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Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/2/2012 9:23:19 PM)

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What was specifically said in the broadcast that is wrong/highly inaccurate?



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Other than misrepresenting reality?




subfever -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/2/2012 9:42:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

FOX News!! FOX News!! FOX News!!

Ya'all do realize that Ben Swann is an anchor at a FOX affiliate, right? He is employed by FOX 19 out of somewhere in these United States, and not really the FOX News that ya'all demonize?





The only Fox News I've watched in the past 5 years are clips that people post on bulletin boards related to topics I'm interested in. My prior experience tells me that Fox, in general, is extremely slanted to the right. Not that I've given a rat's ass about the partisan sandbox anyway for the past several years, other than the fact that it's a main tool of the PTB to keep the masses inside-the-box. But you're new here, and I haven't been around much lately, so you're not likely to know this.

No, I was not aware of Ben Swann until you mentioned him. Yes, I realize that your post very well may have been intended as a fast reply to the general audience.




subfever -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/2/2012 9:44:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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What was specifically said in the broadcast that is wrong/highly inaccurate?



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Other than misrepresenting reality?



Okay then, I'll also ask you what specifically was said that is wrong/highly inaccurate?




subfever -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/2/2012 9:49:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: subfever


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ORIGINAL: Fellow

I believe Fed lending huge sums of money to selected institutions around the world acting by it own is baloney. Fed is a central bank, and it works together with the Department of Treasury and the White House. 16 trillion can not be created and lent out without the consensus. The current monetary policies are unprecedented. It is an emergency situation, they are fighting the systemic failure. The corruption is not an important issue at this point. Avoidance of the audit is mainly to prevent panic, as things are much worse than the public is told. The Democrats in the Senate are expected to kill the Fed audit bill. The audit would be beneficial to initiate public debate around monetary issues. The current policies are very risky and controversial, they will surely lead to high inflation in near future.


It doesn't appear that the Fed secretly doling out 16 trillion dollars to avoid systemic failure has created any public panic. So if indeed they really are afraid of triggering a panic, then it stands to reason that they're hiding substantially more than these 16 trillion dollars of band-aids to our decaying, corrupt, unsustainable system.





the real reason the fed exists is for "speculation" and monetary control outside the purview of the government and the people.


Remember these assholes operate in collusion.

They fit the pure elements and definitions of racketeering!

Of course when its the plutocracy its ok, if you do it you get the sandpapered ass treatment.

Dont forget the treasury sec s buddy GW just happened to appoint him because by going from a federal reserve employee to the treas sec would SAVE HIM 50 MILLION ON TAXES.

Thats ok in america we make excuses for our dictators.




I agree with most of this.




subfever -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/2/2012 9:51:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: joether

What percentage of the public will understand the information once its told them with this audit?



just the conspiracy theorists




LOL ... good one! ... [:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 5:32:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subfever


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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What was specifically said in the broadcast that is wrong/highly inaccurate?



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Other than misrepresenting reality?



Okay then, I'll also ask you what specifically was said that is wrong/highly inaccurate?

You skipped by what I already posted about this on page one. Start there.




Sanity -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 6:06:38 AM)


Kinda funny how, while obvious, that was still a little over their heads

Call it anti-FOX madness

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

FOX News!! FOX News!! FOX News!!

Ya'all do realize that Ben Swann is an anchor at a FOX affiliate, right? He is employed by FOX 19 out of somewhere in these United States, and not really the FOX News that ya'all demonize?







kalikshama -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 6:14:57 AM)

Gretchen Carlson, Fox & Friends: "That's why our show is so successful...because a lot of it, we just make up."

05:10 http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-1-2012/you--harry-reid--are-terrible




Fellow -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 8:25:28 AM)

The comedians explain it best. Here is one illustration video clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GXcLVDhS8fM#!




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 3:20:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Good Lord. That's what "journalism" has become? It's a parroted book report of a book slanted right from the title.



MM...read the book...I have...it's beyond amazing.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 3:22:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: subfever


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Good Lord. That's what "journalism" has become? It's a parroted book report of a book slanted right from the title.



The Creature From Jekyll Island is a good book from both a historical perspective and how the Fed operates... though I don't agree with what the author advocates as a solution.

The Fox report does go beyond the book, by addressing the current effort to audit the Fed.

The premises in the report are all loaded, begging the question. It's sunk before it starts.

This is hysteria, not news. If there's a real story behind it, it's not anywhere near this report.




Don't be sucked in by a news report....read the book.

You're actually one of few that I believe may actually do so.

Read the book.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 3:24:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever


quote:

ORIGINAL: Fellow

I believe Fed lending huge sums of money to selected institutions around the world acting by it own is baloney. Fed is a central bank, and it works together with the Department of Treasury and the White House. 16 trillion can not be created and lent out without the consensus. The current monetary policies are unprecedented. It is an emergency situation, they are fighting the systemic failure. The corruption is not an important issue at this point. Avoidance of the audit is mainly to prevent panic, as things are much worse than the public is told. The Democrats in the Senate are expected to kill the Fed audit bill. The audit would be beneficial to initiate public debate around monetary issues. The current policies are very risky and controversial, they will surely lead to high inflation in near future.


It doesn't appear that the Fed secretly doling out 16 trillion dollars to avoid systemic failure has created any public panic. So if indeed they really are afraid of triggering a panic, then it stands to reason that they're hiding substantially more than these 16 trillion dollars of band-aids to our decaying, corrupt, unsustainable system.





the real reason the fed exists is for "speculation" and monetary control outside the purview of the government and the people.


Remember these assholes operate in collusion.

They fit the pure elements and definitions of racketeering!

Of course when its the plutocracy its ok, if you do it you get the sandpapered ass treatment.

Dont forget the treasury sec s buddy GW just happened to appoint him because by going from a federal reserve employee to the treas sec would SAVE HIM 50 MILLION ON TAXES.

Thats ok in america we make excuses for our dictators.



The real reason the Fed exists is to protect the 14 banks that belong to it....the United States Government is beholding to it because they print the only known legal currency.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 3:26:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: Fellow

I believe Fed lending huge sums of money to selected institutions around the world acting by it own is baloney. Fed is a central bank, and it works together with the Department of Treasury and the White House. 16 trillion can not be created and lent out without the consensus. The current monetary policies are unprecedented. It is an emergency situation, they are fighting the systemic failure. The corruption is not an important issue at this point. Avoidance of the audit is mainly to prevent panic, as things are much worse than the public is told. The Democrats in the Senate are expected to kill the Fed audit bill. The audit would be beneficial to initiate public debate around monetary issues. The current policies are very risky and controversial, they will surely lead to high inflation in near future.


No the fed reserve is a private "association" created in "puerto rico". They are a foreign based entity that just happens to be on crown "titled" territory.

Fuck its a small world.

We still have inflation and deflation with the fed and the added benefit of unpayable interest which of course will be extracted by unlawful bailouts and land seizure.

Of course land seizure now days does not kick you off your property but shifts who receives the taxes.

all not known to "we the tards" of america.


The federal reserve was created in the United States, under Congressional authority in 1913.

It exists in the United States, it was created in the United States and it is most absolutely chartered in the United States.




Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 3:44:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Good Lord. That's what "journalism" has become? It's a parroted book report of a book slanted right from the title.



MM...read the book...I have...it's beyond amazing.

I will...I'm curious.

But parroting five loaded assumptions from a book is still a ridiculous substitution for "news."




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 4:15:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Good Lord. That's what "journalism" has become? It's a parroted book report of a book slanted right from the title.



MM...read the book...I have...it's beyond amazing.

I will...I'm curious.

But parroting five loaded assumptions from a book is still a ridiculous substitution for "news."


The news is there to sell soap.

The book tells an intriguing story...interestingly enough...it's laden'd with historical fact.




Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 4:20:56 PM)

Let's hope it's told better than FOX portrayed.




Fellow -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/3/2012 8:43:58 PM)

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The real reason the Fed exists is to protect the 14 banks that belong to it....the United States Government is beholding to it because they print the only known legal currency.

My post was basically to say that the Fed, the government and the Wall Street work together. There is no separation in reality. Obama administration is perfectly happy with Fed current policies, bailouts etc. Wall Street certainly is happy as well, the market value has been preserved. The fact that Fed is de jure independent in its decisions  in reality does not mean the Fed acts out of line. By re-nominating Bernanke for the post Obama confirmed this. I can understand the policies.  Although, the situation seems to run into dead-end: low interest rate does not produce any real economy growth. The question is: can the current monetary system be saved? It is self destructive by its very nature. Eliminating the Fed and reorganizing the system may be necessary, but who is going to do it? There is no structure in place to accomplish this. Is there some force to push for a change?  Few people (without power) like Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders raise  noise, and this is pretty much all. Nobody at the top listen what the bloggers have to say.The elites act on their own interest, what kind of new system they would introduce anyway?   Most future predictions offer system crash of some kind, large enough to force changes.




SternSkipper -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/5/2012 7:43:23 PM)

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Ya'all do realize that Ben Swann is an anchor at a FOX affiliate, right? He is employed by FOX 19 out of somewhere in these United States, and not really the FOX News that ya'all demonize?


Whatever... now we're going to get into DECONSTRUCTING TV NETWORKS? Give it a rest ... affiliates are PART of the whole corporate scheme... the only hair splitting you can do in the modern day of TV Network News is whether or not they are a "wholly owned affiliate" or not. They're under contract to drink the same koolaid by maintaining a tv presence in keeping with the Fox News Corp.
Quit taking swipes at people like they are "the dumb at large" ... doesn't exactly make you look like Columbus yourself.




SternSkipper -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/5/2012 7:46:54 PM)

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My post was basically to say that the Fed, the government and the Wall Street work together. There is no separation in reality. Obama administration is perfectly happy with Fed current policies, bailouts etc. Wall Street certainly is happy as well, the market value has been preserved. The fact that Fed is de jure independent in its decisions in reality does not mean the Fed acts out of line. By re-nominating Bernanke for the post Obama confirmed this. I can understand the policies. Although, the situation seems to run into dead-end: low interest rate does not produce any real economy growth. The question is: can the current monetary system be saved? It is self destructive by its very nature. Eliminating the Fed and reorganizing the system may be necessary, but who is going to do it? There is no structure in place to accomplish this. Is there some force to push for a change? Few people (without power) like Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders raise noise, and this is pretty much all. Nobody at the top listen what the bloggers have to say.The elites act on their own interest, what kind of new system they would introduce anyway? Most future predictions offer system crash of some kind, large enough to force changes.


Okay... so least now we know what's known about the US in THE PROVENCES. Where'd ya pick that nugget up Coast To Coast AM?




joether -> RE: Fox News Tells The Truth! (8/5/2012 8:22:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subfever
What was specifically said in the broadcast that is wrong/highly inaccurate?


Eventually I'll read the whole book. Last week was a hell week and this one is shaping up to be less....stressful....

What the FOX reporter explains in one instance is the 'secret meeting'. I've learned one thing when it comes to the 'conservative media' (I hate to say it this wy by the way), uses words or phrases they know will have maximium effect on their audience. I'll give a few brief examples:

The first question is, why was the bill rewritten from the previous bill that was in Congress? I look at the creation of the Affordable Care Act as an example (History does repeat itself, right?). In the ACA, it was taken behind closed doors so that the press and lobbyist could not change it with popular opinion, or vilify what the writers were deciding on. The previous version of the ACA had been out in the poblic for many months and had been not just torn into peices, but were becoming a wedge issue driving Americans against each other. So if I were to take this issue back to 1913, it would be to say they (the representatives of the investing houses) knew the previous bill was so watered down as to do nothing useful for America. By doing it in secret, they could remove this 'Money Trust' concept that was starting to be engrained. The Fox Reporter did not explain that the 'The Money Trust' concept in 1913 was about as big in politics as SuperPACs are today (infact, they are very similar in concept).

Another example,

The Democratic whip and not the Republican whip had headed up this reforming of the bill, we would have learned not only the party but the name of the person. Dont you think it would be pretty important to know who organized this? Not just who....else....was there? Since it was a Republican whip, this information was conviently left out. Since I guess, reporting that a Republican went into a secret meeting with the leading investment houses to create the arch-evil entity known as the Federal Reserve (which many Republicans in 2012 wish to demolish) would have left their audience confused. I'm trying to express the right manner the audience would understand the information to all of you, but not doing a wonderful job at it.

Third,

The reporter failed to explain what was both 'the original goals of the Fed' and what the morden (2012) version of the goals. Things change in a 100 years? The music of 1912 is MUCH different from that today by the youth, right? The movies are different. What we know of how people think, feel, exist, eat, travel, invest, and viewship of say politics, has changed in 100 years. The Fed as a concept was created under the same principles as the US Constitution; That it evolves with time and experience. And like any other mechanism in the US Goverment, there are those that wish it to work for the benefit of all persons equally, and those that wish it to work for just themselves (or give themselves an advantage over all others).





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