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cranialcarnage -> The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 1:20:07 AM)

I came a cross a message thread with this topic on bondage dot com and I am curious what the Doms think here. I apologize if this thread already exists here.

Do you care if your sub never has an orgasm, or do you consider her sexual needs to be insignificant in relation to your own?



proudsub -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 8:13:40 AM)

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apologize if this thread already exists here.


I sure don't remember a thread on this, great topic.



SentForu -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 9:14:37 AM)

Yes, wonderful topic. I have had conversations with Doms about this myself. LOL, this has actually been the deciding factor of my turning them down before. So, Masters do tell?



Mercnbeth -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 9:26:15 AM)

Of course I care, very deeply. beth's sexual needs are very significant. I enjoy playing and teasing her VERY responsive body. I enjoy her pleasure immensely.

Part of our TPE relationship is that I control beth's orgasms. she must ask permission before allowing her body to experience them. It's an important aspect of our relationship.

beth is not denied often. I'll refer her to this thread so she can respond directly regarding her satisfaction with this arrangement.



Thanatosian -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 9:30:05 AM)

98% of the time, I make sure she has an orgasm before I do (the other 2 percent of the time, she is just giving me a bj[:D])

Granted, she may have to wait for quite some time for it, and maybe even beg for me to either stop or allow her to cum, but she gets off before I do - I so enjoy watching her experience this 'thing' I have created within her / guided her to.

Besides, if I didnt care if she never had an orgasm, how could I use orgasm control/denial as a behaviout modification tool and/or punushment/reward?

And another thing to take into account is her well being - both mental and physical - and (somewhat) regular orgasms are an integral part of both, in my opinion.
I feel those 'doms' who think the sub is only there to satisfy their sexual needs are maybe, maybe 1/2 step above the HNGs - just in it for the sexual side of it, and not really understanding of the deeper levels involved.

Just my tuppence.



Mercnbeth -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 11:02:54 AM)

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I'll refer her to this thread so she can respond directly regarding her satisfaction with this arrangement.


this slave is blessed indeed with a body that responds to all manner of stimulation--oral, audio, visual, tactile--and also with a mind unencumbered with negative sexually related burdens. add to this the blessing of a Master who has taken this to extreme levels, there have been many times when this slave has been completely exhausted from orgasms! Master requires His slave to ask permission, and at times, it is almost impossible to form the words from deep inside of subspace. there have been a few times when this slave has been denied, but not many, and that denial has always been done with Master's specific purpose in mind. to this slave, they are not "her" orgasms anymore, they belong to Master and He allows her to enjoy them because it pleases Him.



NoCalOwner -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 11:29:01 AM)

Of course I care. I find one-sided sex to be very little fun. So... four to seven would be about normal. Two means that it's a quickie which is cutting into our sleep time. Zero means either that she is being punished, or that she has a major reward coming within a few days, and is under orders to save her energy.

I've even been known to give her aphrodisiacs. Obviously she doesn't need them, but, well, why not?



proudsub -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 11:44:34 AM)

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I've even been known to give her aphrodisiacs.


What do you use? Maybe that should be a whole other thread.



NoCalOwner -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 1:01:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

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I've even been known to give her aphrodisiacs.


What do you use? Maybe that should be a whole other thread.


I think it probably should, I'll go start one over in the health section.



Estring -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 2:44:06 PM)

I enjoy it very much when my slave cums. Of course I always control when and if she does. That is a big part of the enjoyment of it for me. I have only denied her once, as a punishment. That lasted one week.
Otherwise, seeing her cumming for me with all she has is something that happens on a daily basis. Lucky slave! [;)]



topcat -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 3:13:49 PM)

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Do you care if your sub never has an orgasm, or do you consider her sexual needs to be insignificant in relation to your own?


Midear Carnage-

I care enough that I listed multi- orgasmic on my list on the 'perfect sub' thread- and I should have added polymorphic as well.

If I am in charge, I expect my needs to be met, but if I want to stay in charge, I'd better see to hers as well. In cases of submissives that have difficultly orgasming, I will make special efforts, and frankly, really enjoy being able to make her come easily- feels a lot like control to me<g>.

there are of course, those dominants that don't care about her pleasure at all. I expect they are rather lonely, though...

Stay warm,
Lawrence



Hawkins -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 4:24:05 PM)

I also get a huge amount of enjoyment from my Kate's orgasms. She is also multiorgasmic, and can be made to come so much it is cruel.

Also, by using a verbal trigger, at first when she was coming, and then just before she came, I can now get her to come on command (if being stimulated). Great fun and to be explored more.

I guess I know I am going to come, and the more pleasure I can give the more pleasurable the rest is for me.



INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 5:30:52 PM)

To allow my sub to orgasm increases my sense of control over her.
To take her close many times, and stopping all movement just before she comes, and watching her body shudder is highly erotic to me.
It is a given that she ask for the pleasure, and again it is my decision as to when, and how many times.
I know there are many nights that she loses track of the amount of orgasms she experiences.
My sub, who gives of herself without reservation, should and does experience pleasure, as deserved.



subbiejenn -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 6:11:42 PM)

*sneaks in Masters section*

i would put any Dom who doesn't care if i get a orgasm or not in the "Troll" or "HNG" section. *grins*

i can see sometimes not being able to cum for one reason or another but overall if i am kept happy i will make them very happy.

JMO

*sneaks back out*

~jenn~



wetrope -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 7:06:10 PM)

My sub's orgasm is very special, she always comes first, her orgasms are a total turn on for me. She cums, and cums, and cums when I make her, and other times she almost cums and stops, and stops and stops, its an unbelievable to have so much control. Well she gives it to me, i dont take it. Guess its not just her orgasm its her, wowwwwwww!



cranialcarnage -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/2/2004 9:42:28 PM)

I had no idea this thread would generate so many responses.

I, too, use the orgasm issue as a way to judge whether or not I will stay with someone, whether it is a D/s relationship or a vanilla one. I don't mind delay myself, but I consider outright denail to be detrimental to my mental and physical health. Orgasm denail makes me feel like I am something less than human, a mere toy for the amusement of another. Delay, however, can cause greatly intensified results; that is why I usually opt for delay anyway.



subbiejenn -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/3/2004 4:05:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cranialcarnage

I had no idea this thread would generate so many responses.

I, too, use the orgasm issue as a way to judge whether or not I will stay with someone, whether it is a D/s relationship or a vanilla one. I don't mind delay myself, but I consider outright denail to be detrimental to my mental and physical health. Orgasm denail makes me feel like I am something less than human, a mere toy for the amusement of another. Delay, however, can cause greatly intensified results; that is why I usually opt for delay anyway.


*peaks in*

i think Orgasm denial is a lot different when used in "play" then a Dom just not caring if submissive gets a orgasm or not. Orgasm denial is a kink just like everything else and some get into that, it is something the Dom/Domme/Master has to think about and "plan" (for lack of a better word at 7 am) so it isn't that they don't "care".

JMO
~jenn~
*off to get coffee*



Sinergy -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/3/2004 10:54:09 PM)


Personally, one of the most Dominant acts (to me) is making my submissive orgasm repeatedly whether she wants me to stop or not.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy



TaurusMCMLVIII -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/4/2004 11:50:57 AM)

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Do you care if your sub never has an orgasm, or do you consider her sexual needs to be insignificant in relation to your own?


If you ever come across someone who believes in the latter then just don't turn and walk away... RUN!



TypeWriter -> RE: The submissive orgasm (11/4/2004 12:19:33 PM)

Folks,

For me it is this simple. My orgasm is a gift to my little one and her orgasm is a gift to me. Each one should be treasured as such.

I have my butterfly ask permission before she cums. It gives me such great feeling of love and control for her to do that.

Also I have to be honest whens he is close and all moaning and breathless for her to ask in that voice always makes my cock throb.

We are slowly working on orgasm ion command and may move on to other things.

When she cums fire works (arches her back and rattles the windows) it is the most delicious thing i have ever seen.

It is fun both to do multi-orgasmic (last i lost count =)_) and delay (last time at her place i would not let her make any noise and played with her for about an hour before letting her cum.

I just try to honor the gift she gives me and honor her with mine.

M



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