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lovmuffin -> RE: 2nd amendment (7/26/2012 2:40:46 PM)
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
A few police agencies use the 1911 but do to safety concerns lacking in the design there are not too many.
1911a1s or a2s or if there are a3 modifications (which is all you could get, since LEOs would not use the antiques) have 7 separate safeties, so I could not figure how there are safety concerns lacking in the design unless you are a goddamn fool and stick your thumb web under the hammer (you would have to have a wierd grasp), or get your knuckle under or stick your thumb up directly behind the reciever, I dunno.......how the fuck they could come to that.
Some of the current A2 models if not most are made with drop safeties. Then there are the models with manual ambidextrous safeties and then of course the grip safety. That makes 4 but maybe just 3 because with the ambidextrous one whether you engage or disengage it from right or left, it's still only one saftey. I don't have a clue what the other 3 or 4 are. Please enlighten me. I'm not familiar with the A3 but there is such a thing if I'm not mistaken. I'm not all that familiar with the A2 other than a couple of articles that I've read.
Plenty of god damn fools out there. Though the instances of accidental discharges with a1911's I know of first hand were many years ago, 1911 safety concerns are common knowledge which I'm sure you know. The newer drop safety features address the most common one, that is the numb nut who carries or stores it loaded with hammer down over a live round. Mine doesn't have that particular feature so when loaded it's cocked and locked, holstered with the retaining strap between the hammer and firing pin, finger won't touch the trigger till ready to shoot.
I believe another problem with 1911 safety is unless you have the grip safety depressed then it can go off in the hands of a numb nut and he can shoot his foot or someone else, it's not fail safe. The other thing would be that I don't think the A2 has a magazine safety similar to the Browning High Power. With the
magazine detached from the pistol a numb nut can have an AD when he thinks it's unloaded. The other concern would be an accidental discharge by for example a cop keeping his weapon trained on a suspect with the safety off. A double action semi-auto would address that one.
I'm aware of a security guard back in I think the 70's who dropped his 1911, hammer down on a live round which went off hitting and killing his coworker. I know of another time (heard this one from a cop) a numb nut cop was in a police station bathroom taking a crap who carried it in his waist band. He hung it up by the trigger guard on a hook with the safety disengaged. It went off quite a few times but no one was hit. I can't remember when that one happened. There are many more instances of 1911 mishaps out there I know. Many of the more modern designs address some of the safety concerns of the 1911's, especially since the advent of double action semi-autos. That would be the extent of my knowledge on these details but by all means I welcome your expertise on the subject.
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