can't afford to keep that up, not right now. I just believe that anybody making over $250,000 should go back to the income tax rates we were paying under Bill Clinton."

House Republicans are planning a vote later this month on a one-year, across-the-board extension for all taxpayers — and have framed all proposed tax increases on higher earners as a drag on the economy and job creation.
But the White House is looking to set the terms as middle class security and fairness — portraying the Republicans as standing in the way of a middle class tax cut in order to preserve tax breaks for the rich.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78234.html#ixzz208xyTg00

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 9:45:30 AM   
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Why don't libs read about the "community reinvestment act," where banks were told to give loans to minorities and people with poorer credit so they could participate in the Democrat dream of everyone should own a house! Banks did what they were told to do. Houses were sold to deadbeats, Inflated value mortgages were used to back investments. Deadbeats defaulted on mortgages, investors found 10,000 dollar dumps backing 100,000 investments. Shit hit the fan.

Root cause of the downturn. DEMOCRAT wet dream that everyone should own a house! Dems now try to pin their stupid "social justice" plan of everyone should own a house on Wall Street. Wall street just sold investments backed by Freddie and Fannnie. Its not over yet. Fannie and Freddie will need a MASSIVE bailout before this Democrat fuckup is over!

Not exactly how the re-investment act worked...

The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA, Pub.L. 95-128, title VIII of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1977, 91 Stat. 1147, 12 U.S.C. § 2901 et seq.) is a United States federal law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to help meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.[1][2][3] Congress passed the Act in 1977 to reduce discriminatory credit practices against low-income neighborhoods, a practice known as redlining.[4][5]

Redlining was massive prior to the act, the act is still in force, and yet, the problem seems to have temporarily quelled itself.

I wouldn't want to mention the BILLIONS of dollars that crooks like WAMU, Taylor Bean and Whitaker, and Countrywide made by issuing those mrortgages or by perverting the methods typically used to underwrite mortgages, it might call to question your theory...

To make blanket statements shows a lack of understanding of the forces at work here. Small personal indiscretions such as GREED, AVERST, in some cases everything short of USERY!

Sorry to burst your simplistic bubble, but quite simply put, your theory has holes large enough to drive LARGE trucks through!

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 11:03:36 AM   
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Aw, poor little buckaroo. Your grandpappy and his grandpappy had a tough life so you're gonna whine about it for the rest of your miserable life.

Boo fucking hoo.

I'm pretty sure you were never owned by a white man, and I don't know of a single white man American who legally owns a black person. All you're doing is whining about the shitty lives of other people.

And if I'm understanding that rambling post correctly, you don't know a fucking thing about how the issues will affect the black community.

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I didn’t see any liberals suggesting that if u stopped migrant mexicans from getting into the counrty that Americans would take those jobs….. And got nothing but crickets chirping in the silence….


Here's a newsflash: Minorities (including your black brothers and sisters) are the highest demographics of the unemployed. Black youth unemployment is a record high. There is another thread going right now talking about the rising unemployment among black adults.

Now think about this... and forget your little fruit picking migrant workers. Lets go with a real issue that has been in the news recently concerning the 2 year visa for children of criminal immigrants that were brought here by their criminal immigrant parents and have been educated in this country. Obuttheads goal is to make them productive members of society and make sure that they get good jobs and stay here to work and contribute.

Just who the fuck do you think is going to lose good jobs to these educated and qualified backdoor amnesty recipients? I promise you, it won't be qualified white people. That means the people most likely to lose their jobs is going to be.... black people!

Maybe (and this may be a bit of a reach) someday when you and your little black liberal friends and neighbors are hanging out at the Unemployment Office trying to figure out why Jesus and Juanita have your jobs, you might figure out that you've been conned your entire life. Like I said, it's a bit of a reach. I may be giving you too much credit.

But hey, look at the bright side. When you lose your job to a criminal immigrant, the rich white Democrats will give you some scraps from their table to keep you happy. Maybe they'll even bring back government cheese so you'll keep voting for them.

I see that you think you're a knight instead of a prince, but you sound like a court jester.

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ladies & gentlemen!! We have an honored guest among us! We have a white conservative who knows what's its like to be Black!! SO Black is he...that he knows what our community is pissed off about even when we say we are pissed off about something completely different!!
Once again, he doesn't get the point that the wealthy whose ass he's sucking so hard on has had no thought to him being thrown under the bus....and making him pay for the privilege.

anybody notice that he said "OUR JOBS"? like he thinks that the only job losses are to minorities and not to HIS whites? fancy that from a bigot! I bet u use that same argument against training us Black folks to get ur job too dont u?

heres the real newsflash: minorities (and women) have been at the bottom of the job chain because of white male discrimination…. period. And thats been going on FOR DECADES. Black America has always had competition for jobs so what ur going on about hispanics doesn’t even register on our radar… because of people like u WE'RE USED TO IT!! HELLO?? The outsourcing of American jobs did more to hurt Blacks than any infusion of the other races,… So really? u don’t know jackshit about what the Black Community is up in arms about…. Well, actually u do,… u just say stupid crap to distract from it.

u can dress up a pig, & put lipstick on it, but ur still a bigoted pig. And u are whats wrong with America and is a key reason to its (continued) implosion.

sorry bucky but the con job is u and ur GOP party. (the tea party too) If the We don't get jobs because of the Hispanics then we wouldn't of gotten them because of white greed and discrimination ( no matter of party) in the first place stupid. ur fear mongering other minorities dont fly here. U bitch piss & moan about entitlements but u seem to feel pretty entitled to ur place in the world…. Slacker!

THE enemy of every middle class & poor American regardless of race is the conservative policies of trickle down economics where the wealthy and big corporations of this country have saddled the middle class & poor workers with the burden of paying for everything,.... and people like "sad-is-dave" is their cheerleaders, thongs under their short skirts and all. ( I bet that'd be THE scary sight!! LOL! )

and since u like to look at the "bright side" of life..... eventually those wetbacks, Ni**ers, chinks, native drunks u hate so much are going to amass together and vote into the white house other liberal people u fear.... like WOMEN!! And then a another Black President, and before long maybe an (Native American) INDIAN!! President Obama is only the first of people who are like us…. And eventually are going to be running and winning the white house as often as ur white guys used to..... and u know what BUCKEROO??

the bigot bullshit will stop and go the way of the Dodo bird...because then We're are going to outnumber u even with all the crap ur trying to hold us down with... like voterID laws! And ya know spanky, We're going to infect the workers in the rest of the world with the ideals of equality, so if they come here and become member of OUR society, they will NOT be voting GOP! ( now Im just baiting him...LOL ..even if its true!)

And once WE dump ur sorry bigoted asses to the curb, WE the newest version of America - the nation of immigrants, will make America the envy of the world again.







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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 11:30:19 AM   
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice? Shame on me. Vote for Romney. At least he lives in the real world and not in some Carl Marx socialistic world where the government promises to "distribute" income so the poor will live in the land of milk and honey. Even peasants in undeveloped countries know enough to roll their eyes when told they are going to live well once the government "distributes" money from the rich. "All you have to do to get all this is vote for us!"


evedently fooling u for 11 plus years doesnt do anything for ur shame factor..... bush tax cuts have "distributed" the wealthy BILLIONS all these 11 years with none of the job growth promised.... There are SO many links to how the wealthy/poor income gap has widened during the last 11 years its insane. yet u keep voting for it as if SOME day the rich are going to decide they have enough money and let it "trickle down" to the rest of us poor shlubs??

dude, they have NO INCENTIVE to do anything but stuff their pockets with the "distributed" tax cut cash.... and thats all they've done with it.

The "milk & honey" the rich is getting, and amassing as wealth... is being paid for by u... how is that NOT a re-distribution of wealth??

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 11:40:18 AM   
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice? Shame on me. Vote for Romney. At least he lives in the real world and not in some Carl Marx socialistic world where the government promises to "distribute" income so the poor will live in the land of milk and honey. Even peasants in undeveloped countries know enough to roll their eyes when told they are going to live well once the government "distributes" money from the rich. "All you have to do to get all this is vote for us!"

I can understand if you want to vote for Romney instead of Obama. Hell, a lot of folks do. But, to use the old "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" line to justify support for one of the greatest flip-floppers of the modern era just shows ultrapartisan ignorance.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 12:07:21 PM   
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Particularly when said flip flopper is talking about doing the exactly same shit that didn't do your economy any good under the chimp (or, indeed, the Kenyan)...

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 2:23:03 PM   
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Why don't libs read about the "community reinvestment act," where banks were told to give loans to minorities and people with poorer credit so they could participate in the Democrat dream of everyone should own a house! Banks did what they were told to do. Houses were sold to deadbeats, Inflated value mortgages were used to back investments. Deadbeats defaulted on mortgages, investors found 10,000 dollar dumps backing 100,000 investments. Shit hit the fan.

Root cause of the downturn. DEMOCRAT wet dream that everyone should own a house! Dems now try to pin their stupid "social justice" plan of everyone should own a house on Wall Street. Wall street just sold investments backed by Freddie and Fannnie. Its not over yet. Fannie and Freddie will need a MASSIVE bailout before this Democrat fuckup is over!

Yeah, a law passed in 1977 caused an economic collapse in 2008. It must have been all those people paying into 30 year mortgages who all decided to stop paying with only a few years to go.

Sometimes the stuff that gets dumped out by the right wing echo chamber is so ludicrous as to make me wonder if the various bloggers and radio personalities aren't punking their audience to see just how gullible they are.

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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 2:45:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: papassion


Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice? Shame on me. Vote for Romney. At least he lives in the real world and not in some Carl Marx socialistic world where the government promises to "distribute" income so the poor will live in the land of milk and honey. Even peasants in undeveloped countries know enough to roll their eyes when told they are going to live well once the government "distributes" money from the rich. "All you have to do to get all this is vote for us!"

When discussing pinkos use k not c

The "peasants" of Bolivia seem to like
Evo Morales.

Obama isn't redistributing wealth and
declaring the poor are now on easy
street. He's in most regards a pretty
bourgeois kinda guy.

The real world Willard lives in isn't
populated by very many people.


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RE: We got 4 months left....who you gonna vote for? - 7/9/2012 4:07:22 PM   
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Paul would be my choice though admittedly he has no chance. Therefore it comes down to the lesser of two evils and I will not vote for evil in any case. To bad Cuthulu is not on the ballot for the evil inclined.
Ultimately I'm not so sure it matters as I think, sooner rather than later, neither side will be able to pay for what has been promised. The cake has been baked and even Paul cannot stop the trainwreck that is unfolding.



See, that's the problem with our system but, most importantly, the electorate (you and I).

Perot could have won....if people believed he could win.

He got 19+%...call it 20 for easy math.

Clinton got 40+%, Bush got 40 (minus)%...it was a VERY close race between Clinton and Bush.

6 - 8% from both of those guys...and Perot would have won.

And a great percentage of the electorate later said "I would have voted for Perot if I thought he had a shot".

He always had a shot, and he was the very first Independent that did.

We just didn't give it to him.

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