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Without the NRA You would have been regulated to muzzle loaders long time ago.

Without the NRA, people would be buying guns responsibly, with waiting periods and background checks, and not stocking up at gun shows -- like Holmes just did.

You keep going on about that...but the fact remains that it varies by state and a lot of states already have waiting periods and background checks......whether the guns are bought at a gun show or not.

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Without the NRA You would have been regulated to muzzle loaders long time ago.

Without the NRA, people would be buying guns responsibly, with waiting periods and background checks, and not stocking up at gun shows -- like Holmes just did.

You keep going on about that...but the fact remains that it varies by state and a lot of states already have waiting periods and background checks......whether the guns are bought at a gun show or not.

At gun shows you need a background check if you buy from a dealer. If I Buy from my neighbor either across the fence or a a gun show I don't as long the transfer is legal in the state.

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yeah, but believe me, like locks, it keeps the honest people honest, if they got it without paper they are many of them running stopsigns as it were.

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The AR-15 used in Colorado for example was designed and built for the US military.....I'd say that makes it an assault weapon....The military rarely buys weapons not made to KILL PEOPLE....I'd say killing is indeed assault.

You can make your own definitions but it doesn't make them official. M16's are produced for the military, theAR15 is a semi-auto look alike produced for civillians.

Bullshit

Armalite made the AR-15 to sell to the military. The entire history of the AR-15 is tied to selling a rifle to the US military. The immediate predecessor to the AR-15 was the AR-10 (essentially a 7.62N weapon that looks almost exactly like an AR-15) which was rejected by the US Army back in th 1950's. The AR-15 was developed at the direct request of General Willard Wyman as an entrant to the .223 caliber weapon program.

Thanks for the little tid big on gun history but what I stated is correct. The M 16 is military and the Ar 15 is a semi auto look alike. So bullshit on your bullshit.

Wrong again.

The designation M16 is simply what the military calls the selective fire AR-15's they bought. It's like how the M9 is also the Beretta 92F.

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yeah, but believe me, like locks, it keeps the honest people honest,

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yeah, but believe me, like locks, it keeps the honest people honest, if they got it without paper they are many of them running stopsigns as it were.

Most laws only keep the honest people honest. I know at the local gun show, you cannot bring a weapon into the show without it being logged by the sheriff. (All bags are checked on the way into the show.) If someone else leaves with that weapon, it will get noticed.

So, really, the only way to sell at the gun show without going through an FFL, would be a parking lot deal which actually has nothing to do with the gun show.

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One of the last places in the fucking universe you wanna open up on the fuckin people that cause you to see psychedelic shit coming out your orifices is a gun show.

It wouldn't be your best day on earth.

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But if anyone ever wanted to shoot a 6,000 round per minute mini gun or any other fully automatic weapon, twice a year there is a machine gun shoot just outside of Louisville. Almost every gun you can imagine is available to shoot, from gatling guns and liquid cooled Brownings, to mini guns. . . . . You buy the ammo from the owner. I can't afford to drop that kinda cash for a few seconds myself, but plenty of people do. It is quite an experience if nothing else . . .
http://www.knobcreekrange.com/events/featured-events/machine-gun-shoot

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At gun shows you need a background check if you buy from a dealer.

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No, not in all cases, in fact, not in most cases, you fill it out and they work it out later, in the meantime, you are gone with the gun.

That is the gunshow loophole that the legislators, for years, and years, and years (since around mid 70s) have been trying to close.

And before anybody blowholes some stupid shit at me, I am an FFL and am very knowledgeable about ALL gun laws. I buy and sell them for a living. 

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But to the NRA, complete deregulation is more important than lives.

I own guns and think the NRA is insane.

Without the NRA You would have been regulated to muzzle loaders long time ago.

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You want to go round and round over semantics then have a blast. The point I was making on my original post is the semi-auto that civillains can buy will be designated as AR-15. The military select fire version will be designated M-16 and mainly the fact that the semi-auto version is by definition not an assault rifle. Good Grief.

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You want to go round and round over semantics then have a blast. The point I was making on my original post is the semi-auto that civillains can buy will be designated as AR-15. The military select fire version will be designated M-16 and mainly the fact that the semi-auto version is by definition not an assault rifle. Good Grief.

The AR-15 is by definition an assault rifle. It is a lighter weight weapon firing a high velocity low caliber cartridge. It is lighter than the traditional battle rifle, for instance FN-FAL or M14, but heavier than the present generation of submachineguns.

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But to the NRA, complete deregulation is more important than lives.

I own guns and think the NRA is insane.

Without the NRA You would have been regulated to muzzle loaders long time ago.

I have a muzzle loader, it is wick type, meaning there is a long cord with urine on it that cause the spark to ignite the gun powder, it fun, I enjoy it, and no I am not a member of the NRA...

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