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Lucylastic -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 11:48:09 AM)

nope Sanity, its quite simple...Answer, or dont.. or obfuscate away.. again
When one looks at the big picture, one sees more clearly...something you clearly are unwilling and unable to do.
Have a nice day.








Sanity -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 11:50:15 AM)


The Obama gang now trivializes 23 million people out of work:

Obama adviser: Jobless rate is really 8.254%

"Its the economy, stupid." - James Carville




thompsonx -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 11:55:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


This is really simple Lucy

Ask yourself - if crippling levels of taxation,


Could any of that taxation be to fund the war in the sandbox?


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and practically limitless government spending (and government hiring etc)


Perhaps to repair the failing infrastructue in our country...roads,bridges,etc.


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are so good for an economy, why has the Peoples Republic of California found itself in a sinkhole of epic proportions



The republic of california is still one of the ten largest economies in the world. The republic of the u.s., the republic of china,the republic of most of the world have their economies in the shitter or had you not noticed? Did you not get the memmo about the collapse of the real estate bubble and the loss of property tax revenues to the states?
One has to wonder why you start a thread and post up such ignorant nonsense...do you not do any research on the topic before you decide to post?




Hillwilliam -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 12:25:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The Obama gang now trivializes 23 million people out of work:

Obama adviser: Jobless rate is really 8.254%

"Its the economy, stupid." - James Carville

If 23 Million people are out of work and unemployment is 8.254%, that means that there are 278.6 Million people in the US of working age. (23,000,000/.08254)
As there are about 310 Million people in the US counting children, retired people and the infirm, I'm calling bullshit on your 23 Million out of work figure because there are a lot more than 32 million (310M - 278M) in the US that are either under 18 years old, infirm or retired.
Who was your math teacher anyway?




Moonhead -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 12:28:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I disagree. Obama says this is what a plan that is "working" looks like while Romney on the other hand, says that we can do better...


Well, when he can cite a plan for how he can actually fund his tax cuts and hikes on government spending, maybe he'll get somewhere with that line.




Musicmystery -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 12:30:53 PM)

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Romney on the other hand,


has no plan except (1) even MORE spending on an already bloated military
and (2) even MORE tax cuts to further worsen the structural deficit because
(3) even though that hasn't created jobs for 12 years, NOW it's MAGICALLY going to work.

Insanity incarnate.




thompsonx -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 2:12:00 PM)

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For the record, I think he is just stupid.


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Sanity -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:02:11 PM)


Number one, Obama uses the military as a part of his reelection campaign, to try to bolster his image as a warrior type - so no points there

And your number two is a lie. Did the Obama campaign give you that misinformation because the Romney plan includes enough spending cuts to offset any revenue reduction which may or may not be caused by letting taxpayers keep more of their own money

Why would you or anyone assume that taking money out of the economy helps the economy? Tax revenues tend to increase when people have money because a good economy generates tax revenues, not the other way around. Taxes are punishing, if you want less of something (such as smoking) tax that thing. You want less wealth, tax it. You want less economy, tax it

And three, whats NOT working, magically or otherwise, is team Obamas approach despite their spin and their lies to the contrary

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'Real' Unemployment Rate Shows Far More Jobless


While the national unemployment rate paints a grim picture, a look at individual states and their so-called real jobless rates becomes even more troubling.


The government's most widely publicized unemployment rate measures only those who are out of a job and currently looking for work. It does not count discouraged potential employees who have quit looking, nor those who are underemployed — wanting to work full-time but forced to work part-time.

For that count, the government releases a separate number called the "U-6," which provides a more complete tally of how many people really are out of work.

The numbers in some cases are startling.

Consider: Nevada's U-6 rate is 22.1 percent, up from just 7.6 percent in 2007. Economically troubled California has a 20.3 percent real rate, while Rhode Island is at 18.3 percent, more than double its 8.3 percent rate in 2007...

FULL ARTICLE HERE


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Romney on the other hand,


has no plan except (1) even MORE spending on an already bloated military
and (2) even MORE tax cuts to further worsen the structural deficit because
(3) even though that hasn't created jobs for 12 years, NOW it's MAGICALLY going to work.

Insanity incarnate.





Sanity -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:03:37 PM)


Try again, hill

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48468748

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The Obama gang now trivializes 23 million people out of work:

Obama adviser: Jobless rate is really 8.254%

"Its the economy, stupid." - James Carville

If 23 Million people are out of work and unemployment is 8.254%, that means that there are 278.6 Million people in the US of working age. (23,000,000/.08254)
As there are about 310 Million people in the US counting children, retired people and the infirm, I'm calling bullshit on your 23 Million out of work figure because there are a lot more than 32 million (310M - 278M) in the US that are either under 18 years old, infirm or retired.
Who was your math teacher anyway?





LookieNoNookie -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:09:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Obama on the economy: 'We tried our plan - and it worked"

Headlines on Drudge this morning:


8.3%

41 straight months above 8%...
'Longest stretch on record'...
163,000 NONFARM JOBS ADDED...
150,000 Drop From Workforce...

'Real' Unemployment Rate Even More Troubling...

POLL: Obama Job Approval Slips to 44%; Matches 2012 Low... Developing...

Is Obama admitting that he is sabotaging the economy here, or is he just stupid?

For the record, I think he is just stupid.


I told my son 7 weeks ago "I'll be surprised if we don't see unemployment at 8.50% by February, 2013".

He didn't believe me.

Welcome to the next big surprise.




Musicmystery -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:10:42 PM)

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misinformation because the Romney plan includes enough spending cuts to offset any revenue reduction


That would be a nice change from Republican administrations since Reagan. Bush I at least admitted it wasn't working and raised taxes.

But since there ISN"T any Romney plan, that's not the case. Wishful thinking.





mnottertail -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:14:48 PM)

http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

U-6 is about where W left it at when he shitcanned the economy and bailed.




tazzygirl -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:17:04 PM)

You mean Sanity is finally realizing the numbers I have been giving him all along on unemployment are actually accurate?????




mnottertail -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:18:30 PM)

No, that gives credit where no credit is due.




tazzygirl -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:19:14 PM)

whew.. thought my world was about to tilt.. thank you for rescuing me.




Sanity -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:39:30 PM)


This is the longest "nonrecession" recession ever. Dem presidents dont need to produce results? Why is that... how does that work, exactly. Because his policies and his leadership are shit

Again -

FLASHBACK: WH predicted below 6%...
41 straight months above 8%...
'Longest stretch on record'...


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

U-6 is about where W left it at when he shitcanned the economy and bailed.


It was Democrat Sens. Barney Frank who shitcanned the economy, primarily

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"Ask yourself, 'Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" - Ronald Reagan




Musicmystery -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:42:36 PM)

Ask yourself, did the economy tank under the current party's leadership, or under that last one?

Does that last one want to do more of what got us to the tanked economy?







Sanity -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 3:56:13 PM)



Again, primarily under Barney Franks refusal to allow the Bush administration head off the Fannie / Freddie mess

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2185827/mpage_4/key_/tm.htm#2186853

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Ask yourself, did the economy tank under the current party's leadership, or under that last one?

Does that last one want to do more of what got us to the tanked economy?










mnottertail -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 4:05:38 PM)

Wow, thats a rabid right lie and they dont give a fuck how stupid they look when it is completely disproven, or the fact that the default credit swaps and derivatives packaged in the United States due to teabaggers and neo-cons deregulation and loathsome ineptitude and out right eyewinking oversight pretty much put the globe in the shitter.

And combine that with their ongoing borrowing and spending and pathetic innumeracy......

and that right there is just one more reason the neo-cons and teabaggers will never have control of the government, and why the man in the magic underpants wont be elected class clown.




Yachtie -> RE: 8.3% (8/3/2012 4:06:15 PM)

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Does it really matter who did what? Unemployment is far worse than BLS massaged numbers indicate. Criminals are running amok at high levels and any semblance of law is missing within the world of cronyism and payoffs. The value of the dollar is dropping and the middle class is heading for extinction.

Is it really important whether it began under Bush or Obama? Bush is NOT in office. Obama is. In 2009 O said he'd cut the deficit in half in his first term. Well, has he?

Obama isn't any worse than Bush. Unfortunately, he isn't any better either. Even Romney looks to be a probable continuation of the status quo. As things are looking, O is not doing the job. What real harm could a change with subsequent potential of doing better hurt? The country is going down as it is. Perhaps a change of chimp might help. Give him a typewriter and perhaps he'll be the one to bang out King Lear.




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