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MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:08:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania In my vanilla life, if a child maybe hurt I am calling the cops without hesitation,.. if nothing is wrong and all is above board.. the adults involved have nothing to worry about. Well thats great, julia, your willing to destroy someones life without being circumspect. Terrific. I suppose that you don't think that having the police show up at your door is very traumatic for a child. Having them take the child away from their parents to talk them does nothing to them. Right? quote: To many children are abused,neglected, and exploited in our country. And many of those that are, are being abused by the very system(s) you would use to protect them. So which is the lesser of two evils? Going to the authorities with undeniable proof? Or just calling the cops everytime you hear a squeal through the walls?

eroticangel -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:09:44 PM)
i think what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas....same with posts and emails and journal entries

juliaoceania -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:38:37 PM)
IMHO the people I have known that have had unmentionables taken from them, the kids were better off. I have seen this many times... I have a friend that teaches unmentionables, she is by law required to narc neglect to the authorities.. It takes a lot to get unmentionables away from their parents.. unlike many think. I would rather someone report me if they thought I was doing something wrong with my unmentionable than turn their back BTW almost every friend I had since high school was sexually abused at some point by stepfather, uncle, father, or another man with influence in their life.. so I tend to think this goes unreported and under reported. I still applaud those who try to help girls like many of my friends

Proprietrix -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:44:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? I think as long as someone isn't breaking the TOS or AUP of the particular site they are using, then they can do whatever they please. quote: ORIGINAL: perverseangelic If I put something onto the internet, I assume that it will, at some point, become public knowledge. GIven the way the internet is, any e-mail I write could become public, any journal entry I write could be seen by my parents, any picture I post could be found by potential employers. Bingo! This isn’t the doctor’s office and no one on the internet should expect any level of confidentiality. Putting your personal and confidential information on the internet and then being shocked when it "leaks around" is almost as intelligent as putting your phone number on the bathroom wall and being surprised when people ring you up for a booty call. quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania In my vanilla life, if a child maybe hurt I am calling the cops without hesitation,.. if nothing is wrong and all is above board.. the adults involved have nothing to worry about. To many children are abused,neglected, and exploited in our country. This is simply not true and shows your lack of experience with governmental family intervention agencies. Please be aware that much of the abuse, neglect, and exploitation going on in this country is happening in foster homes to children that were removed from safe and healthy environments based on nosey neighbor hearsay and social worker’s misconceptions and stereotyping.

Wulfchyld -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:49:42 PM)
Perhaps the most irritating and disgusting thing I have seen from the latest witch-hunt was the flood of mail I got of copy and pasted mail and IM conversations. I felt pretty bad for the people who expected their conversations with that person was going to be kept between them, but it gave me quite an insight to their thoughts and opinions.

LaTigresse -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:52:47 PM)
that all sounds pretty pathetic

stef -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 12:57:59 PM)
Indeed, on a couple of different levels. ~stef

NINASHARP -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 1:10:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee IMO it is wrong to air your dirty laundry in public forum, and quite childish to say the least. However, if you know someone who is a potential dangerous person ( I mean someone who is clearly a physical abuser or psycho) who is actively seeking their next victim, then how do you warn others without going to a open forum? For instance, years ago, a first time submissive met a self proclaimed dominant man online and after a long correspondence between the two, they agreed to get together and play. She was beaten, tortured and raped repeatedly. All pre negotiation went out the door after he had her tied to the bed and had gagged her. This was a guy she thought she could trust! He hurt her so bad she had to be hospilized. And I suppose because of the nature of their meeting, the police did nothing about it. The guy was on a public bdsm forum and looking for other submissives to "play" with, and those who knew who he was and what had happened, tried to warn those on that board that he was a dangerous person. So I guess on the contrary, if its to warn someone of a psycho, it would be ok to go public. Dateline has had many episodes about child predators, and they don't try to hide the identity of those involved, but I guess they have backed up evidence of the harmful intentions of those involved. Nina

pinkee -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 1:37:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NINASHARP quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee IMO it is wrong to air your dirty laundry in public forum, and quite childish to say the least. However, if you know someone who is a potential dangerous person ( I mean someone who is clearly a physical abuser or psycho) who is actively seeking their next victim, then how do you warn others without going to a open forum? For instance, years ago, a first time submissive met a self proclaimed dominant man online and after a long correspondence between the two, they agreed to get together and play. She was beaten, tortured and raped repeatedly. All pre negotiation went out the door after he had her tied to the bed and had gagged her. This was a guy she thought she could trust! He hurt her so bad she had to be hospilized. And I suppose because of the nature of their meeting, the police did nothing about it. The guy was on a public bdsm forum and looking for other submissives to "play" with, and those who knew who he was and what had happened, tried to warn those on that board that he was a dangerous person. So I guess on the contrary, if its to warn someone of a psycho, it would be ok to go public. Dateline has had many episodes about child predators, and they don't try to hide the identity of those involved, but I guess they have backed up evidence of the harmful intentions of those involved. Nina Sorry, but on this board, bashing a M/member is a violation of the TOS. There are other ways to help an abused womam, if you truely believe her story. pinkee

NINASHARP -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 2:11:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee quote: ORIGINAL: NINASHARP quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee IMO it is wrong to air your dirty laundry in public forum, and quite childish to say the least. However, if you know someone who is a potential dangerous person ( I mean someone who is clearly a physical abuser or psycho) who is actively seeking their next victim, then how do you warn others without going to a open forum? For instance, years ago, a first time submissive met a self proclaimed dominant man online and after a long correspondence between the two, they agreed to get together and play. She was beaten, tortured and raped repeatedly. All pre negotiation went out the door after he had her tied to the bed and had gagged her. This was a guy she thought she could trust! He hurt her so bad she had to be hospilized. And I suppose because of the nature of their meeting, the police did nothing about it. The guy was on a public bdsm forum and looking for other submissives to "play" with, and those who knew who he was and what had happened, tried to warn those on that board that he was a dangerous person. So I guess on the contrary, if its to warn someone of a psycho, it would be ok to go public. Dateline has had many episodes about child predators, and they don't try to hide the identity of those involved, but I guess they have backed up evidence of the harmful intentions of those involved. Nina Sorry, but on this board, bashing a M/member is a violation of the TOS. There are other ways to help an abused womam, if you truely believe her story. pinkee I was not talking about this board, nor a member here, although the guy could be as far as I know. I was giving an example of what might be a reason to bring something to a public forum. Thats is all. And yes the story is true, and its probably not the only one out there. Here is a reality check for you, there are some people out there, who don't play fair or nice. I really do hope that you never find that out for yourself. Nina .

pinkee -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 2:16:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NINASHARP quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee quote: ORIGINAL: NINASHARP quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee IMO it is wrong to air your dirty laundry in public forum, and quite childish to say the least. However, if you know someone who is a potential dangerous person ( I mean someone who is clearly a physical abuser or psycho) who is actively seeking their next victim, then how do you warn others without going to a open forum? For instance, years ago, a first time submissive met a self proclaimed dominant man online and after a long correspondence between the two, they agreed to get together and play. She was beaten, tortured and raped repeatedly. All pre negotiation went out the door after he had her tied to the bed and had gagged her. This was a guy she thought she could trust! He hurt her so bad she had to be hospilized. And I suppose because of the nature of their meeting, the police did nothing about it. The guy was on a public bdsm forum and looking for other submissives to "play" with, and those who knew who he was and what had happened, tried to warn those on that board that he was a dangerous person. So I guess on the contrary, if its to warn someone of a psycho, it would be ok to go public. Dateline has had many episodes about child predators, and they don't try to hide the identity of those involved, but I guess they have backed up evidence of the harmful intentions of those involved. Nina Sorry, but on this board, bashing a M/member is a violation of the TOS. There are other ways to help an abused womam, if you truely believe her story. pinkee I was not talking about this board, nor a member here, although the guy could be as far as I know. I was giving an example of what might be a reason to bring something to a public forum. Thats is all. And yes the story is true, and its probably not the only one out there. Here is a reality check for you, there are some people out there, who don't play fair or nice. I really do hope that you never find that out for yourself. Nina . i have heard doezens of stories of abused women in my time here. Here are some things to do:: 1. Empasize safety -- beforehand. 2. Document your injuries -- insist the ER take pictures -- and pressure the DA to prosecute. 3. Tell Support. 4. Direct her to the county sherrif for assistance from the woman's shelter/battering assistance network. pinkee

iliv2servher -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 2:48:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee I don't believe there is any current Internet law pertaining to the misuse of private messages, although (and possibly not related to the question) the person who "owns" the network or the telephone line does have a legal right to read or monitor those communications. If the sender specifically asks you not to pass along the message, then I believe you are bound by at least a code of ethics, if not the law. Possibly unrelated to the original question... If you are talking about copyright infringement, such as copying and pasting what someone has written and posted on a Website, and taking that and placing it into a public venue (such as CM), I believe that you do have a responsiblity to ask them if you can quote the text before publishing it. And in the case of a post on a public Website, I would certainly give them journalistic credit. Although not specifically addressed in the question... Internet laws relating to privacy and copyright protection are still in their infancy, and we will have to wait for the higher courts to decide what is permissible to reproduce and what is not. On point... In my opinion, what someones relates to you in a message or in an E-Mail should be considered private and confidential unless otherwise stated by the sender.

ScooterTrash -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 3:28:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee I think for the most part...e-mails and the information contained within them, should be held in confidence, at least to the extent that it's not published in a journal or brought out in a forum. Sure, as several pointed out, if it's an obvious case that someone needs warned of possible danger, they should be warned, but I would think a direct approach rather than a copy/paste would be more appropriate. I have to admit if someone send me an e-mail about how they were cheating on their spouse, I might be compelled to disclose that, but again, I am quite positive I would not copy/paste an e-mail to my journal or post it on the boards...I would just bring up directly to one or the other parties involved. If there's a hypothetical situation and no names are disclosed (and it's not obvious)...and it's used as an example...I don't see anything wrong with posting the situation on the boards however. Of course the second you cross that line where you are finger pointing...you just stepped in it in my book.

Sensualips -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 5:06:14 PM)
So...have enough people agreed with the OP yet? Generally speaking it is poor form to reveal information received privately in a public setting, be it online or in real life. On the other hand, use common sense. Most reasonable people can tell what might be upsetting or awkward to reveal and what might be a casual reference or conversational material. On the other hand, let's sniff out this privacy buster and burn her ass at the stake.

Vendaval -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 5:07:29 PM)
I strongly feel that private conversations need to remain private. If a friend sends a joke I ask about passing it on and then it can be posted. I am on over 20 different discussion lists for various topics; Burning Man, Renaissance Faires, Rocky Horror and Kink Events. Some of the events have cross-over appeal and I send event announcements to other lists when appropriate. Most of the time that is for some sort of costume party like The Labyrinth of Jareth or The Carnal Carnival, and fund-raising events for various charities. But I check first to see if there is a tag line of "Feel free to post to appropriate lists". Peace and Light, Vendaval

pinkee -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 5:21:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: iliv2servher quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee IMHO, any information Y/you receive in an email, IM, or other non-public setting is private and confidential and does not belong on the boards or in Y/your journal. What's Y/your opinion? (Please reference mistoferin's Op on "witch hunts".) pinkee I don't believe there is any current Internet law pertaining to the misuse of private messages, although (and possibly not related to the question) the person who "owns" the network or the telephone line does have a legal right to read or monitor those communications. If the sender specifically asks you not to pass along the message, then I believe you are bound by at least a code of ethics, if not the law. Possibly unrelated to the original question... If you are talking about copyright infringement, such as copying and pasting what someone has written and posted on a Website, and taking that and placing it into a public venue (such as CM), I believe that you do have a responsiblity to ask them if you can quote the text before publishing it. And in the case of a post on a public Website, I would certainly give them journalistic credit. Although not specifically addressed in the question... Internet laws relating to privacy and copyright protection are still in their infancy, and we will have to wait for the higher courts to decide what is permissible to reproduce and what is not. On point... In my opinion, what someones relates to you in a message or in an E-Mail should be considered private and confidential unless otherwise stated by the sender. Once again, this thread is about "etiquette" not laws or the TOS. pinkee

Alumbrado -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 6:48:48 PM)
Etiquette is not a legal standard, as already pointed out...but it certainly does not trump matters of possible harm or danger to others... And it has been shown over and over again, that sending anyone anything on the Internet (note the name is not the Privacynet) is like shouting out an open window. If there has been an expectation of trust and matters have been shared in confidence, and then that confidence betrayed, such actions were around long before computers.

BreakMeShakeMe -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 6:55:45 PM)
I got a better Idea... you don't want shit repeated... don't say it.. plain and simple.

pinkee -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 6:58:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BreakMeShakeMe I got a better Idea... you don't want shit repeated... don't say it.. plain and simple. i trust the P/pl i communicate with, and have not been let down, except once. truesub4u -- did you change your nick? pinkee

BreakMeShakeMe -> RE: Privacy Etiquette (6/8/2006 7:01:23 PM)
Yep sure did.

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