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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 7:25:14 PM   
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Ishtar,


To satisfy your curiousity---anal sex is very painful for me. Not every person is able to take it and enjoy it.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 7:51:28 PM   
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The only thing that's critical in my mind is that she hates it and suffers greatly while I enjoy it.


But isn't this part of your dynamic when you are NOT punishing her too?

True, but the main difference is in the mental dynamic.
When it's play, I tell her how much I love her while I'm trying to tear her tits off :-0



owe!! LOL you can tell pain is not my friend. xD

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 7:51:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: Kana
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1-Why would I want to hurt her? Because I'm a sadist.
 HURT, good.  HARM, not good.
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2-Actually, I've done lots of these things with the consent of the slut (Points at the cattleprod thread-lets the reader decide which one he has yet to do).
Hell, usually it's just been in a scene.
Double hell, after the fact, they've admitted to, in that twisted lovely maso way, loving to hate it/me and hating to love it/me.
Triple hell-they came back for a round two, three, five, seven hundred!

"Made a meal outta me, come back for more."
 Consensual == > not punishment
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Kana, ALL that you mentioned seem to be based on the punishee's non-consent.... Are you NUTS?

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3-Are you really asking if I'm nuts? After all this time posting here? I mean seriously, after all these years of posting I would have guessed that all ya muthers knew I was certifiable.
Cripes, I thought such questions were considered moot. :-)
I think the word you are looking for is "rhetorical" and yes, that was a rhetorical question.

 



I dunno Every time I've done punishment (Man I hate that word. It's so loaded with negatism. I much prefer the idea of behavioral modification), she's consented.
You know, because otherwise it's a 1st degree sex offense as well as ADW and most likely 1st degree kidnapping, or at the least holding someone against their will.
Now she may have consented because the other consequence is worse (As in, Kana is outta here and ain't coming back), but they consented.

As for harm/hurt-I think we have different definitions.
I see harm as permanent injury. Hurt is things that heal.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 8:18:20 PM   
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Kana, ALL that you mentioned seem to be based on the punishee's non-consent.... Are you NUTS?


I consented to be his slave. Once I did that, everything he does to me is his right.

As for the things he listed, yeah they harm and they hurt but they all heal as he said. And yeah, they definitely work as behavior modifications for me because he knows I absolutely hate some of them and I will do whatever it takes never to have to feel those things again. Sometimes just the threat alone is enough to curb my behavior because I know he is all too willing to do those things to me.

As for him enjoying them....just because I hate them doesn't mean he has to hate the punishment as well. He's a sadist. I am not a masochist but I take whatever he wishes to do because it makes him happy.

His behavior modifications work believe me.

Yeah, our relationship isn't for everyone but it works for me and for us. It's what I wanted when I was seeking a partner and that's exactly what I got.


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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 8:22:01 PM   
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I find yalls relationship to be adorable.

He scares the hell outta me though!

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 8:24:22 PM   
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Like he doesn't scare me? LOL

But I admit that's what I find adorable about him. He is the only person I have ever found that scares me. I've come across murderers and rapists and nut jobs, etc...not a single one even made a dent in me but him? This man? Yeah.....when he gets that evil look on his face...run!

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 10:02:46 PM   
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I hate being asked to stand in the corner. It's a child's punishment and I hate being treated like a child. I'm always naked at home, so the naked thing doesn't make it any way sexual at all.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 10:08:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lilcracker
And I understand the resentment one feels with punishment and for me the non sexual ones always caused resentment. Example, ignoring me, denying visits...


There are plenty of potential punishments that don't involve weakening the relationship or causing abandonment issues. The opposite of ignoring would be lecturing. That could be a punishment also.

But hurting me sexually would backfire on him. It would cause me not to want sex with him. And he doesn't want to be with a woman who finds him sexually not desirable. YMMV

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 10:12:22 PM   
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Honestly if I got ignored I would ignore right back and loose the number. If I were single anyways and my husband never ignores me.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 10:25:10 PM   
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lilcracker, let me put this in context. The punishment you're referring to was to stand on tiptoes with fingers against the wall, for five minutes. Nothing sexual about that at all. However, she was also directed to do that nude, which makes it very likely that the punisher was just getting his rocks off. THAT'S what made it sexual.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/8/2012 10:47:24 PM   
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Or she could have been naked to strip her sense of pride. I personally hate standing in the corner naked. It feels very humbling.

Im not saying the guy was using it in this context or was jerkin his gerkin at the thought of it but it would be a very (nonsexual) punishment to some.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 4:10:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wildernessbitch

Or she could have been naked to strip her sense of pride. I personally hate standing in the corner naked. It feels very humbling.



personally thats how i would see it, the loss of pride and the knowing of being naughty and having to be treated like a child for their childish actions

having somebody stand facing a corner is very much a childs punishment which would make it humiliating

having the pants down allows it to be seen if a spanking has happened yet and how bad it was

and having the arms up simply tires the punishee out and makes them feel antsy, "how much longer?" sort of stuff can do wonders. plus the added bonus of the small mind game when you wait just a little bit too long to relieve their aching arms, youve already told them not to move but their arms are tired (i recommend, and im sure others do too, putting pennys or dimes or something under each finger so they know you will know if they moved or not)


wow... even im not sure if any of that was typed in any coherent way.... i have to stop posting first thing, should give it an hour when i can do... stuff... yeah imma... imma drift off for awhile

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 5:29:47 AM   
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I know we are not to question other on certain things but wow
to burn someone on their most perious part with a cigar is rough!

Surely you jest? Please say yes that is the root of all of well, some
of our pleasure if it is destroy damage or just f*&^$ up it no more good for
anyone!!!


mons ( it was a question I had to asking LQQKING to see if anyone else wonder about it as
well?!!)

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 8:50:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mons

I know we are not to question other on certain things but wow
to burn someone on their most perious part with a cigar is rough!

Surely you jest? Please say yes that is the root of all of well, some
of our pleasure if it is destroy damage or just f*&^$ up it no more good for
anyone!!!


mons ( it was a question I had to asking LQQKING to see if anyone else wonder about it as
well?!!)

Hell no I ain't kidding.
Not in the freaking least.

WTF do you folks think a sadist is? Some sort of comfy fuzzy Disney approved pink handcuff Dom sorta guy?

Of course I get pleasure out of hurting her. That's why (Amongst many other reasons) she's in my life-to serenade me with her symphony of screams


And again-let's not get overly dramatic-I ain't talking bout burning her clit off (Though, mmmmmmmmmmmm-talk about a way to absolutely restrict her slavery to a service plane...I kid, I kid...kinda :-O), I'm talking about burns that, you know, heal.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 8:54:05 AM   
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YOU, Kana, are a deliciously sick and twisted fucker! I admire LWfor her dedication to you, because, frankly, I'd have been SO outta there...LOL

(I do truly envy you two... )


btw, how are YOUR owners? Still shedding and purring 7 ways to Sunday?

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 9:35:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

YOU, Kana, are a deliciously sick and twisted fucker! I admire LWfor her dedication to you, because, frankly, I'd have been SO outta there...LOL

(I do truly envy you two... )


btw, how are YOUR owners? Still shedding and purring 7 ways to Sunday?


They are very very unhappy with me-for some reason they've been eating 2x as much food and getting fat, so now they on a diet...and oooooh, they are so displeased with me.


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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 11:05:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

To each their own but for the most part I see sexual "punishments" as funishments unless it's something like taking away her abilities to orgasm because she touched herself when it was against the rules or some other sexual disobedience.



Being denied orgasms is a privilege, not a punishment, to those who enjoy orgasm denial. I would consider your 'punishment' a very sexual funishment!

Which I think proves the overarching theme of this thread - punishment is whatever you think it is - including those that involve 'sex' in some way or form. It might seem like a funishment to you, but if it didn't to the person involved, then that's all that counts.

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 11:52:47 AM   
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quote:

WTF do you folks think a sadist is? Some sort of comfy fuzzy Disney approved pink handcuff Dom sorta guy?


Well yeah. Don't you know that most think we are just pretending. Like wrestling! ;)

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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 12:57:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chastityslaveFE


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

To each their own but for the most part I see sexual "punishments" as funishments unless it's something like taking away her abilities to orgasm because she touched herself when it was against the rules or some other sexual disobedience.



Being denied orgasms is a privilege, not a punishment, to those who enjoy orgasm denial. I would consider your 'punishment' a very sexual funishment!

Which I think proves the overarching theme of this thread - punishment is whatever you think it is - including those that involve 'sex' in some way or form. It might seem like a funishment to you, but if it didn't to the person involved, then that's all that counts.



Oh believe me I don't find this as funishment. I hate orgasm denial. It just frustrates me and makes me a not so very nice person for most of the day because of the frustration. He sometimes uses as a punishment to remind me that my orgasms belong to him and if I ever want to orgasm ever again then I will change my behavior which means that that not very nice person has to figure out a way to be a nicer person especially to him.


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RE: sexual punishments-I just had to ask - 7/9/2012 1:04:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: imdmb
plus the added bonus of the small mind game when you wait just a little bit too long to relieve their aching arms,



In other words you're a liar. You say five minutes but really make it ten. To me mind games are for fun, not for punishment. If you do them then, it makes the other person believe you cannot be trusted and are making up punishments to get yourself off. Which makes them lose trust in you. It's either for your sexual enjoyment or it's behavior modification (assuming it works). Mixing the two requires a much stronger relationship to begin with and the sadist has to be very clear with himself as to why he's doing things.

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