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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 2:38:45 PM   
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The not so surprising thing is, no matter what he attacks Romney with, he's done worse, and the usual suspects rise up in his defense.

So which American companies has teh Kenyan asset stripped and outsourced, then?

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 2:57:15 PM   
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You wouldnt give him a second chance because you never gave him a first chance! You have hated him for every success against incredible odds and intensive opposition.

I am not buying into partisan game theory. America does not have parties, the country is run by oligarchy. Obama is just one of them. They run a global game, and the concern about the fate of the ordinary Americans does not have any kind of high priority in the list. Jobless recovery, corporate America profits are the only thing that matters. There seems to be some concerns tough in Obama's mind, the police state build-up has been dramatically accelerated.
Interesting video how your present looks like in some areas, soon everywhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDCXzqgD99o&feature=player_embedded

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 4:21:49 PM   
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Honestly, I do not understand Obama apologists. There is no real leader, we have a smiley face with very little substance. The Bush ghost and Ben Bernanke are running the country. Obama had historic opportunity to be a great president, I see no reason for a second chance.

Here is the problem in a - ahem - 'nutshell'. There are far too many people on this site and out there in the world whose perception of reality is so distorted as to make them effectively insane, and said world view is set in cement. No amount of argument, reason, or cold hard fact will make any difference. This can't end good.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 5:04:27 PM   
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I've no idea what's on Obama's mind.

But as Romney wants to FURTHER expand the military and FURTHER expand tax cuts, both unfunded, exactly what got us into this structural economic mess . . .

Hell no Romney!



MM...one thing you're right on is...Republicans historically spend MORE money than Democrats (contrary to popular opinion...and excluding current scenarios which are somewhat unique) and with FEWER resources/demands/taxes within which to pay them...but gawdammit man....this Obama guy does not have a clue.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 5:07:00 PM   
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Obama trade deficit is record high. What it shows about his approach to outsourcing? If Obama really wants to win he should come out with some concrete economic plan.


"The Commerce Department said on Wednesday that the trade deficit fell 3.8 percent to $48.7 billion in May, down from $50.6 billion in April.

"Exports rose 0.2 percent to $183.1 billion. The increase reflected stronger sales of telecommunications equipment and heavy machinery. Exports to the 27-nation European Union rose 2.6 percent in May from April. Imports dropped 0.7 percent to $231.8 billion. The amount the United States spent on imported oil fell to the lowest level in 15 months.

"A narrower trade gap means the United States is spending less on foreign products, while taking in more from sales of American goods."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/12/business/economy/us-trade-deficit-declines-in-may.html


Actually, that's pretty damned impressive....now, take out Boeing (a bunch) and I don't have enough knowledge to say whether or not it'd have gone down or up but....still...all things being equal....that is impressive.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 5:11:29 PM   
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I am kind of allergic to attempts to bring out some small period data for spreading optimism. We have to be realistic: fundamentally nothing has changed and no realistic program has been activated to cure the problems.
The question, regarding Obama is: who is he working for? If we believe globalist conspiracy theory, economic collapse in the US is by design. After all the Federal Reserve has passed trillions to foreign banks and multinational conglomerates.


Trillions to foreign banks, eh? Could you show us the evidence from a legitimate source? Do you have any idea what a trillion dollars would look like? And your accusing the Obama administration of just handing them out to different banks like it was confetti.

President Obama works for the people of the United States of America. His job, is President. I'm sure you'll use a number of tinfoil hat conspiracies, but I require facts and evidence. Who does Mr. Romney work for? He certainly doesnt work towards the favor of the American people!



Speaking of Trillions...here's a fascinating approach to solving the U.S. (and the world) debt situation, by Robert Shiller, the fellow who called the debt crisis in housing some 7 years ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/07/10/robert-shillers-favorite-financial-innovation-an-ipo-for-the-usa/


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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 5:19:44 PM   
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I am kind of allergic to attempts to bring out some small period data for spreading optimism. We have to be realistic: fundamentally nothing has changed and no realistic program has been activated to cure the problems.
The question, regarding Obama is: who is he working for? If we believe globalist conspiracy theory, economic collapse in the US is by design. After all the Federal Reserve has passed trillions to foreign banks and multinational conglomerates.


Trillions to foreign banks, eh? Could you show us the evidence from a legitimate source? Do you have any idea what a trillion dollars would look like? And your accusing the Obama administration of just handing them out to different banks like it was confetti.

President Obama works for the people of the United States of America. His job, is President. I'm sure you'll use a number of tinfoil hat conspiracies, but I require facts and evidence. Who does Mr. Romney work for? He certainly doesnt work towards the favor of the American people!



Speaking of Trillions...here's a fascinating approach to solving the U.S. (and the world) debt situation, by Robert Shiller, the fellow who called the debt crisis in housing some 7 years ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/07/10/robert-shillers-favorite-financial-innovation-an-ipo-for-the-usa/


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Speaking of Trillions...here's a fascinating approach to solving the U.S. (and the world) debt situation, by Robert Shiller, the fellow who called the debt crisis in housing some 7 years ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/07/10/robert-shillers-favorite-financial-innovation-an-ipo-for-the-usa/


I like what Iceland did. If you kept the central banks out the equation, Robert Shiller's plan might be feasible. It's the arbitrage that would stifle it.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 5:45:19 PM   
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I am kind of allergic to attempts to bring out some small period data for spreading optimism. We have to be realistic: fundamentally nothing has changed and no realistic program has been activated to cure the problems.
The question, regarding Obama is: who is he working for? If we believe globalist conspiracy theory, economic collapse in the US is by design. After all the Federal Reserve has passed trillions to foreign banks and multinational conglomerates.


Trillions to foreign banks, eh? Could you show us the evidence from a legitimate source? Do you have any idea what a trillion dollars would look like? And your accusing the Obama administration of just handing them out to different banks like it was confetti.

President Obama works for the people of the United States of America. His job, is President. I'm sure you'll use a number of tinfoil hat conspiracies, but I require facts and evidence. Who does Mr. Romney work for? He certainly doesnt work towards the favor of the American people!



Speaking of Trillions...here's a fascinating approach to solving the U.S. (and the world) debt situation, by Robert Shiller, the fellow who called the debt crisis in housing some 7 years ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/07/10/robert-shillers-favorite-financial-innovation-an-ipo-for-the-usa/


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Speaking of Trillions...here's a fascinating approach to solving the U.S. (and the world) debt situation, by Robert Shiller, the fellow who called the debt crisis in housing some 7 years ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/07/10/robert-shillers-favorite-financial-innovation-an-ipo-for-the-usa/


I like what Iceland did. If you kept the central banks out the equation, Robert Shiller's plan might be feasible. It's the arbitrage that would stifle it.



There is no question, as the old story goes...."distribute all the world's wealth among all the world and within 12 - 36 months, there will those that have and....those that do not (the 99....and the 1)".

Arbitrage would play a part in the final game and it will absolutely end up with those that have and those that don't....and....

If everyone started out with the same....how it could it be anything but fair?

Of course, it wouldn't be....racism would toll the bell.

Natch.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 6:00:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can agree with quite a lot of what you said, except for the last part of it. Arbitrage does not operate on racial parameters. It is the game that central banks play with anyone, regardless of color, that isn't in the "chosen few."


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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 6:05:20 PM   
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I can agree with quite a lot of what you said, except for the last part of it. Arbitrage does not operate on racial parameters. It is the game that central banks play with anyone, regardless of color, that isn't in the "chosen few."




I concur, without deviation, still...racism would raise it's head because of course...it can't be fair that some have much and others have less.

And that, my friend is exactly why some have much....and others have less.

Because some do more and some do less.

Even when starting with exactly the same.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 6:32:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you suggesting that the ones who do less are of a particular race? I certainly hope that isn't what you are saying.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 6:51:25 PM   
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Are you suggesting that the ones who do less are of a particular race? I certainly hope that isn't what you are saying.


I'm saying that the statistics are clear....and if they suggest a specific race does more things that are societally less pleasing than others....it would seem (somewhat) logical to me that, as a race (or a person), they would want to sit down, instead of complaining why they're picked on, and rather, come up with a plan to do less of those things that get them into the bad statistics than those who subsequently are more represented in the good ones.

I'm fairly clear on the fact that if a kid gets D's, he's more than likely (assuming he doesn't have a deficiency in learning) to get C's or B's if he studies more.

Seems fairly basic to me.

If the kids that get C's or B's tend to drive Camaro's, I'd think a visit to the Chevy dealership would be in order.

If kids that get A's, B's and C's drink more Chamomile tea than those who tend to get D's....those kids should give some serious thought to loading up on Chamomile tea.

If quarterbacks tend to do better when they practice their throws, exercise more, run more....than those who do poorly as quarterbacks (and do fewer of those things)....I'm thinking practicing their throws, exercising more and running more would be a reasonable start in the right direction.



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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 7:12:17 PM   
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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/15/2012 7:45:20 PM   
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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/16/2012 6:40:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Obama campaigned on more transparency, but the widely supported bipartisan Audit the Fed bill has been around for awhile and he hasn't backed it yet. I'm not holding my breath. It's just more evidence that both Romney and Obama are part of the problem.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/16/2012 7:04:34 AM   
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Don't confuse it with reality.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/16/2012 7:21:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, If the money isn't there, shouldn't we audit the place where it was last seen? I don't know why you're blaming capitalism for non-transparency. Any form of government can take your money and hide it.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/16/2012 7:30:34 AM   
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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/16/2012 7:34:29 AM   
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Fucker didnt say he was gonna be see-thru.

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RE: Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem. - 7/16/2012 7:35:57 AM   
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Obama campaigned on more transparency, but the widely supported bipartisan Audit the Fed bill has been around for awhile and he hasn't backed it yet. I'm not holding my breath. It's just more evidence that both Romney and Obama are part of the problem.


It would be an interesting question to ask how much change the president potentially can provide? The fact is the Congress is largely detached from reality. Most people have been sitting there too long and they were not very bright to start with. So, the successful president needs to be really strong leader.
Historically, my memory allows to get a feeling starting from Reagan. He certainly was able to make changes. GH Bush was transitional figure and he did not do much. Bill Clinton was very important. He basically destroyed the Democrat party as it was known in the past, and he placed it firmly under corporate control. Deregulation of the financial industry by Clinton associates (Rubin, Summers, Greenspan) paved the way to today's problems. GW Bush was also important. He was a front man though, military and security apparatus was running the show. Demolishing the towers was very important event, it takes a certain mindset, arrogance and determination to do that. The event again was related to military/security apparatus interest, but the eminent economic collapse signs were possibly a part of the decision.
Obama has been a president of un-change. His desperate attempts to hold status quo against destructive forces are tragic and sad. "Magic negro" he was called when he was running for president first time. He has proved having a magical thinking all the way.
We can not make sure assumptions about Romney. People who support him hope he can do what Obama is obviously failing, to keep economy steady without much change. It is an illusion, of course. He is not a radical reform-minded, decisive figure for sure.


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