DesideriScuri
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I hope you are intelligent enough to read what I wrote and see that I never said Obama said any of that. As a matter of fact, I accurately quoted Ray LaHood as saying it.
Your implying that it comes directly from the President. Which there is no evidence of. Your title itself more or less implies President Obama directed the information himself. Since the 'President' (regardless of who he/she is) is often associated with 'The White House'.
I'm implying that it comes from the Obama Administration Cabinet, regardless of how you interpret or misinterpret who is being referred to when "The White House" is used.
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Again, I never claimed Obama said any of those things. But, Ray LaHood was giving Obama credit, wasn't he?
That may have been the intention. However, that is not how the history developed. As was pointed out that a hybrid vehicle was produced some years before hand. So did Mr. LaHood really give President Obama credit? You understand what I'm getting at, right?
Yes, he did give him credit. Recall:
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“I don’t think the car manufacturers would be manufacturing the cars they are manufacturing today as hybrids, if it weren’t for what the president did in signing the executive order ..."
Perhaps that's not really President Obama credit in your eyes, but, it is really giving President Obama at least partial credit (while also giving himself and Ms. Jackson credit. I don't know how long Ms. Jackson has been with the EPA, but he credited the actions of 3 people for the Lexus Hybrid being developed in the previous 2 years. Not saying that Mr. LaHood, Ms. Jackson and President Obama actually developed the technology and how to apply it to the Lexus, so don't try to skate down that tangent.
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How much did it matter?!?!?!? This guy was talking to a crowd and pumping up his candidate (which I have no problem with in general). But, when he isn't being honest and truthful in the way he's pumping up his candidate, well, that's a problem. "The best intentions?" Really? This was a campaign stop. Gimme a break.
EVERYBODY, wants to "...pump up [their] candiate...". He had best intentions, but facts and evidence really didnt favor his speech. For example, George W. Bush had good intentions on 9/11 when he was sitting before the children reading the book. Those 11 minutes between when he was first told and the second time, was time wasted (according to some people). His reaction was (everyone has an opinion on this) he did not wish to alarm the children to the situation at the time, and tried to find a stopping point. To show respect to the children as the children where showing to him.
As the saying goes, DS: "The Road to Hell is paved in good intentions" (Capt John Sheridan in Babylon 5 replied "Why does it have to go straight through my office!?!?!").
What is really hilarious is I was going to respond to your "best intentions" assertion with that very quote. Thanks for doing it for me, and taking apart your defense.
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If you get your head out of your ideological ass, you'd see that I'm not as partisan as you obviously think.
You have been more than partisan in the past. I could bring up the examples, but it would be off topic. Again, why make a post like this, when there have been many such instances in which some moron on the conservative side said stuff to pump up a Republican running for the White House within the last year? Its a fair question, in light of the facts on the table. This thread, at its most basic level, is simply a petty slam towards Sec. LaHood. So someone made a mistake in the White House. Are you expecting every Democrat to be perfect 100% all of the time? If not, why bring the thread up in the first place?
It was ideologically motived. That truly is the bottom line.
I have been more than partisan? Really? Can you prove that I have toed the Party line (which I am not a Republican, btw) when I didn't agree with that line? Can you show me where I've stated that I agreed with something the R's did and disagreed when the D's did the exact same thing? Didn't think so.
You are making this too easy, dude. For some reason, I think we've agreed on stuff in past threads, even.
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