DesideriScuri
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You want people to support themselves.. yet you seem to try and prevent any attempt to help them achieve those goals...
I have to ask why.
How am I trying to prevent any attempts to help people achieve their goals?
Are you not dead set against this law?
Sure am.
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This same law that wants to provide women with the prevention to pregnancy?
Women already have the means to prevent pregnancy.
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This same law that would actually save millions of dollars each year?
The one has already raised cost of premiums? Is that the one we're talking about?
To be honest here, I take issue with only a few things from the first two original posts in this thread.
1. These coverages were mandated.
2. They are being touted as "free."
I have no problem with this stuff being covered by insurance. No, seriously. If an insurance company wants to offer it, they can. I just have an issue with it being forced onto the insurance company. These services are not "free." They cost. The physicians and other care providers are getting paid. There is no co-pay anymore, meaning that there is an increase in cost to the insurance company, which will either increase premiums, or has already resulted in increased premiums; ergo, not "free."
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You see only the bottom dollar... some of us can see beyond that to the true cost savings of this law.
Someone has to look at the bottom dollar. Shit costs money. If someone isn't looking at the bottom dollar, Greece happens. You want the US to go Greek?
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It can occur at any age.... many even before they begin work. Please do think beyond the box here.
I know it can occur at any age. But, we aren't talking about any risk above zero here. And, in case you didn't realize it, as long as a young adult is in school full time, he or she was allowed to be covered by the parent(s) policy to age 23, prior to the ACA. Now, consider the however many youth that are getting paid at or below minimum wage. 49.5% of those people are age 24 or younger. It was broken down even further to those who were still teens, and those 20-24. Since there was no break down of each exact age for the youngest non-teen group, I didn't further expand my argument. A 4-year degree will keep a person on a parent's policy until age 21-22, depending on where the birthday falls. If it takes 6 years to gain a Bachelor's Degree, the oldest of those students will drop off their parent's policy (but do consider that there is coverage afforded to students on campus) prior to graduation. And, these are the least likely to incur high costs of regular care.
In the US, government wasn't set up to provide stuff to individuals. The services government provides are for the country, as a whole. And, when you consider our "bought and paid for" elected officials, why would we want them in charge of more and more? Cutting government out of areas will result in less of a stranglehold Big Money has on the US government. That will result in fewer tax loopholes, lower costs, etc.
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And taxes cost them 27%... soooooo not much left after bills.
Let's take a quick peek at something else, too, okay? 40 hours/week at $7.25, is $290/week. For a 52 week work year, we're talking a gross income of $15080. And, that's gross income, not the Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) that matters for tax purposes. But, even if we have no adjustments (not possible considering the standard deduction for singles), this still puts the wage earner in the 10% tax bracket. The single standard deduction is almost $6,000, and the deduction for dependents is $3800 each.
Where did you get the 27% tax rate?
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What I support:
- A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
- Personal Responsibility
- Help for the truly needy
- Limited Government
- Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
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