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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 8:47:08 AM   
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Very well said Stella.


Indeed.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 9:39:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can remember a couple of times in the far past where I went off my anti-depressive meds and boy was I a wreck! I thought I was good without them, that hey, I don't need them anymore because I'm happy and life is going smoothly! Boy was I wrong! I ended up sicker than a dog, depression back, wracked with headaches and anxiety attacks and just wanting to kill myself.

One day I woke up though, looked at my daughter and realized I needed to do something to get better so I started taking them again and within a couple of weeks I was back to normal again.

Those meds save my life. When I'm on them Master can tell the difference in me. I'm happier and more alert. Without them I spiral out of control. So basically, people go off meds because in their minds they no longer have to take them, they can function without them, until they go off and their life is just hell. Usually if you've been around here long enough you can usually figure out who has not taken their meds lately. They usually become very agitated in their posts. The posts start not making sense or are erratic and angry.

But like I said in my first post, I think we find more people like that here because bdsm seems to attract those people who are on the fringes of society.




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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 9:47:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I decided that since I felt so good from exercise and eating properly, I could come off Celexa. It worked for several weeks, then I realized I was having panic, and not wanting to go exercise, and was, in general, just down.

I have accepted that my brain is screwy. The way my doctor explained it to me was we all have a bucket in our head, with the chemicals needed to deal with stressers. When needed, a hole in the bucket opens, and releases those chemicals. Then, the hole closes, allowing the bucket to refill, until needed again.

Folks like me have the bucket, but the holes never close up, so you never get to have your bucket refilled.

I just know that I feel so much better, in a way that I can't even pinpoint, not being high or anything, just feel more "normal".

Theres a hole in the bucket in my head!!! That could be a grunge rock song!!!

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 9:53:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		We talk more about stuff here. If you can talk about your desire to be fucked by a guy in a Bozo the clown outfit, then you can talk about what meds you are and aren't on. Plus it's axiomatic that you should share what medical issues you have in order to play safely.

Also, most psychotropic meds lessen the libido and/or performance and orgasm. So if you're here to get your kinky rocks off, it's unlikely you're going to put up with these side effects.

My bipolar daughter is supposed to be dead. According to the textbooks, people with her variant don't survive age 20. She's the first to graduate high school, first to graduate college, and is going back for her master's in a year. Yes her life will be shorter than someone not on these meds. But she'll have 20 or 30 productive, happy and healthy years in the meantime.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 10:24:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wish every day that I could throw away those antidepressants. I miss my "self" more than I can tell you. I used to be SMART. I could think fast, move fast, get things done, have easy orgasms... I used to be exuberant, and energetic, and creative!

I exchanged all that for flatline functionality, and a lifetime of being a shadow of myself. I think I did the right thing, what with having to make a living, and not make my family crazy with my mindless crying jags.

If I were a diabetic, or had high blood pressure, I would medicate for those things. I have bad brain chemistry, and a family history that shows me it's largely genetic. It's a thing. Lots of folks have a similar thing, and being in BDSM has nothing to do with it. We're a cross section of the population, many of us communicate on the internet, where oversharing is virtually de rigeur, and our medical histories are a part of that. Yes, there are those that think BDSM is a substitute for therapy, but they are a minority.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 12:14:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I wish every day that I could throw away those antidepressants. I miss my "self" more than I can tell you. I used to be SMART. I could think fast, move fast, get things done, have easy orgasms... I used to be exuberant, and energetic, and creative!

I exchanged all that for flatline functionality, and a lifetime of being a shadow of myself. I think I did the right thing, what with having to make a living, and not make my family crazy with my mindless crying jags.

If I were a diabetic, or had high blood pressure, I would medicate for those things. I have bad brain chemistry, and a family history that shows me it's largely genetic. It's a thing. Lots of folks have a similar thing, and being in BDSM has nothing to do with it. We're a cross section of the population, many of us communicate on the internet, where oversharing is virtually de rigeur, and our medical histories are a part of that. Yes, there are those that think BDSM is a substitute for therapy, but they are a minority.


This, Littlewonder, JstAnotherSub & LadyPact summed it all up beautifully.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 12:49:25 PM   
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Yes, I think a large percentage of the "community" here use some form of anti-depressant or psychotropic drug; I know I do.

Yes, I think a large percentage of the "community" has suffered from abusive or trauma in the past, often in childhood; I know I did.

What does this say about our "community?"

It says that we are part of the human community at large, where large percentages of people use psychotropic drugs and have suffered from abuse or trauma in their pasts.

Now, do I think that as a "fringe" sub-culture we attract a few more crazy types than the average? Probably. I seriously doubt the percentage is significant.



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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 12:55:42 PM   
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It's a world of folks.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 1:16:47 PM   
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I wish every day that I could throw away those antidepressants. I miss my "self" more than I can tell you. I used to be SMART. I could think fast, move fast, get things done, have easy orgasms... I used to be exuberant, and energetic, and creative!

I exchanged all that for flatline functionality, and a lifetime of being a shadow of myself. I think I did the right thing, what with having to make a living, and not make my family crazy with my mindless crying jags.

If I were a diabetic, or had high blood pressure, I would medicate for those things. I have bad brain chemistry, and a family history that shows me it's largely genetic. It's a thing. Lots of folks have a similar thing, and being in BDSM has nothing to do with it. We're a cross section of the population, many of us communicate on the internet, where oversharing is virtually de rigeur, and our medical histories are a part of that. Yes, there are those that think BDSM is a substitute for therapy, but they are a minority.




For me it was just the opposite. Without the meds, I'm just a shadow, a recluse and barely get out of bed or smile. When I'm on them I have a life again and I have much more functionality and energy.

The only thing I miss is my intelligence, my brain. On the meds I find I can't remember anything at all and it's very difficult for me to focus.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 2:40:36 PM   
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Something many people are not aware of, is precisely how badly these meds can affect you.




Bingo.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 2:41:46 PM   
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The thing about medication and mental illness is that it's not always given to treat the mental illness itself, but to alleviate the symptoms and bring relief to make it easier for those who suffer to function and cope better.



The meds are given primarily for benefit of society and for the pharma companies. Consideration for the afflicted falls way down the line.

Those of us who grew up with a "dysfunctional" person had no need for this approach any more than the afflicted person did. But once we all get to adulthood, we realize how stuck in this modality 'normal' people are, and how little tolerance or perspective exists in the world, whatever colour as it presents. All you have to do is to know the person, sometimes, which the normal schools and work place do not allow.

I am somewhat bothered by the increasingly incessant and inescapable noise in the world. One cannot visit a store of any sort, a mall, a public place, the public transportation, or even a parking lot, not even the uni library!, without hearing some sort of 'loud conversation with a remote party,' noise of infinite variety, or 'music,' in the process. I was born with sensitive ears, pitch memory, a sharp ear for music, etc., but now that society has chosen to beleaguer us with incessant noise, -I- am the one who needs to take a pill?, if this "new 'normal'" bothers me to the point of distraction concerning what is expected of me elsewhere? At school, at work? When I get home and deal with others there?

I highly recommend Quaalude, in abundance, for those running the corporations, those who come up with these 'social networks,' those who 'produce' movies, TV shows, politicians, the media in general etc., that drive any thinking person buggers. Just imagine the effect of their incessant efforts on "the afflicted."

The media did not bother to tell us that each and everyone of these school and other public shootings were done by those on societally/'conventionally'/medically prescribed drugs, did they?

DID THEY?



Let's get it straight just which party needs to be taking the meds, here, if we endeavor to put society arights.

You would be utterly gobsmacked at how many people do NOT need "meds," were we only dispense large quantities of Quaalude to the appropriate parties.




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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 3:32:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

None of those things: This site deals with extremely personal issues in a way that demands openness and this may make them feel safe admitting that.

I have a few friends with loved ones that stop taking their psych meds. It's apparently very common. The general progression is:

A) Take pills and feel better.
B) Stop taking pills because you feel you don't need them anymore.
C) Go back to having major problems.
D) Have an intervention where you are pretty much forced to take pills.
E) Rinse and repeat.


That was either remarkably uninformed or....you're just an asshole.

It's not that simple, and I suspect you're not an asshole (but, you could be).

Mental health is a very delicate chamber of discernment.

Those that are on the knife's edge need a whole lot more than simply "rinse and repeat", and frankly...it's not available for many.

I've known several who can't....and your comments suggest that they can..."just do x and y....and it's all good".

I (suspect) you didn't mean as such...but it came across that way. I'm sure you meant better.

Mental health is an awkward place for some...trying to fit in on occasion...for those that have no concept, it may even appear an escape from responsibility.

It's not.

I'm certain if you had a beer, a doob and a few moments to collect your thoughts....you'd have been less of a dickhead.

(I'm sure of it).


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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 3:39:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		JJ, I love you long time. You knew that anyway, but it bears repeating.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 3:41:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

JJ, I love you long time. You knew that anyway, but it bears repeating.



what she said, although this may be my first time making it known.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 3:44:37 PM   
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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 3:54:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mental illness is a complex issue. I am loath to generalize about it.

I do not know that people on here are more open about it than on other forums.

I do know that I learned a lot from some of those on here who were open about their mental issues.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 3:58:54 PM   
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Oh, if only ...

I would not argue that Henry VIII or Khan or Charlemagne or the Vikings or Lois-the-whoever or Cheney would not be the wonderful guys they were but even more deliberate and gentle about it if they'd only had modern day meds or bongs full of ganga, ......

But, I keep thinking of those Quaaludes ...

"Sleeep, my child, sleeep ....








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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 4:02:40 PM   
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Beware, MissNoJelly... JJ has a way of growing on you and he CANNOT be scraped off. It's been tried.


(It's been said before....).

My Mom actually stood up for me once (it was a Thursday if I recall)...but she was high on crack....(can't blame her...raising me.....).

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 4:05:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

JJ, I love you long time. You knew that anyway, but it bears repeating.



what she said, although this may be my first time making it known.


I'll keep it between you and I.

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RE: Mental Illness - 7/27/2012 4:09:46 PM   
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JJ, I love you long time. You knew that anyway, but it bears repeating.


Tell me again....but use Liquiderm the next time.

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