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angelikaJ -> Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 8:58:25 AM)

Romney's Bermuda Account Raises Questions

And this is going to matter much more than 'Bain-gate'.

Most Americans are not going to buy the whole "I did everything completely legally and paid all my taxes." bit.
He is not going to be able to explain this in a way people are going to understand... and accept.





DomYngBlk -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 9:02:31 AM)

Smells like yesterdays diapers




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 1:39:57 PM)

As I recall, someone commented a while back that as the spotlight focusses on Romney, his desirability as a candidate will start to evaporate. Seeing that he's the Wall Street candidate, this is hardly surprising.
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LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 5:17:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Romney's Bermuda Account Raises Questions

And this is going to matter much more than 'Bain-gate'.

Most Americans are not going to buy the whole "I did everything completely legally and paid all my taxes." bit.
He is not going to be able to explain this in a way people are going to understand... and accept.




Lemme see if I grasp what you're saying....

The guy is worth 175 times what everyone here (collectively) on CM is worth....and....he put some of his assets in a foreign corporation 15 years ago to protect them against future devaluation (after, by the way, having paid full US taxes on these same assets) and you're upset with him.

So...how many people here have time shares?

Maybe not a lot, but some.

Those are "foreign corporate assets".

(You evil bastards).

Every time you send your annual $750.00 to the time share company (who sends some of it, maybe even the majority of it) to a foreign national corporation....you're fucking with the same evil bastards that Romney is....

It's just a matter of degree.

Gawdamn you sons of bitches....you're destroying America!

Fargin bastages.





mnottertail -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 5:21:00 PM)

No, we have enough craven corporate capitulists working money overseas instead of making america work.

The fucking president better be with the program, not hedging against America, we got a full system for that.

Lead by example.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 5:57:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No, we have enough craven corporate capitulists working money overseas instead of making america work.

The fucking president better be with the program, not hedging against America, we got a full system for that.

Lead by example.


Did you buy fuel for your car this week?

You're hedging against America.

(And...for the record...he ain't the Prez yet).

***************

Ya still look stupid from this angle.




tazzygirl -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:02:57 PM)

Dont we export gas?




mnottertail -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:05:53 PM)

what the fuck does that asswipe have to do with?

You know our largest monetary import is petroleum product.  I goddamn sure aint going to point out his fucking slimyness after he is president while remaining silent now.

My being forced to buy goods and services from lack of choice due to craven corporate capitulation is a damn sight different than running around saying I am going to live in america and take advantage of its bounty, but fuckin gonna drop that fucker off the face of the earth when it wants benefit.

Hey, let's run Charlie Manson, and talk it over after we see how he does. 




erieangel -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:13:17 PM)

The big question of the day seems to be when did Willard actually leave Bain Capital?

Willard has insisted for years that he left the company in 1999 in order to "save" the Olympics. Yet, in '02, when he was running for MA governor, he testified under oath that he had attended several board meetings, etc., both in person and over the phone. At the time, Willard was being forced to prove that he had been a resident of MA all along.

And Willard was paid "at least" $100,000 for each year between 1999 and 2002, when he actually did "officially" leave the company in order to run for MA governor.

So which is it, Willard.

I would love to see tax returns for those years. But Willard has said he has no intention of releasing any more tax returns except the 2011 return when he finally does file it.





Owner59 -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:18:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

As I recall, someone commented a while back that as the spotlight focusses on Romney, his desirability as a candidate will start to evaporate. Seeing that he's the Wall Street candidate, this is hardly surprising.
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He was called "uniquely unqualified" ........ to run against the president by his primary running mates.


They weren`t lying,exaggerating or just doing spin when they said this.






LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:19:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dont we export gas?


Yes...but we import fuel.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:21:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what the fuck does that asswipe have to do with?

You know our largest monetary import is petroleum product.  I goddamn sure aint going to point out his fucking slimyness after he is president while remaining silent now.

My being forced to buy goods and services from lack of choice due to craven corporate capitulation is a damn sight different than running around saying I am going to live in america and take advantage of its bounty, but fuckin gonna drop that fucker off the face of the earth when it wants benefit.

Hey, let's run Charlie Manson, and talk it over after we see how he does. 


Do explain to the class please how you're lacking in choices.




Owner59 -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:27:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dont we export gas?


Yes...but we import fuel.


What fuels are that ....that we import.....?

Take your time.




mnottertail -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:27:32 PM)

why dont you? 

You should have somewhat of a handle on it, Big Oil Capping Wells or out and out destroying them, sitting on acres and acres of idle land, Banks illegally juking interest, and mortgages, Pharma blocking alternative avenues of drugs, corporate capitulists allowing airline and telephone and media and other monopolies with not only guarded and carved franchises by law, but the ability to wipe out any competition thru unfair practices.

And on and on....




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:41:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: erieangel

The big question of the day seems to be when did Willard actually leave Bain Capital?

Willard has insisted for years that he left the company in 1999 in order to "save" the Olympics. Yet, in '02, when he was running for MA governor, he testified under oath that he had attended several board meetings, etc., both in person and over the phone. At the time, Willard was being forced to prove that he had been a resident of MA all along.

And Willard was paid "at least" $100,000 for each year between 1999 and 2002, when he actually did "officially" leave the company in order to run for MA governor.

So which is it, Willard.

I would love to see tax returns for those years. But Willard has said he has no intention of releasing any more tax returns except the 2011 return when he finally does file it.




I just looked at the calendar in Windows and....it's extremely clear (at least to me)....1999 is most distinctly not 2002.

(I know it seems crazy but....them are the facts).

As to why "Willard" (who the fuck is Willard, by the way) may have been paid $100,000.00 for each year between 1999 and 2002....let's do a little math shall we?

We all know that he's worth 200 million dollars.

(I'm gonna presume "Willard" is Romney).

So, for fucks sake (let's just run with this for a sec)....he tossed 150 million dollars into the ocean...pissed it all away....lit it on fire....that leaves 50 million.

In 1999, savings rates for a passbook account were between 4% and 6%.

Let's just say it was 3%...k?

$50,000,000,000.00 at 3% (if of course he was stupid enough to leave the entire 50 million in a savings account) would come to 1.5 million dollars.

EACH YEAR.

So, what you're saying is...."Willard" made less than 10% of what he could have made had he simply put his collective (1/4 of what he's worth today) in a passbook savings account (a CD would have paid 30% more still...but he wouldn't have figured that kind of shit out....he's a dumb ass right?), but that because he was paid $100,000.00 each year by (you didn't say...but I'll assume it was Bain Capital...seems logical since he was just shortly before, the CEO....so he would have had some thoughts on the way things might be run), he's an evil monster, incapable of feeling your pain.

Right.

Makes sense.

So, he opts to get paid 1/15th of what he could have earned in a savings account, he earned his millions by taking risk but....suddenly, in 1999, he decided to put everything in the worst possible investment available....and because of that....he's a shit for brains.

Bent on destroying jobs.

Okay....that makes perfect sense.

(For anyone that has absolutely no concept whatsoever of things as simple as MATH!!!!!)

I failed to mention/educate that...if we took all of the 4 years that "Willard" was paid the MASSIVE amount of $400,000.00, even that equates to less than 30% of what he would have made in ONE year at passbook savings rates.

Jeeeeeeezbuz.....how is it that a guy who's worth 200 million would have been that stoooopit?

Well, he's a dick...we all know that....destroying America...tha'ts for gawdamned sure.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:43:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dont we export gas?


Yes...but we import fuel.


What fuels are that ....that we import.....?

Take your time.



It's coming to me....uhhhhh....I know it's confusing.....oil?




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:44:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why dont you? 

You should have somewhat of a handle on it, Big Oil Capping Wells or out and out destroying them, sitting on acres and acres of idle land, Banks illegally juking interest, and mortgages, Pharma blocking alternative avenues of drugs, corporate capitulists allowing airline and telephone and media and other monopolies with not only guarded and carved franchises by law, but the ability to wipe out any competition thru unfair practices.

And on and on....


Sorry....missed your point there (I'm sure most others did as well)....and that has to do with Romney exactly....how?




Yachtie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:45:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dont we export gas?


After we import most of the oil and refine it. You bet. [8D]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 6:48:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Dont we export gas?


After we import most of the oil and refine it. You bet. [8D]


Again, you're confusing people with facts.




tazzygirl -> RE: Another problem for Romney: (7/13/2012 7:01:48 PM)

For the first time since 1949, the United States exported more gasoline, heating oil and diesel fuel last year than it imported, the Energy Department reported today.

Might want to double check and see if he uses diesel.

Slamming someone for buying fuel that we export is ridiculous in comparison to someone who states he is the best choice for President while admitting he is hegding his bets elsewhere on the globe.





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