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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 10:49:03 AM   
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well this is what a modest rate of inflation translates into.




Terrific visual!

This is something I wonder about: It seems possible to me that inflation due to the banking system is like a green house gas that is messing up our ecosystem. It is like we are experiencing global warming in the global financial market via the same mechanism that is causing the real global warming.



well the right side is less than 1/2 of whats showing today.

The biggest problem is the people we elect to solve the problem are the ones who created it.

Like the queen whining that she has no fucking money, its a complete lie by ommission. She has that crown trust that she forgets to talk about.

Same with the states and their sub agencies and their trusts squirelling away money pulling it out of the public money supply forcing higher inflation. Dont expect MM or DK to grasp this as he is part of the problem.

http://cafr1.com/

There are over 30,000 gubafia agencies pulling money out of the system to the tune of 110 trillion dollars all the while screaming for more tax money!

so dont miss this!

Foster Gamble - Heir to the Proctor Gamble fortune brings up the CAFR issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-Pvr-eN7Eu8


so listen to this guy, its the way the gubafia operates when they are in the wrong or under the microscope.

So what chance do individuals have to secure their rights as penny ante pro se litigants when they treat huge corporate people with immensely deep pockets as explained in the above video.

Zippo! Nada! The people are fucked in this country, sold our souls for commerce and toys!





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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 11:00:42 AM   
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raising anything is a result of compensating for inflation.

the stock market goes up and down as a matter of inflation more than ANYTHING else.

Jefferson warned us about it as he signed the paperwork! LOL

Like everyone else who has famous words, they warn us about the dangers coming from their actions!

Then we quote it for 100 years rather than placing the blame squarely where it belongs.

Its the american way!


It is possible because inflation is like alternating current. If the analogy holds true, we use alternating current because it makes long distance power transmission over the power grid feasible. The same may also be true for economics. Alternating current isn't without its evils. Direct current is safer and more stable and easier to understand.

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 11:12:19 AM   
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raising anything is a result of compensating for inflation.

the stock market goes up and down as a matter of inflation more than ANYTHING else.

Jefferson warned us about it as he signed the paperwork! LOL

Like everyone else who has famous words, they warn us about the dangers coming from their actions!

Then we quote it for 100 years rather than placing the blame squarely where it belongs.

Its the american way!


It is possible because inflation is like alternating current. If the analogy holds true, we use alternating current because it makes long distance power transmission over the power grid feasible. The same may also be true for economics. Alternating current isn't without its evils. Direct current is safer and more stable and easier to understand.



thats a really bad analogy.

You are prpbly thinking of a stochastic rather than AC.

Like a pendulum swinging.

Granted inflation is a necesary evil I do not deny that, but we never deflate to zero, inflation continues to rise in an interest based fiat monetary system under keynsian economic model.

They condemn deflation and pretend that this system avoids nonliquidity but it does not. We still deflate and go into recessions and depressions and usually as a result of what the treasy and their ass buddies the federal reserve put into effect.

They abolished deflation to zero or near zero which WOULD RETAIN THE VALUE OF YOUR MONEY for a constantly rising deflation point where you lose money as a result of simply being alive and in this fucked up system.

they convinced everyone there is an acceptable yearly inflation rate that grows exponentially with time, precisely the same way interest earned works, and is destined to crash some day as that system always has.

Hence your retirement is being stolen from you!

It serves only the very and most wealthy and punishes everyone else.

I wont go into great detail because I dont have the time to write several volumes it would take to explain it all but this ocuntry needs a 2 tier monetary system and it needs to be put in the hands of a "legitimate" government NOT the gubafia we have now.

Right now they are raping this country for everything its got, its the english way.

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 11:23:28 AM   
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Has the system been perverted? I think most people today would say yes, it has been perverted. Was there a risk that the system could be perverted that was understood from the beginning? There is evidence for this, but isn't some risk necessary? In business you strive to minimize unnecessary risk, but you don't eliminate risk altogether. If you did, your business would likely go no where and may even fail.

This point you raised concerning CAFR may be an example of a city government attempting to eliminate risk altogether and that is the real problem. They are mitigating their risk at the expense of everyone else.

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 11:47:42 AM   
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I think MM and RO share more in common than they think.

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 11:51:25 AM   
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I could imagine MM saying to himself, "I share nothing in common with him! NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING!"

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 12:58:29 PM   
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Has the system been perverted? I think most people today would say yes, it has been perverted. Was there a risk that the system could be perverted that was understood from the beginning? There is evidence for this, but isn't some risk necessary? In business you strive to minimize unnecessary risk, but you don't eliminate risk altogether. If you did, your business would likely go no where and may even fail.

This point you raised concerning CAFR may be an example of a city government attempting to eliminate risk altogether and that is the real problem. They are mitigating their risk at the expense of everyone else.



with OFF BOOK money?

Where is that in anyones constitution or stats?


How about professor, ex attorney general Fine who is now in prison in the land of the FREE for exposing the california courts fraud upon the people and attempting to file suit through holder?

If you try to FIX it they throw you in prison and use the media to condemn you and the general public is none the wiser. stoopid fucks.





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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 1:01:05 PM   
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I could imagine MM saying to himself, "I share nothing in common with him! NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING!"



mostly on certain topics that involve gubafia and money

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/22/2012 3:27:01 PM   
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I handed it to you on a silver plater Musicmystery and you denied it.

What the fuck are you on about now?

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/23/2012 12:39:25 AM   
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probably like gun control. all the facts you chose to ignore about how futile it is and that there is less crime with more guns not the other way around

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RE: Why do we fear taxes? - 7/23/2012 7:01:20 AM   
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Still wrestling with that elusive thread topic concept, aren't cha.

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