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OsideGirl -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/2/2012 4:23:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Endivius

I've never been into Bowling, it's just not a sport I can respect. If that makes me a dick so be it. And women bowlers? Might as well watch paint dry. It's just as exciting and at least the paint won't make me feel guilty for watching 40 yr old lesbians dressed in men's clothing chest bumb eachother for getting a spare.


I have bowling listed as a hard limit.




Andalusite -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/5/2012 4:04:50 PM)

Well, I have helped my former submissive lose weight, but we were already dating at the time, and I was attracted to him as he was. I didn't use punishment or anything particularly extreme about it, but had him keep an exercise and food log, and we went on a lot of physically active dates together (indoor rock climbing, dancing, hiking, etc). My last submissive wasn't overweight, but she and I did do a lot of walking, yoga, etc. together.

In a couple of my relationships, the man I was with helped me with my stretches for my gymnastics class, and we occasionally incorporated stretches and challenging positions into our kink (using bondage or command to "freeze" and hold a particular position while he thwacked me). I think that the occasional scene as a drill instructor or personal trainer or some such roleplay could be fun, but generally, I wouldn't want to put a lot of work into someone who I wasn't attracted to.




DominantTweaker -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/13/2012 4:42:44 PM)

Mr Focus50 put it simply and to the point. 'thumbs up'.

Myself I get a LOT of obese sub women and men ( I am Bi ) at the beginning want to engender a D/s relationship with Me.

I do not turn them away 'even tho' I am NOT attracted to obese sub's.

Being obese is a facet of Your inner heavy sad self manifesting on the outside , it is one of the few outer manifestations that can change thru a new lifestyle perspective and journey to unfold a completely new person which is GREAT , and I want anyone who is very obese to know that You CAN be kind of 're born' so think positive.

I have never connected completely with a very obese sub to the point of placing a collar on her or him, why , because of all the obese sub's I have met they do not want Me to literately train them all the way, and they have not been realy ready to put in the hard personal work 'themselves' under My tutelage / leadership to be the high standard human being they can be. Mostly they want Me to save them and no one can save another person from Your own adult responsibility to look after Your own health.

*Sigh, I am what You mite call a 'positively polarized' Man I look at a person and see their potential vs there present state, I route for the underdog.

I have heard all the excuses, " I have diabetes" ... " I have arthritis" ... " It is genetic" ... " I have chronic fatigue syndrome" ... "I have bad knees" , flat feet etc...etc...

Truth is, that 'physically' is it a matter of mathematics, calories in and stored vs calories out and burned.

Example: anyone who goes to a Nazi concentration camp for 1 year no matter how morbidly obese will be slim as an NBA center forward it's al math baby lol.

The sticky wicket is your inner emotions, the problem is in your mind and psyche.

Many obese people eat to comfort themselves to replace the mother they never had or lost , they are their own mom.

Many obese women are heavy as a self defense protection from the gross sexual attention and advances from sexually abusive selfish male pig's ( beauty & sexual attractiveness has a definite down side ) as any Master / Dominant Man knows that the so called "perfect 10 " female sub can hide a HUGE ego and never wish to be truly tamed and surrender to Master.

Beautiful women can many times be like left a handed fighter and tennis player, they get more attention and score more points for some thing they did not even work for and more ego support than is healthy and they can be monstrously narcissistic and make crappy shallow parents and life partners.

Digressing: when some obese women reach adulthood they can miss some of the rote ego support through sexual attention they never got that they wish they had in moderation they end up being VERY promiscuous in order to gain back some of what they never had.

Some obese women become total sluts to 'get back' at men and have some control of the men who never loved them by trying to become a fix / fixation to the men and get close to the handsome guys they know will never marry them.

This can get real deep and perhaps is not for this forum ?

Please excuse me if I talk about obese sub's as a clinical 'thing' and not as a precious individual human being , ok.

I look at the true submissive ( obese for sure ) differently than I do a vanilla obese sub, and defiantly different that a Dominant person, I see that they in a positive way they NEED guidance , training, discipline, self discipline, leadership, an example etc.... more so than any Dominant Woman or Man, and so this is My job much like the Marines take a sad sack soft ball of goo and strip away the civilian laissez faire malaise to reveal the highly tuned machine .

Many times the obese person needs to be injected with self confidence by proxy.

Conversely most of the time they tend to look for a savior to save them from their own self pity and chronic doubt and I shy away from ANY sub looking for Me to save them because when a person puts You up on a pedestal and then they see that You are not the perfect person Man God that they made You out to be they will try to break down the altar they put You on it's called love - hate )

Jesus saves You 'from' what you are, the Marines demand you to be the best you 'can' be , and Master is some were in the middle , lol.

Wrapping this up, ti do not reject the sincere BBW or obese Male, but I am VERY strict and picky I have to be I only have one life and so much time to put into any sub to be my eventual slave.

I hope this rant has been helpful to all the BBW's who are looking for guidance and a friendly "U Go Girl"





JeffBC -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/13/2012 6:14:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub
But, it also is not impossible that there could be that "twitch" upon meeting a fat chick, and, after discovering her deepest self, you decide that you would be willing to be her cheerleader and motivator, in all aspects, not just health.

This was kind of what happened to Carol and I. I'm not joking when I say she was everything I wasn't looking for in a partner. That included her body shape. But you know what. She was "close enough" that the other amazingly wonderful attributes of her personality were, apparently, enough to get a wedding ring out of me. So now I help her deal with her various shortcomings and issues... just as she helps me deal with mine... like two people who love each other. Again, the only real difference between us is how that help plays out. From me, it ends up being "helpful commands". From her it ends up being, "helpful service".




wittynamehere -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/13/2012 6:17:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AngelinChainz
Doms that do not accept BBWs

Nobody has to accept anyone else as their partner unless they want to. Just because somebody has 'dominant' on their dating profile doesn't mean they must date fat women.
This sounds like it didn't need to be said, and it sounds very obvious, but apparently it DID need to be said.
I wasn't attracted to fat when I dated vanilla girls, and I'm still not attracted to fat now that I date submissive girls.




SlipSlidingAway -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/13/2012 7:59:28 PM)

Sort of replying to both Jeff and wittynamehere at the same time.

This really is not a D/s thread so much as a relationship thread.  I mean, the op was possibly expecting more from a Dom than from the vanilla ilk of menfolk, and I suppose that is because they have the ability to 'command' or 'direct' a partner more due to the power exchange.  However, as wittynamehere has mentioned, what was aesthetically pleasing in a vanilla sense did not change much when looking at submissives.

However, I love what Jeff said.  I have a friend, vanilla, who had exceptionally high standards.  He was always cutting girls down for one reason or another.  They were too short, too tall, had too small an ass, had too big of an ass.  You get the idea.  He was so focused on looks and physical attributes that when he did date, the girls he ended going out with were pretty and well built, but they usually had nothing in common with him (or they were nuckin' futz!).  To make a long story short, he met a girl a couple of years ago who he could not possibly fathom dating.  She was on the "low side of average" in looks (his words, not mine!); and while she was smart, and a kind, caring girl- he just could not get past her mediocrity.  Still, they started hanging out, as just friends...

They are getting married next year.  He has never been happier in his entire life.  And now he sees her through completely different lenses.  She is beautiful, because he loves her, and because she is the entire package.  She's not just the sum of her appearance, there is so much more, and he feels like the luckiest guy in the world to have her in his life. 

Sometimes, you just don't know what's going to happen.  Chemistry is a funny thing...




JeffBC -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/13/2012 10:37:58 PM)

*laughs* My story was a little different. I never was one to chase the hot girls. The insides of people are much, much more visible to me than their outsides. Give me "good enough" and I'm "good to go". But I'd had some bad lovers and they'd convinced me that... you know... because I liked sex I was some sort of deviant. So after the divorce I decided that if I was a deviant then I suppose I needed some stripper or something to make me happy. I wasn't particularly thrilled with that reasoning but *shrug*. Even were that not true my tastes were corporate... think heels, suits & pencil skirts. Carol was a mature, intelligent art chick wearing clown pants when I met her *laughs*. Not exactly the stripper chick I'd convinced myself I needed OR the polished corporate woman.

My favorite line regarding it comes from the indiana jones movie...
[image]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/R6H-KLBbjCI/AAAAAAAAJPw/4rkwb3JkvTI/s400/indy17-he+chose+poorl.jpg[/image]

Except for in my case it was just as dramatically, "He chose wisely".




FrostedFlake -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/13/2012 11:27:14 PM)

Disclosure : I skipped the comments.

I don't like the idea of connecting a relationship with a body image goal.

It sounds like a good way to fuck up each with the other.

I could go on, but, why? I think I have already said it all.

Edit to add : I'm not a dom. Now how could I have forgotten to say that?




sunshinemiss -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 4:43:48 AM)

Dude, you really ought to pass the bong.




sexyred1 -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 11:52:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DominantTweaker

Mr Focus50 put it simply and to the point. 'thumbs up'.

Myself I get a LOT of obese sub women and men ( I am Bi ) at the beginning want to engender a D/s relationship with Me.

I do not turn them away 'even tho' I am NOT attracted to obese sub's.

Being obese is a facet of Your inner heavy sad self manifesting on the outside , it is one of the few outer manifestations that can change thru a new lifestyle perspective and journey to unfold a completely new person which is GREAT , and I want anyone who is very obese to know that You CAN be kind of 're born' so think positive.

I have never connected completely with a very obese sub to the point of placing a collar on her or him, why , because of all the obese sub's I have met they do not want Me to literately train them all the way, and they have not been realy ready to put in the hard personal work 'themselves' under My tutelage / leadership to be the high standard human being they can be. Mostly they want Me to save them and no one can save another person from Your own adult responsibility to look after Your own health.

*Sigh, I am what You mite call a 'positively polarized' Man I look at a person and see their potential vs there present state, I route for the underdog.

I have heard all the excuses, " I have diabetes" ... " I have arthritis" ... " It is genetic" ... " I have chronic fatigue syndrome" ... "I have bad knees" , flat feet etc...etc...

Truth is, that 'physically' is it a matter of mathematics, calories in and stored vs calories out and burned.

Example: anyone who goes to a Nazi concentration camp for 1 year no matter how morbidly obese will be slim as an NBA center forward it's al math baby lol.
The sticky wicket is your inner emotions, the problem is in your mind and psyche.

Many obese people eat to comfort themselves to replace the mother they never had or lost , they are their own mom.

Many obese women are heavy as a self defense protection from the gross sexual attention and advances from sexually abusive selfish male pig's ( beauty & sexual attractiveness has a definite down side ) as any Master / Dominant Man knows that the so called "perfect 10 " female sub can hide a HUGE ego and never wish to be truly tamed and surrender to Master.

Beautiful women can many times be like left a handed fighter and tennis player, they get more attention and score more points for some thing they did not even work for and more ego support than is healthy and they can be monstrously narcissistic and make crappy shallow parents and life partners.

Digressing: when some obese women reach adulthood they can miss some of the rote ego support through sexual attention they never got that they wish they had in moderation they end up being VERY promiscuous in order to gain back some of what they never had.

Some obese women become total sluts to 'get back' at men and have some control of the men who never loved them by trying to become a fix / fixation to the men and get close to the handsome guys they know will never marry them.

This can get real deep and perhaps is not for this forum ?

Please excuse me if I talk about obese sub's as a clinical 'thing' and not as a precious individual human being , ok.

I look at the true submissive ( obese for sure ) differently than I do a vanilla obese sub, and defiantly different that a Dominant person, I see that they in a positive way they NEED guidance , training, discipline, self discipline, leadership, an example etc.... more so than any Dominant Woman or Man, and so this is My job much like the Marines take a sad sack soft ball of goo and strip away the civilian laissez faire malaise to reveal the highly tuned machine .

Many times the obese person needs to be injected with self confidence by proxy.

Conversely most of the time they tend to look for a savior to save them from their own self pity and chronic doubt and I shy away from ANY sub looking for Me to save them because when a person puts You up on a pedestal and then they see that You are not the perfect person Man God that they made You out to be they will try to break down the altar they put You on it's called love - hate )

Jesus saves You 'from' what you are, the Marines demand you to be the best you 'can' be , and Master is some were in the middle , lol.

Wrapping this up, ti do not reject the sincere BBW or obese Male, but I am VERY strict and picky I have to be I only have one life and so much time to put into any sub to be my eventual slave.

I hope this rant has been helpful to all the BBW's who are looking for guidance and a friendly "U Go Girl"




Your entire post (incoherent rant) is offensive. The bolded line in particular above is disgusting. Your attempt at generalizing an entire group of people is silly and I doubt you are qualified as a therapist of any kind. I doubt any woman would consider your rant to be helpful or friendly.

You need to lay off the crystal meth you are so proud of that you mention in your profile and learn some better communication skills.




LaTigresse -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 1:16:28 PM)

Well now he has cleared his profile but his very chosen name still makes his a loser.

Why anyone would think being a 'tweaker' was cool just goes to show how many brain cells have already been fried.




sexyred1 -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 3:39:52 PM)

I am sorry he removed it from his profile, it would be good for his "prospects" to know. But the tweaker nick should be warning enough.




Killerangel -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 5:47:00 PM)

The open usage of drugs and talking about it may have prompted the site to ask him to remove the visual and written references to illegal drug use.




DominantTweaker -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 7:53:17 PM)

1st the reference to a Nazi camp granted is an extreme example to give one a solid factual basis about the mathematical FACT of calories in vs calories out NOT to make light of anyone body composition, nor to generalize and dump people into a mass ( You obviously did not read my 'rant' )


Funny how if a few people join together after your foment to Me to gang up on an innocent person, and that all of a sudden justifies your out of order sentiments , nay it does not ?


The sheer magnitude of your what seams to Me to be 'hatred' sizzling through the keyboard at Me and overly broad generalizations about honest good meaning persons such as Myself tell Me indeed You are thee antithesis of what you clam to be.

I take no offense to Your venial aggressiveness to Me, I dont know for sure but possibly your flame at Me is from being violated by a 'tweaker' who may have broken into your car one day in the past and stole your purse and the biscotti in your dash while coming out of Sartbucks ?

((( thought bubble ))) > " Dam TWEAKERS we should burn them all alive and serve them to rats in Wasabi sauce "

Cheer up I will soon be dead, till then cant we ah hhh ahhh will all play nice nice




DominantTweaker -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/14/2012 7:56:06 PM)

(game show buzzer ) "ARRGGGGGG "

( show host ) I'm sorry chuck that was a wrong answer would You like to try : " He hides it once in awhile to avoid all the HATRED for being honest, for 50 points ? "






LaTigresse -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/15/2012 9:03:53 AM)

Bless your heart.



And your fried brain.

And your rotting teeth.

And the family that mourns the loss of a loved one.




LadyPact -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/15/2012 9:31:17 AM)

I can't be the only one who finds it completely ironic that somebody named Tweaker is lecturing people on being overweight/obese and/or weight loss. I have to wonder if the folks who write him are looking for that "special" diet plan?

That's the kind of funny that you just can't make up.




sexyred1 -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/15/2012 9:47:59 AM)

No, you are not the only one to find this funny, LadyPact, that is why I wrote what I did. It just boggles the mind.




LaTigresse -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/15/2012 12:15:09 PM)

Indeed.

Here in the midwest, meth is damned near an epidemic. I drive by several houses that are boarded up because they are contaminated due to prior residents 'cooking'. The houses are now a toxic waste site and most local governments do not have funds to deal with them. I drive past a farm where a house was literally blown up a few months ago. You can spot a meth head almost immediated, once you know what to look for. And, what most of them do not realize is that you can also smell them. They have a very distinct scent.




littlewonder -> RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs (8/15/2012 2:12:28 PM)

ok, I can't resist:

What's the difference between a crackhead and a tweaker?
The crackhead will steal your shit and bounce--the tweaker will steal your shit and then help you look for it.




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