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WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 4:06:24 PM   
chains314


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Status: offline 		How duos one qualify as a master duos one just decide thy or a master or is it like a master at a trade one works at it for years before becoming a master  how duos just calling ones self a master make it so i don't get it .It seems to me it is just a way some men use to justify beating up on a women or to get free sex any time thy wish it sex should never be  in the true sub/slave master relation ship
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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 4:23:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chains314

How duos one qualify as a master duos one just decide thy or a master or is it like a master at a trade one works at it for years before becoming a master  how duos just calling ones self a master make it so i don't get it .It seems to me it is just a way some men use to justify beating up on a women or to get free sex any time thy wish it sex should never be  in the true sub/slave master relation ship


Ok lol - what u actually want to know isn't very clear.
 
If it seems to you that men use being a master to beat up on women what are you doing here?
 
Sex should never be in a true sub/slave relationship?
Aint sex a part of most relationships?


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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 4:27:06 PM   
Focus50


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Status: offline 		There is no official "qualification" for calling oneself a Master (in the bdsm lifestyle sense).  Probably a better guide is for the individual submissive to decide a particular "master's" bona fides - do you really respect a stranger introducing himself as "master long & often" etc?
 
My opinion is that the minimum qualification to call oneself a Master is to at least own a slave.  Right now I don't and I currently only identify as a Dom.  I've also taken issue with people who have introduced themselves to me (r/l and online) as "Master/Mistress whatever" because I don't recognise the validity of such a title myself - even if they do actually own a slave or ten!  Online nics aside, if another Dom/me wants to talk with me in a mutually respectful manner, they'll need to drop the titles for starters, because I'll be introducing myself with my christian name.
 
I think when someone comes on too strong to a fem/sub with all the titles, bells and whistles of the lifestyle, you're entitled to regard them as rude, abusive Net geeks and I'd encourage you to ignore/block/delete their sorry arse.
 
Focus.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 4:58:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a Dom - always will be, and then I do have a sub, I don't have a slave. But, as ever, whatever floats ya boat!


But one question - as a male sissy/sub, why do you add to your profile that you are a dominant male? If you are looking for the relationship that you seek - you put yourself in the wrong catagory my friend. ;)

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 6:18:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Dom friend who says a Master is someone that their submissive/slave states is one. He says he's only a Master when his slave believes he is. To me, that's a pretty good definition.

I will call someone "Master ____  " as a matter of courtesy if that is the title they have chosen. But for me to call someone "Master" with more than courtesy behind it, they have to prove themselves to actually *be* a Master.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 6:44:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		IMHO there are two kinds of Masters.  The first is one who has spent a great deal of time and effort to develop a skill to a level of masterery - for example a martial arts master.  The second is one who owns a slave.  i don't think Master is a title that you can give yourself.  It must be given by another who is either in a position to recogize the level of talent or skill or by a slave.  i have known both types of masters and they have always been an interesting combination of humility and confidence. 

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 9:15:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are a Dom because that is who you are. You are a Master when you own a sub or a slave.

This is definitely a Master, mine anyway, sorry, bragging here.





< Message edited by twicehappy -- 6/9/2006 9:38:42 PM >

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 9:34:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		according to my husband/master is that this is bull shit, just because you take someone no does not make you a master, Just because you can controle someone for a short time, even in a real 24/7 does not make yourself a master, you can master a physical toy like a flogger, or a peice of rope use in bondage,
a master is someone who understand what it take to own someone, to understand their emontions, their feeling at the moment,
ps anyone who knows my posting this is not my words but the word relay to me by my husband/and once in while dom

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 9:44:00 PM   
TolerableCruelty


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Status: offline 		ok... here goes... and I reckon its gonna ruffle some feathers

My classifications are as follows :

Top = basically a kinky 'nilla person only interested in scene playing

Dom = weekend warrior... someone that "can" master a girl, yet doesn't do it on a 24/7 basis, for whatever reason

Master = 24/7 TPE Dominant, accountable for all personal actions and actions for his slave

Now... with that being said... I don't believe that a person "has" to have a girl collared in order to fit any of those classifications.. a man can be a Master without currently owning a slave, just as a man can be a Dom without currently owning a slave, just as someone can say "I'm only a Top" and not be anywhere near the dungeon.

on a side note...this is in regards to slavejlb... is your husband your Master or is he just your "once in a while Dom" ? He can't be both, and I would imagine that would be the general consensus of most of the people around the CM forums. And further, if He is just your "once in a while Dom".... can you be classified as a slave... or just a "once in a while sub" ? (I'm just curious, no offense intended)

T.R.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 9:46:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		A master is someone who owns a slave.  No more and no less.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 9:48:56 PM   
twicehappy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejlb

according to my husband/master is that this is bull shit, just because you take someone no does not make you a master, Just because you can controle someone for a short time, even in a real 24/7 does not make yourself a master, you can master a physical toy like a flogger, or a peice of rope use in bondage,
a master is someone who understand what it take to own someone, to understand their emontions, their feeling at the moment, ps anyone who knows my posting this is not my words but the word relay to me by my husband/and once in while dom


You asked for a definition and i gave you an abridged one, it is however a factual definition;

In BDSM, Master is one of the honorifics some people use to describe the dominant partner or "owner" in a Master/slave relationship.
Usage of "Master" in most BDSM environs does not imply any specific expertise, abilities or formal training. To successfully maintain a Master/slave relationship takes abilities and skills beyond or apart from normal relationship skills.

Your husband/part time dom is correct in that i did not go into all the nuances involved; However, if he wants to scream bullshit at me i suggest he acquire a profile of his own and answer me personally as a man of honor.

< Message edited by twicehappy -- 6/9/2006 9:49:51 PM >

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 9:55:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Master can also refer to someone that holds the authority over another... such as in the M/s dynamic

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 10:41:01 PM   
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If I was going to start one I would say if I was "master" of someone I wouldn't let them post on the internet till they learned how to use a spell checker, but that's just me.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 10:56:23 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		Himself has the control and ownership of my person. My heart feels love for him, my head tells me that I've been wise in my decisions regarding him and my gut says.. yeah, this is right for you. The person he is inspires me to try to please him so he'll keep me. That makes him Master to me. To anyone else, he's just another Joe on the street .. um .. except his name is Michael. ::chuckles::

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 10:58:35 PM   
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quote:

How duos one qualify as a master duos one just decide thy or a master or is it like a master at a trade one works at it for years before becoming a master how duos just calling ones self a master make it so i don't get it .It seems to me it is just a way some men use to justify beating up on a women or to get free sex any time thy wish it sex should never be in the true sub/slave master relation ship


da penis has to be longer then 9 inch to be a Master.. fer a girl to be a Mistress.. her lips have to be hanging down 6 inches.  Dats how you know..

Takes years upon years of special secret training somehwere in the mountians of Thailand for these things to occur. 

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 11:21:57 PM   
Padriag


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Status: offline 		What I love is how many times this same question comes up in one week.  Seems we just debated this very recently... again.

There is no official definition... make up your own, whatever that is, its fine, now go play nice.

My personal definition... a master is someone who first masters himself.  It all starts there.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 11:25:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chains314

How duos one qualify as a master duos one just decide thy or a master or is it like a master at a trade one works at it for years before becoming a master  how duos just calling ones self a master make it so i don't get it .It seems to me it is just a way some men use to justify beating up on a women or to get free sex any time thy wish it sex should never be  in the true sub/slave master relation ship


Everyone finds their own path.

I am not a master (M for those that care) I am an owner (O for those that care). I do own a 'slave'. I did not know the difference until I had been with a few submissives (and was not happy) and finally figured out what I wanted - a slave.

What is a master (M)? Whomever you call such. Not everyone will agree.

D (owner of j)

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/9/2006 11:30:47 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Master is a Master of martial arts, that's his qualification. In terms of bdsm, he is a Master cuz he owns me, a slave.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/10/2006 12:08:15 AM   
HarryVanWinkle


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Status: offline 		Only those with a Master's Degree in Domination from BDSMU are True Masters.

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RE: WHAT IS A master - 6/10/2006 1:12:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Only those with a Master's Degree in Domination from BDSMU are True Masters.


I had a email from a man who claimed that he had Degree in  BDSM and that there was no such think as a switch.. I guess thats where he got it from 8-)



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