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dananddawn -> do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 3:52:19 PM)

Short version - when you play with someone, do you really connect to them deeply, or is it just ... play that last until it ends and then you go on your merry way? Do you see play as a physical handshake, good and firm and real, but ends when it ends? Or is it a hug that kind of blocks out the rest of the room?

Long version - Not too long ago, I was at a play party, watching a half dozen scenes going on around me. One person was being flogged, another tied up, yet another having needles poked into them….
As I wandered around, I thought about how I play, and how I really didn’t fit in.

I’ve been thinking about it for some time now, and why I don’t (can’t) play like other people, and if it…well, means anything.

Before I go on, here is the disclaimer. For this to make sense, I have to describe how I don’t play. And if that is the way you do play, do not hear in what I am saying that you are doing things wrong. You are not. You and the top/bottom are having fun, enjoying yourself, getting what you need out of it. So there is not right or wrong. There is what I can and can’t do.

The thing that I seek in play is a sense of the trance state. It used to be dom and sub space, but those ideal have become less (known/popular) in the recent years with many people.

It isn’t enough to flog you for the sake of flogging you. I am skilled at it, I can do it well, and you will enjoy it. But for me, if you are able to hold a conversation with someone else during our scene, or when we are done you are clear eyed, or you don’t think about it the next day, it isn’t a scene that will feed me.

I have likened it to dancing. We can meet at a club, both go out on the dance floor, do the moves, and have a good time. But I don’t do that.

I want to grab you from the wall, take your hand and lead you into the middle of the floor, and sweep you off of your feet. To take you in my arms and lead you in a dance, where you no longer have to think or react, but to just allow the dance to happen. And that puts me in the same space, leading our joint dance, creating a joint connection. To allow things to be esoteric, our energies mingle, vulnerabilities open, we bleed desire into each other. Thought becomes mute and the scene transcends toys. We merge in the dance. The idea of conversation or who is watching or what is on TV tonight become things that are not part of us.

Scening, like other aspects of intimacy, are sacred to me. And, in writing this, I’ve found that key that I need in a scene – the intimacy. Not sex, not physical penetration, but intimate penetration perhaps is the way to describe it.

This kind of energy – be it sex, scene, or in a conversation where the world goes on hold while we merge mind and thought and words – is what I want in our dance. The trance, the energy, the connection that lingers….






sheisreeds -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 4:02:49 PM)

It totally depends on the person I'm playing with, and the context.

No matter what though, I take it seriously.

I'm all about headspaces though, especially with the right person. The majority of scenes I've been in have been with close partners or people I had complete trust in. They have been deep play, we did it wrong if we can talk right at the end.





poise -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 4:14:23 PM)

I only play with one man, and it is in the comfort of our own home.
Our interactions aren't always intended to connect on some deeper level,
but simply a raw and primal need to satiate a physical hunger.
This in no way takes away from the deep connection that already exists for us,
both in and outside of any bedroom activities.
It's always a dance, as you say, but it's not always the same tune.




TNDommeK -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 4:18:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

I only play with one man, and it is in the comfort of our own home.
Our interactions aren't always intended to connect on some deeper level,
but simply a raw and primal need to satiate a physical hunger.
This in no way takes away from the deep connection that already exists for us,
both in and outside of any bedroom activities.
It's always a dance, as you say, but it's not always the same tune.



So lovely and well put.




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 4:41:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: dananddawn

Short version - when you play with someone, do you really connect to them deeply, or is it just ... play that last until it ends and then you go on your merry way? Do you see play as a physical handshake, good and firm and real, but ends when it ends? Or is it a hug that kind of blocks out the rest of the room?

Using that comparison, it's like a hug that blocks out the rest of the room. I am totally focused on my partner, feeling the energy flow between us and being aware of his reactions and feelings.

When I play with my sub, whether it's in private or at a party, I'm totally into HIM. HE is where my focus is. If it's at a party and the rest of the room is playing or if they happen to be watching, they are not my focus at all, except that I stay inside my scening space and hope they stay out of it.

I also regularly spank a friend's submissive at play parties, since she has health issues and stays by his head while I spank. It's the same then, I am totally involved with him(and her) and focused on THEM, not what's going on elsewhere.

NBMG




Silentrunner26 -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 4:57:35 PM)

I love it when it is on a deep personal level but that takes time and trust . Now there are times when things are just right and that primal urge starts to swell up and make it's self known . Then it is not about the feelings or wants it is just the need to release that part of me that is dark . To hear her scream beg and watch her body twist and shake . Seeing the passion and fear in her eyes . Knowing she is safe but not knowing what will happen next . Turning that sweet round ass red then slowly running my hand over it feeling the heat . MMMMM that is what it's all about . Sorry got lost there what was the topic ???




RemoteUser -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 5:47:05 PM)

I could feasibly play without a connection, but then, I can also masturbate.

I have a strong connection to my girl. Sometimes it's more than I expect, more than she might, even, yet there it is; and it feels absolutely right. She is all I need, the how and when is as different as every moment of life.




littlewonder -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 6:39:38 PM)

We only play with each other since we're in a long term committed relationship. When we play it's usually on the deeper connection level but there are also times when it's just random fun and sex. It just depends on both of our moods...mostly his. lol




KnightofMists -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/4/2012 10:03:18 PM)

I tend to play with someone I already have a connection with on some level. Play is but one avenue to explore and expand the connection that exists. Play for me is to be fun. But it isnt fun if it does Enhance and celebrate the connection that exists. But to play just for the sake of playing isn't something that resonates with me. I enjoy, I love the bonding of people together in some sort of connection. When I watch people play. It's not what they are doing that interests me. But the connection that are making with each other I enjoy the doing is but a means to the end. It's that end that attracts me.




Kana -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 12:09:14 AM)

quote:

It isn’t enough to flog you for the sake of flogging you. I am skilled at it, I can do it well, and you will enjoy it. But for me, if you are able to hold a conversation with someone else during our scene, or when we are done you are clear eyed, or you don’t think about it the next day, it isn’t a scene that will feed me.

I have likened it to dancing. We can meet at a club, both go out on the dance floor, do the moves, and have a good time. But I don’t do that.

I want to grab you from the wall, take your hand and lead you into the middle of the floor, and sweep you off of your feet. To take you in my arms and lead you in a dance, where you no longer have to think or react, but to just allow the dance to happen. And that puts me in the same space, leading our joint dance, creating a joint connection. To allow things to be esoteric, our energies mingle, vulnerabilities open, we bleed desire into each other. Thought becomes mute and the scene transcends toys. We merge in the dance. The idea of conversation or who is watching or what is on TV tonight become things that are not part of us.

Scening, like other aspects of intimacy, are sacred to me. And, in writing this, I’ve found that key that I need in a scene – the intimacy. Not sex, not physical penetration, but intimate penetration perhaps is the way to describe it.

This kind of energy – be it sex, scene, or in a conversation where the world goes on hold while we merge mind and thought and words – is what I want in our dance. The trance, the energy, the connection that lingers….



I totally get this.
I can play with someone, give them an incredible time/scene...but if I'm not connecting on an internal level, the play feels, like just that, play, a kinda empty thing.
But the trance, that dance of mind, body, sex and passion, that's an ambrosia worthy of the Gods.

I kinda relate this to Mills concepts of higher and lower pleasures. Play satiates the body, fills a physical need (lust) like all lower pleasures do. But the higher pleasures, they are in the realm of the spirit, and that's what that deep connection/spark is to me.




DeviantlyD -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 1:20:47 AM)

I consider myself a happy masochist in the sense that I find anything I've engaged in (except mind fucks) to be fun. :) I have known some who find play to be a form of release, but I've never felt that need myself. I don't profess to have a huge amount of experience though, but when I have played, I have gone into subspace every time. I just usually find it easy to let go, as long as the person I'm playing with is someone I know or someone I feel comfortable with and that overall I feel I'm in a safe environment. With all of that said, I wouldn't say I've necessarily connected with those I've played with. I guess it all comes down to semantics. Perhaps what I'm experiencing is a connection, just not necessarily how I define the word. I would agree that there is a certain intimacy in play and it's just like how NiceButMeanGirl described it...when I'm playing, there is no one else around...the difference being, I'm not on the giving end, as NBMG is, but on the receiving end. :)

Edited to add after reading Whenready's post:

Play for me is as Whenready described it - not including sex. I'm not saying that is how I have defined it, but how I have experienced it to date. Certainly I hope to have the whole ball of wax with a future play partner...and I have my sights set on one in particular. :) When that happens, I have no doubt it will include the connection as well.




Whenready -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 1:36:16 AM)

I don't want to get hung up on definitions (yours will be different anyway) but for me "play" is fun - and - casual. It can include a "connection" - but it depends on a whole host of factors. That connection has its own sliding scale. If, for example, I'm "play" flogging, for it to be good for me, she has to go milky eyed. Otherwise I'm just exercising my arm. On the other hand, sex can be more - shallow - and still be fun - simply the physical enjoyment of one body inside another. I realise there are arguable inconsistencies there - but hey - I'm human.

If I'm connecting deeply, it's not play anymore.




myotherself -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 1:56:09 AM)

When I was single, I only played with people I was good friends with, and who I could trust. Now that I'm owned, I mostly play with him. I'm a masochist, he's a sadist and things can get...brutal lol

However, we go to a play party every month and sometimes Master will allow someone else to play with me. He is very protective of me, and he will only allow those who he knows and trusts to play with me. Recently a very good friend of ours has said she wanted to explore her sadist side, so she and Master will use me to practice her skills, although he is always there.

Back to the point of the post - with Master, the connection is everything. I feed off his energy - it excites me, scares me and always pushes me to take that little bit more to satisfy his need for my suffering.

When I'm playing with others, again I'm feeding of Master's energy. When he's in 'tutor mode', I am happy that he is helping our friend and grateful that both of them see me as a suitable body to train on. When someone is playing with me and Master is watching, he always positions himself so that I can see him. If he is smiling, then I get an incredible high. If he is focussed on the play and clearly in his 'sadist mode', I get so hot that sometimes I can barely wait to get him alone to do unspeakable things to him [8D]




Magnus32169 -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 3:24:07 AM)

Our scenes are much deeper than just "play." There is a mental connection, and we are welded together through her endorphins and adrenaline and my uber-concentration... takes about a half hour to 'decompress" from a 2-hour session...




RaspberryLemon -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 3:48:44 AM)

It is all about the intimacy and connection for me.

The only person I interact with sexually/sensually is my Master. I couldn't do it with anyone else, because that connection, that bond, that love and intimacy that we share is what makes it desirable to me. It's all about HIM and what WE have together. Without that connection, I would feel nothing; no desire, no pleasure, no subservience, no enjoyment. Nothing. The bond and intimacy is what I need. So I don't "play." I "connect." :)




seekingreality -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/5/2012 10:48:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dananddawn

Short version - when you play with someone, do you really connect to them deeply, or is it just ... play that last until it ends and then you go on your merry way? Do you see play as a physical handshake, good and firm and real, but ends when it ends? Or is it a hug that kind of blocks out the rest of the room?





I only play with people who I feel a connection to and like as people. I don't do public play or play parties or random encounters. I don't play with someone until I've spent time, and usually several occasions, meeting with them and interacting on a vanilla level. And if I play with someone, we typically spend a lot of time doing vanilla stuff.

For me, if you are meeting people at play parties, and scening soon after meeting them, it's not realistic to think you are developing some deep connection with them.




Doomkittie -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/6/2012 4:56:04 AM)

In public, I won't engage in a deep scene, because I usually have to drive home, if it is public play it is because a friend wants to try a new whip or tool of torture and wants feedback. So I stay alert I have been known to laugh and talk back.

Now in a "real" scene in private, I commit 100% to who I am having a scene with. I can't only put a little bit of myself into it (unfortunately) . I think it would be terribly disrespectful and I would also be left unfulfilled if I did not give all my submission! The intimacy is all important, I also couldn't scene with someone I didn't have some kind of connection too.

DK




ResidentSadist -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/6/2012 6:20:39 AM)

A local ordinance of the Public Health and Safety Act doesn't allow me to play with strangers.

Seriously, though I have experienced both. I have done some very showy stuff playing with strangers or helping friends Top their subs in public or in a demo and our connection was merely physical. I have Topped a visiting lover or a friends submissive and the connection was deeper, more intimate and emotional.

Rarely does the purely physical stuff linger like the emotional connections do.




sexyred1 -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/6/2012 6:37:46 AM)

I have always been very private about what I do and who I do it with.

After my divorce, I decided to finally explore the public scene in NYC.

I did not enjoy it very much and one of the reasons was that I would watch people having scenes at the clubs and I felt I was watching a series of little plays. I did not feel any intimacy emanating from the couples (and of course, some of these people were strangers who just met). I just did not understand how you could do something so intense and then just say, see ya.

If I played with friends there, I also felt almost nothing as I need a deeper connection for this.

So for me, especially now, I really cannot play casually, I need some type of feeling and connection or I will not bother. The real connection for me is so important, that just casual play feels too empty.




Missokyst -> RE: do you play or do you connect? (8/6/2012 7:14:25 AM)

I have played and I have connected. Of course one is deeper and more intimate, but they both have their place. I am serious enough, I don't need to make everything the focus to get some enjoyment from it. I also eat mushrooms, which have no nutritional value but can be darned tasty.




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