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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 10:27:15 AM

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HATECHEW!!!!

Tattoos are NOT rushy in any way, except for the 'marked for life yay' bit. Little bursts of pain, rest while ink is refilled. Little burst of pain. Repeat until session is over, squee at results.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 10:31:33 AM

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HATECHEW!!!!

Tattoos are NOT rushy in any way, except for the 'marked for life yay' bit. Little bursts of pain, rest while ink is refilled. Little burst of pain. Repeat until session is over, squee at results.

I hated getting tattooed. Not a surprised since I'm not a lover of pain. To me it was an ordeal.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 10:32:19 AM

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HATECHEW!!!!

Tattoos are NOT rushy in any way, except for the 'marked for life yay' bit. Little bursts of pain, rest while ink is refilled. Little burst of pain. Repeat until session is over, squee at results.

HAH! They are for me! :P Although I will admit, when the artist needs to take a break longer than the few seconds it usually takes him to refill his ink.. it's always a pain when he first starts getting back to work, pun intended.

Bleshew, by the way. xD

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 10:33:45 AM

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I'm getting my grandmother's memorial piece finished this December...biggest ink yet. I'll let you know...

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 10:35:39 AM

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I'm getting my grandmother's memorial piece finished this December...biggest ink yet. I'll let you know...

Ooh.. okay.
I'm going in to talk to my artist soon about a piece I wanted.. over the shoulder, across the collarbones and down the chest.
Although I'm going to guess if you can't get a buzz off of a smaller piece, you won't get one off of a larger one. >< I'm sorry.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 11:16:21 AM

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It took me a good 12 months of training, staring very gently and getting harder before i could take the amount of pain that pleased Master.

He was very patient with me and because of that i trusted him implicitly. Gradually i was able to relax, as i did, i started to enjoy and get aroused by the floggings, given away by my pussy that is dripping wet.

i now crave a good flogging, cropping, caning and whipping and usually drift off into sub space, a wonderful place to be!

i still scream at the first few lashes but know it will soon turn to pleasure.

my point is take it gently, learn to relax and soon you will enjoy.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 11:43:11 AM

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Damn sadists.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 11:47:28 AM

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Damn sadists.

But you know you love us anyways! >D

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 4:10:03 PM

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I have quite a few tats but the pain of tats was nothing at all compared to the pain of a sadist. The only thing that gets me through the pain that Master inflicts upon me is his telling me how much he loves me, stroking me, wiping my tears, allowing me to orgasm and then holding and cuddling me afterwards. If it wasn't for the things he does for me I can say with certainty there is absolutely no way I would ever get through it.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/15/2012 4:45:38 PM

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I am not a masochist. When I bottomed, I sought out *intense* experiences, and in terms of what some term the "ordeal path", I still do. I have no endorphin reaction, and what others call subspace, I look at in confusion.

Try to reframe the pain in your mind as something else, heat, pressure, vibration, some other thing. Instead of "this hurts", think "this feels like____".

Many many people who engage in pain play are not masochists. They just *accept*. Endurance does come with practice, but you might only like it when it stops. That's okay, too.

Hope this helps.

What does that mean...."ordeal path"?

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/16/2012 4:35:23 PM

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Not a masochist either. However, it depends on who I am with.

With my ex, I did and experienced painful things in such a way that I never thought I would do.

Why? Because he loved it; it brought out the animal in him and I loved that.

I actually enjoyed the pain more during the time it was going, but totally HATED it after.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/16/2012 4:49:01 PM

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Lookie the 'ordeal path' is a quasi spiritual path where the person seeks somethingsomething with pain experiences. The Sun Dancer tradition is an example.

Me, it's partly the endless hunt for endorphins, and proving that I am 'strong enough'. A friend is on a shamanistic path, having out of body experiences and such. A friend who is a Sun Dancer joins with her version of the divine.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/16/2012 7:36:39 PM

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I have quite a few tats but the pain of tats was nothing at all compared to the pain of a sadist. The only thing that gets me through the pain that Master inflicts upon me is his telling me how much he loves me, stroking me, wiping my tears, allowing me to orgasm and then holding and cuddling me afterwards. If it wasn't for the things he does for me I can say with certainty there is absolutely no way I would ever get through it.

The guidance here, I have found to be important, the aftercare... just my own opinion. As much as I need to cause pain, it has always been in a relationship paradigm, my own personal albatross I suppose, and letting her know she is cared for, loved is very important for her to trust me to push her further...

As well as the fact I appreciate the intimacy after she has endured so much for my arousal.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/16/2012 8:07:27 PM

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I am a masochist, but when I first started out sometimes I couldn't take very much pain, depending on my mind set and his instrument of choice. We discussed it and came up with a plan; when I said the safe word, he would ask me if I could/would take so many more strokes; usually five or ten. It was not as difficult when I knew there was a finite number. Just a thought for you to try.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/27/2012 10:14:44 AM

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“I wish I could. I love everything about a spanking but the pain of it, and I find that my partners are incredibly put off by my lack of positive response to what is in every other way and incredibly hot moment. It really bothers me that I cannot seem to get there.”

It sounds like you are like me; you find spanking hot except for the pain of it. are you talking about spanking with the hand or with an implement? Because if you find even hand spanking too much to bear, then it sounds like it will be very tough for you to graduate to things like flogging, caning and whipping.

Or are you not interested in those? Are you asking simply how to enjoy the pain of spanking, either with hand or with an implement?

I have a question for those who answered and said they didn’t like pain but learned to tolerate and even enjoy it: what about after? After the flogging, isn’t your body in pain for quite some time? after a spanking, doesn’t your butt feel sore? It’s one thing to be able to learn to accept it in the moment but how do you manage to live with a sore but or body most of the time? I get cranky when I have an ache in any part of my body, so I can’t imagine being happy with constantly feeling achy or going about my daily life with a sore butt most of the time.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/27/2012 10:20:47 AM

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I get cranky when I have an ache in any part of my body, so I can’t imagine being happy with constantly feeling achy or going about my daily life with a sore butt most of the time.

OK, so I'm not a sadist and Carol is not a masochist. But really I think you're making more of this than there is in most cases. Carol and I used to have a fairly rough wool burber carpet in our house. We got to it in the living room one time and by the time I bothered to look down I'd left great big bloody stripes on the carpet. I'd worn through several layers of skin. It HURT... and I'm a guy who's pretty familiar with things like road rash.

During the moment it was all lost in the moment although the second the sex stopped my knees demanded a bit of attention. Afterwards the subtle pain was a reminder of a wild weekend. As near as I can tell, the only real difference between that and what you're talking about is the pain wasn't deliberately caused.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/27/2012 10:29:20 AM

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OKAY JEFF IS HAVING TOO MUCH DAMN FUN.

Kate, the aftereffects are enjoyable, too. Deep tissue bruising is amazing, and marks are fantastic souvenirs! It's a reminder of big fun! You have to really be pounded to be sore for days, and not too many novices go for that kind of thing--though I have met a few that were.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/27/2012 10:37:54 AM

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Kate - I can't take much pain, I'm a real softy. But if I'm lucky enough to be left with bruises or pains after it's finished, it feels yummy. It's a hot reminder. Completely different from aches and pains from being ill, for example. In fact, I just posted the other day about getting a cane to try, even though I hate the pain, because I know I will love the after effects and the idea of submitting to my husband's sadism.

I'm not saying that you would react the same way as me, but you can't compare having say, achy shoulders, to the ache after a spanking. It's not even close.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/27/2012 12:54:26 PM

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Dear Puella,

I was not always a masochist. My former Master used hypnosis to cultivate a co-mingled desire for pain and pleasure. Suffering for him became and intoxicating experience, one which quickly lit the flames of desire within me. I found that the promise of pain held the same space as the promise of pleasure. Anticipation broadened to include pain, so that my desires for it became as one with my desires for pleasure, until eventually the two were synonymous.

Eventually, a caress and a slap elicited the same type of response. At this point, the slap brings forth a greater reaction, a rush of emotion and desire. The first steps were through hypnosis.

Hypnotic suggestion can be brief and to the point. encouraging the participant to shift their view of pain so that it becomes associated with pleasure.

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RE: Learning to love pain? - 7/27/2012 12:55:58 PM

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Puella is on this thread? Where? Hows it going long time no see.

OMFG. the OP. I missed this thread entirely.

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