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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:33:50 AM   
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Now Darwin does not justify bashing of any sort. But neither does the Bible.
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."

Guess the lawful punishment for murder, rape, stealing is bashing too then?

That would depend, I think, on whether one views homosexuality as akin to murder, rape, and stealing. I don't, but ymmv. I do think (and I say this sadly, as a churchgoer) that many folks pluck verses from Scripture as "evidence" that God shares their prejudice against gay folk.



Lev. points emphatically at practicing homosexuality as a capital crime and subsequent punishment. Thus I offhandedly pointed to murder, rape, etc, all being crimes and having subsequent punishment. Crime and punishment are not synonymous with prejudice, unless of course one is but merely prejudiced against rapists and murders even to extreme ends.

You improperly used Leviticus 20:13






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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:38:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Yachtie


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Now Darwin does not justify bashing of any sort. But neither does the Bible.
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."

Guess the lawful punishment for murder, rape, stealing is bashing too then?

That would depend, I think, on whether one views homosexuality as akin to murder, rape, and stealing. I don't, but ymmv. I do think (and I say this sadly, as a churchgoer) that many folks pluck verses from Scripture as "evidence" that God shares their prejudice against gay folk.



Lev. points emphatically at practicing homosexuality as a capital crime and subsequent punishment. Thus I offhandedly pointed to murder, rape, etc, all being crimes and having subsequent punishment. Crime and punishment are not synonymous with prejudice, unless of course one is but merely prejudiced against rapists and murders even to extreme ends.

That barely even counts as sophistry, sweetie.
Unless you have no problem with God's will equating consensual hide the sausage between two willing male adults with violent crimes, that's a completely spurious and fatuous comparison.

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:40:46 AM   
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Of course, we do not live in 2500 year ago Israel.  And Dostoyevsky had many valid points about crime and punishment some years after the magic sky wizard of the middle east first appeared.

But in this country still, religious law (so much of it prejudicial <<<note that word) is not observed or enforced in the same way as our codified laws, innit? 

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:45:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Now Darwin does not justify bashing of any sort. But neither does the Bible.
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."

Guess the lawful punishment for murder, rape, stealing is bashing too then?

That would depend, I think, on whether one views homosexuality as akin to murder, rape, and stealing. I don't, but ymmv. I do think (and I say this sadly, as a churchgoer) that many folks pluck verses from Scripture as "evidence" that God shares their prejudice against gay folk.



Lev. points emphatically at practicing homosexuality as a capital crime and subsequent punishment. Thus I offhandedly pointed to murder, rape, etc, all being crimes and having subsequent punishment. Crime and punishment are not synonymous with prejudice, unless of course one is but merely prejudiced against rapists and murders even to extreme ends.

That barely even counts as sophistry, sweetie.
Unless you have no problem with God's will equating consensual hide the sausage between two willing male adults with violent crimes, that's a completely spurious and fatuous comparison.


Why should I have any problem with that? A capital crime is a capital crime. Assuming He did create it all, it's His rules. Might I suggest that you take it up with God yourself?

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:48:14 AM   
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At least it's still OK to fuck your daughter, as long as you cum inside her instead of pulling out to spill your seed on the ground.

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:48:15 AM   
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Of course, we do not live in 2500 year ago Israel.  And Dostoyevsky had many valid points about crime and punishment some years after the magic sky wizard of the middle east first appeared.

But in this country still, religious law (so much of it prejudicial <<<note that word) is not observed or enforced in the same way as our codified laws, innit? 



So what? That is still not license to misuse Leviticus in attempting to win a point.

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:48:19 AM   
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Might I suggest that you take it up with God yourself?


This assumes facts not in evidence.

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 8:57:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Of course, we do not live in 2500 year ago Israel.  And Dostoyevsky had many valid points about crime and punishment some years after the magic sky wizard of the middle east first appeared.

But in this country still, religious law (so much of it prejudicial <<<note that word) is not observed or enforced in the same way as our codified laws, innit? 



So what? That is still not license to misuse Leviticus in attempting to win a point.


I agree so why are you doing it?   

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 9:03:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Of course, we do not live in 2500 year ago Israel.  And Dostoyevsky had many valid points about crime and punishment some years after the magic sky wizard of the middle east first appeared.

But in this country still, religious law (so much of it prejudicial <<<note that word) is not observed or enforced in the same way as our codified laws, innit? 



So what? That is still not license to misuse Leviticus in attempting to win a point.

Got any tattoos, then?
Do you stick to a strict kosher diet?
Ever had premarital sex?
If so, ceiling cat hates you just as much as those ebil gays...

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 9:09:26 AM   
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I hope we dont have to kill any criminals that are wearing polyester and cotton blends up here in this motherfucker.  Or leather shoes with rubber bottoms, or canvas and rubber deck shoes...................

YHWH.   (I see you..........) 



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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 9:13:07 AM   
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I'd forgot that one.
If they're right and I'm wrong, the Almighty is going to have some explaining to do when I finally meet him...

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 10:39:52 AM   
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I am all for snuffing out christian religions, in my case it would be retribution.


What do you mean by this?

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 10:50:31 AM   
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The norse heathens were decimated by christians until they changed their ways.   Odin whispered....retribution, not resurrection, when Baldur died.

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RE: Why You Should Head To Chick-Fil-A On Wednesday (To... - 8/7/2012 10:51:32 AM   
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Good Day to All.

The topic seems pretty well covered and will now be locked to prevent section guidelines being broken. Guidelines: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3863025/tm.htm

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