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Aswad -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 9:29:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose I appreciate you don't't want to resort to cruelty to animals, but if your neighbour's being that much of a twat about this, fuck them. What about Bob being a twat to Alice is it that makes it okay for Alice to attack Charlie in your world? Or is it just one of these "someone was a twat, my morals are void now" things? Sheesh.

GreedyTop -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 9:32:40 AM)
I love you Aswad. If you and your lovely Lady ever decide to visit Savannah, I want to lick both your brains :) (oh, and hug ya and cuddle and all that other warm fuzzy stuff!!!)

LaTigresse -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 9:37:57 AM)
Around here, the coyotes and BOP get rid of the ferals pretty fast. For awhile, someone......they don't think I know who they are.....was dumping kittens, and their unwanted adult cats, at our place. Our cat HATES other cats. Add to that 3 dogs that dearly love to chase cats, and a fairly large population of coyotes, great horned owls, and bald eagles during the winter, we don't have the feral cat problem. I hate to say but it's true, if we had any rangy feral toms hanging around I would shoot them. They are nothing but disease carrying pests. They usually cannot be domesticated and the shelters are already full. Where my son's shop is, across the street was a woman that would constantly feed the strays. After a few years of that, there were dozens of cats running around the area. They would get into the car shop and shit and piss all over everything. Finally my son started trapping them and taking them to the shelter. After 30 cats, the shelter said no more. At that point my son's hired man started taking them out into the country and shooting them. It was the most humane thing they could do. Obviously the cat lady was not happy but she was the one to blame. She was irresponsible one...... in feeding stray cats, facilitating their breeding.

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 9:46:06 AM)
This is an owned cat though, that the owner is too much of a pig ignorant slob to get fixed.

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 9:48:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aswad quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose I appreciate you don't't want to resort to cruelty to animals, but if your neighbour's being that much of a twat about this, fuck them. What about Bob being a twat to Alice is it that makes it okay for Alice to attack Charlie in your world? Or is it just one of these "someone was a twat, my morals are void now" things? Sheesh. Nope. It's an "if you refuse to control your pets, and they're harming other people's animals, then you're not competent to own them and they have to go" thing. It may well make me a chauvinist, but I don't see people and cats as being very comparable.

GreedyTop -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:00:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse Around here, the coyotes and BOP get rid of the ferals pretty fast. For awhile, someone......they don't think I know who they are.....was dumping kittens, and their unwanted adult cats, at our place. Our cat HATES other cats. Add to that 3 dogs that dearly love to chase cats, and a fairly large population of coyotes, great horned owls, and bald eagles during the winter, we don't have the feral cat problem. I hate to say but it's true, if we had any rangy feral toms hanging around I would shoot them. They are nothing but disease carrying pests. They usually cannot be domesticated and the shelters are already full. Where my son's shop is, across the street was a woman that would constantly feed the strays. After a few years of that, there were dozens of cats running around the area. They would get into the car shop and shit and piss all over everything. Finally my son started trapping them and taking them to the shelter. After 30 cats, the shelter said no more. At that point my son's hired man started taking them out into the country and shooting them. It was the most humane thing they could do. Obviously the cat lady was not happy but she was the one to blame. She was irresponsible one...... in feeding stray cats, facilitating their breeding. Understood. I am in a fairly urban area, so the "natural predators" are a non-starter. I am trying to find a spay/neuter/return/release org. around here, but apparently Chatham county frowns on such. The closest I can find is about 4 hours away. AND, they require a local (read, Jacksonville, FL - or local environs) address. Even farther, if I look to SC.

poise -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:08:48 AM)
Why not approach her as a group? If your neighbors are also affected by the actions of this one cat, having them confirm that they will seek court action to recoup the cost of damages caused by this cat seems alot more ominous than simply telling her that her cat is a terror. She probably assumes, and rightly so, that no one will do anything, which is why the situation hasn't been resolved. Also, a caged and pissed off Tom cat is going to make a heck of a lot of noise. It will be hard to ignore his wailings in the quiet of the night, so I don't think it would go without notice that something is up.

LaTigresse -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:13:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose This is an owned cat though, that the owner is too much of a pig ignorant slob to get fixed. I am 100% certain the woman I wrote about believes every single cat she feeds is her's also. And it wouldn't have been a problem had she kept them contained. She doesn't. Similarly if my farm cat wanders over to the neighbours and gets shot or poisoned I am not going to be angry with the neighbour. It will be on me for not keeping the cat contained.

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:17:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: poise Also, a caged and pissed off Tom cat is going to make a heck of a lot of noise. It will be hard to ignore his wailings in the quiet of the night, so I don't think it would go without notice that something is up. That's why I suggested poisoning it. If it's that much of a terror, as you say, the OP won't be the only neighbour who might be a suspect, and if the damned thing prowls around, who can say where it's going to have picked up a mouthful of something lethal? My other suggestion would have been a brick in the back of its head and then dumping it on the nearest main road in the morning rush hour, but that would attract unwanted attention as well.

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:20:07 AM)
Not everybody is as reasonable about stuff like that as you are, though. Hence the fact that the neighbour hasn't done anything to stop their cat mauling other people's pets.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:27:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quite easy to throw a bit of poisoned meat over the fence... You could try that yourself if all else fails: it certainly doesn't sound like you'd have to worry about anybody else's cats getting into the feral tom's territory and eating it. I appreciate you don't't want to resort to cruelty to animals, but if your neighbour's being that much of a twat about this, fuck them. Excuse me, but the whole problem is that the neighbour wouldn't eat the poisoned meat and she's the twat. In fact, just talked with the neighbour who's kid was attacked by the cat, the cat owner doesn't even let nasty cat into her house, just feeds him (there goes my hope that he's going to piss all over her furniture and carpets), so I think the cat is basically just trying to find a home and he sees other cats as competition for resources. In case he's neutered, chances are he's going to lose a lot of the aggression and will stop marking. Neutered and vaccinated he'll be much less of a danger to other cats and hopefully people, they're going to test him for FIV and a bunch of other things too and simply vaccinate him. Other neighbour (another nasty cat victim, not the twat) said the cat owner is a bit odd and is into this whole "everything natural is good don't, neutering is unnatural, therefore bad...", judging from the hairy state of her armpits and legs, could be true...

GreedyTop -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:28:17 AM)
I'm pleased to say that the cats I feed around here are for the most part no more aggresive that my two indoor cats. The outdoor kitties that have died since I've been here have been 1) victim of a spiteful neighbor (mookitty..just a loving, friendly kitten), 2) Kid (another loving, friendly kitten - victim of loose dogs), and 3) Tomtom (sure he sprayed a lot, but he was old, and probably ill). Mookitty was my neighbors kitten. Kid was the offspring of a previously homed cat(I call her Pretty) who comes around frequently (well, not as much since Kid was mauled). Tomtom was the only one of my regulars I would consider truly a feral. Bibby is another previously homed cat that I hope to be able to spay and rehome at some point - she is finally beginning to allow me to get close enough to touch her.

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:32:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quite easy to throw a bit of poisoned meat over the fence... You could try that yourself if all else fails: it certainly doesn't sound like you'd have to worry about anybody else's cats getting into the feral tom's territory and eating it. I appreciate you don't't want to resort to cruelty to animals, but if your neighbour's being that much of a twat about this, fuck them. Excuse me, but the whole problem is that the neighbour wouldn't eat the poisoned meat and she's the twat. In fact, just talked with the neighbour who's kid was attacked by the cat, the cat owner doesn't even let nasty cat into her house, just feeds him (there goes my hope that he's going to piss all over her furniture and carpets), so I think the cat is basically just trying to find a home and he sees other cats as competition for resources. In case he's neutered, chances are he's going to lose a lot of the aggression and will stop marking. Neutered and vaccinated he'll be much less of a danger to other cats and hopefully people, they're going to test him for FIV and a bunch of other things too and simply vaccinate him. Other neighbour (another nasty cat victim, not the twat) said the cat owner is a bit odd and is into this whole "everything natural is good don't, neutering is unnatural, therefore bad...", judging from the hairy state of her armpits and legs, could be true... If it's attacking kids, forget the rspca and cat rescue. The Police'll destroy it if the parents get onto them. Your compassion does you credit, but it's probably misguided in this case.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:36:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose Nope. It's an "if you refuse to control your pets, and they're harming other people's animals, then you're not competent to own them and they have to go" thing. It may well make me a chauvinist, but I don't see people and cats as being very comparable. So the owner being a twat means I should poison the cats? Sheesh, so somebody who doesn't like me should also take it out on my animals? I really don't see why the animal should be killed because the owner is fucktard and a bit funny in the head, and you know, poisoning the cat is not only a cruel way for it to go, it also endangers all other cats (they roam) and it's punishing the wrong one (i.e. the cat and not the owner) the owner then just gets another cat and refuses to have it neutered, if she wants to retaliate, she'll possibly poison all other pets in the area. Apart from that, poisoning animals in this area is soooo not a good idea, there was some fucktard who put out poisonous bait in the local dog park, 2 dogs died and then a few people decided to guard, unfortunately the twat who put the poison out was caught by 2 guys who had SF training, no worries, he's still alive and he had no bruises or visible injuries on him, but he moved out of the area 2 days later. The 2 guys who handled it were drunk for a few weeks because everybody who met them insisted on buying them drinks....

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 10:44:53 AM)
So call the police. If it's mauled somebody's kid, they'll destroy it.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 11:00:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirNose So call the police. If it's mauled somebody's kid, they'll destroy it. Which part of the cat is going to get neutered do you have trouble understanding? Shall I type a bit slower? As for a cat being aggressive getting the police force out, ehh, good luck, they might send somebody round with a nice padded jacket for you. Apart from that, I said repeatedly, not the cats fault, don't want the cat harmed, again, which part of that can you not comprehend? As for "mauled" - it's a cat, not a lion. Look, I don't think you're much of a contribution to society, in fact I think you are a complete douche for advoacting to poison animals (hey, I would like to introduce you to 2 guys in the area) I don't think you should be destroyed, though I would be in favour of Aswad's long term plan..

SirNose -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 11:10:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Which part of the cat is going to get neutered do you have trouble understanding? Why you're risking a brick through window for trapping somebody else's cat to get that done when it'd be a lot easier to destroy the creature. Obviously. Still good luck trapping the creature without getting hurt or letting your neighbour know exactly who's made off with their cat.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 11:18:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: poise Why not approach her as a group? If your neighbors are also affected by the actions of this one cat, having them confirm that they will seek court action to recoup the cost of damages caused by this cat seems alot more ominous than simply telling her that her cat is a terror. She probably assumes, and rightly so, that no one will do anything, which is why the situation hasn't been resolved. Also, a caged and pissed off Tom cat is going to make a heck of a lot of noise. It will be hard to ignore his wailings in the quiet of the night, so I don't think it would go without notice that something is up. The noise shouldn't be that much of an issue, for the owner (who is about 500 meters away) it will possibly sound like another cat fight, once the cage is in the garage, we will have to cope with the noise, people left and right know about it and support it fully. We tried to talk to her, almost everybody here, she doesn't talk to me because she thinks it was wrong that I adopted Kia, as she came to us with a docked tail, I shouldn't support that (nevermind that all my pets are rescues) and I'm an evil person as all my pets are neutered, she has the stupid idea of neutering animals is being the epitome of evilness, robbing them of their sex drive... Her previous tom came into our house and pissed around, we asked her to get that one neutered, she made a bit fuss and said it's not her problem, it's what cats do and it's our fault for having a cat flap, we changed the manual one to an electronic one to avoid that problem. If she'd be renting it would be much easier as we could apply to the landlord, but there are only a few houses here were people rent. She's not exactly crazy but a bit "strange", the local council decided to feed the pigeons with food that rendered them sterile, everybody was happy about that, she tried to drum up support against this "unethical treatment", needless to say that she didn't get a lot of signatures...

Karmastic -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 11:34:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucifyre GL LadyC! Don't get caught! You know, your alternative is just to catch the poor thing and turn it in to the SPCA and feign innocence if your neighbor questions you. It would have been just as likely that the cat got hit by a car or picked up or something. I just worry that you're going to get this tom it's little gems snipped and drop it back off and your neighbor will know exactly who got that done. Lucifyre THIS!

Aswad -> RE: Cat trap (8/12/2012 2:11:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop I love you Aswad. If you and your lovely Lady ever decide to visit Savannah, I want to lick both your brains :) (oh, and hug ya and cuddle and all that other warm fuzzy stuff!!!) It's my understanding that brains fare poorly when lapped, so I'll pass on the zombie action. However, since a quick search fails to locate any brain licking eroguro, I must conclude that rule 34 has been violated and thus set out to draw this concept in order to prevent a collapse of the natural order of the Internet. My initial sketch was not a success, mainly because I'm no good at drawing tongues. Not that I'm any good at any drawing in the first place, but we'll see if something interesting comes of it. Meanwhile, you can no doubt spot the gaping void in the genre where this unborn niche masterpiece most certainly belongs, by googling Ayaswan's closely related drawings. Or skip it, with resultant savings on the brain bleach budget. -lol- On a more serious note, I'm playing with the idea of an extended visit in the distantish future. Intimidating prospect, though. IWYW, — Aswad.

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