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Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 2:20:29 PM   
RubberKathryn


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Hello Ladies and gents,
I need some advice. First, a brief background of me; I have been in the lifestyle for approx 5 years now. I am most certainly a dominant and a top, that I know. I also know what I like and what I don't.

My problem is I don't know what to do with a submissive once I've got him. Every play situation I have been in, granted not many, I end up lost and don't know where to take it. For example, I am a rubberist through and through - I love getting me and my boy geared up but once I we're dressed I have no idea where to to take the scene. Now, I'm certainly not above letting an experienced sub take the lead and learning from that. However, this usually leads to a situation in which I have been reduced to a service top and quite frankly I'm tired of that crap. I think another problem is I don't watch a lot of BDSM porn; this has to be where a lot people get there fantasies and ideas from.

Where does one get there ideas and creativity from? How do you know where to go with a scene? Thought, ideas, advice?

Thanks
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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 2:21:52 PM   
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I think you need to find a relationship first and go from there. You and I have learned the hard way that starting out with a play session will lead only to service topdom.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 2:25:35 PM   
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I certainly agree Baroanna.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 2:27:00 PM   
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Granted, I have a wickedly inventive imagination........but does nothing at all pop into your head?

I can be driving down the highway, going to work, and have an idea of something I want to try. A stroll through some stores gives me inspiration. I mean, what goes on in your head when you daydream?!?!

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 2:32:12 PM   
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You do what you want to do.

Take a couple of days and fantasize about what could happen while you are dressed up. What would turn you on. How that might play out.

Then make that fantasy a reality.

I would disagree that porn is what gives people ideas. I would say those ideas are what gave us porn.

Surely you fantasize?

If just being in rubber is the ult for you then just do that. Again, do what you want to do.


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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 2:55:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RubberKathryn

Hello Ladies and gents,
I need some advice. First, a brief background of me; I have been in the lifestyle for approx 5 years now. I am most certainly a dominant and a top, that I know. I also know what I like and what I don't.

My problem is I don't know what to do with a submissive once I've got him. Every play situation I have been in, granted not many, I end up lost and don't know where to take it. For example, I am a rubberist through and through - I love getting me and my boy geared up but once I we're dressed I have no idea where to to take the scene. Now, I'm certainly not above letting an experienced sub take the lead and learning from that. However, this usually leads to a situation in which I have been reduced to a service top and quite frankly I'm tired of that crap. I think another problem is I don't watch a lot of BDSM porn; this has to be where a lot people get there fantasies and ideas from.

Where does one get there ideas and creativity from? How do you know where to go with a scene? Thought, ideas, advice?

Thanks


Like Baroana says, maybe you're better suited to a relationship *first*. In a vanilla context, I wouldn't imagine too many one-night-stand relationships grow into the real thing where you share your greater lives together.

That said....

You say you are "most certainly a dominant and a top" (dominant would cover both, to me) so you must have some inkling as to what you wanna do to/with the one you have control over. If not a personal relationship, you should at least be discussing before-hand what the submissive wants from a scene, too, so that you can feed off each other's opposing or complementing energy. Yeah, you're thinking "service top - pffft" but they're putting themselves at your disposal for a reason, and it's a matter of ego and personal pride that I want my girl getting her submissive needs met by me as I satiate my needs upon her, too.

Forget the rubber for a minute. You don't have sexual urges you can utilise the sub for? Of having them do it EXACTLY the way YOU want etc? Or if you're "most certainly a dominant" (as I certainly am), you don't enjoy the physical control aspect of their bound helplessness, of teasing and torturing them with their own needs. Yeah, "service top" but I do it for *MY* needs and pleasure, too - you don't have those?

Lastly, given there's so many male subs to so few Dommes, I would imagine the average male sub with experience would understand and make allowances for a Domme who's relatively inexperienced to what *she* wants from a scene. Sure, they may even take advantage as subs can be quite greedy with their needs but you just make sure what's happening is what *you* want, first.

Learn to relax and be comfortable with your needs. Your sub is an outlet for them; one where you can demand and expect perfection from them in getting it right.

So be a bitch - and enjoy!

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 4:20:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RubberKathryn

For example, I am a rubberist through and through - I love getting me and my boy geared up but once I we're dressed I have no idea where to to take the scene.


As a fellow rubberist and a somewhat inexperienced one (2 years), I had a lot of the same problems. Okay, we're all dressed up...where do we go? I asked in the Latex Lovers group on FetLife. Intricate rope bondage a la House of Gord is a popular option. Thuddy impact play with paddles and such is also good. For a number of people, the dressing is, in and of itself, can be a fun scene. Things along the lines of forcible transformation from human to "shinyrubberthing" or playing dress up with your rubber doll are fun.

One of my favorite scenes was a bit of role-playing involving a rubber drone. We worked out a handful of phrases that were a "programming" sequence. For example, "Run program: Drink Service Beta, authorization code Alpha 7," could be the command to bring you a glass of water. It's up to you to "program" your drone to do whatever you wish. The variations on this theme are endless. It's just a matter of what you and your partner enjoy.


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Where does one get there ideas and creativity from? How do you know where to go with a scene? Thought, ideas, advice?


Everywhere. Sci-fi movies, television shows, and novels are an endless cornucopia of ideas. Don't underestimate the possibilities of other genres too. Urban fantasy (such as Trueblood or any super hero movie, ever), sword-and-sorcery, romance, Steampunk, action movies, especially ones with interrogation scenes, historical/period pieces...the list goes on. When you watch or read, try to think of ways it could be turned into a scene.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 4:36:03 PM   
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My (now ex) husband and I got quite a few ideas from some of the books on the booklist: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

See also this guide by forum member AAkasha: http://www.akashaweb.com/updates/GoodGirlsFreePreview.html

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 4:39:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RubberKathryn

I think another problem is I don't watch a lot of BDSM porn; this has to be where a lot people get there fantasies and ideas from.



Sorry, I don't agree with this.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 5:14:16 PM   
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I know where my ideas come from. I can be daydreaming as I clean the floor or go grocery shopping or taking a break at work and, all of a sudden, my imagination goes nutso. I suddenly think, "Hey! I'm going to do this next time we get together. Oh hell yeah!" and it turns into a super-awesome scene! What is it that you just totally love? I mean, rubber is obvious, but what else? Just think of everything you can do with those things and just....do it!

NBMG

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 5:18:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RubberKathryn

Hello Ladies and gents,
I need some advice. First, a brief background of me; I have been in the lifestyle for approx 5 years now. I am most certainly a dominant and a top, that I know. I also know what I like and what I don't.

My problem is I don't know what to do with a submissive once I've got him. Every play situation I have been in, granted not many, I end up lost and don't know where to take it. For example, I am a rubberist through and through - I love getting me and my boy geared up but once I we're dressed I have no idea where to to take the scene. Now, I'm certainly not above letting an experienced sub take the lead and learning from that. However, this usually leads to a situation in which I have been reduced to a service top and quite frankly I'm tired of that crap. I think another problem is I don't watch a lot of BDSM porn; this has to be where a lot people get there fantasies and ideas from.

Where does one get there ideas and creativity from? How do you know where to go with a scene? Thought, ideas, advice?

Thanks


Kathryn, I'd like to help in a more concrete way. Going over your profile, I notice that your interests are mainly in things: masks, gas masks, rubber wear. If you would be so kind as to shop that list for some activities. You can either add them to your profile or jot them down here. Borrowing from Baroana's profile, some activities include begging, body worship, housework, humiliation, objectification, Puppy roleplay. You may notice I have skipped cages, canes, crops, and gags because once those things are in hand (or in mouth, as it were) we are back to square one. As a closing example, Baroana has both "canes" (thing) and "spanking" (activity) under interests. Once that is settled, I will be more helpful.




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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/11/2012 8:57:00 PM   
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Unlike Focus, I do not believe that being a Dominant and a top are the same thing. That's another thread.

I'm not a rubberist, so I hope this advice will still apply. I'm one of those chicks who really believes that ideas for BDSM really are all around you. It's just a matter of tapping into ideas, creativity, and a bit of stealing other people's fun.

Do you like to read erotica? Do you like to watch other people play? Do you like to talk with other folks who have the same fetish as yourself? Scene ideas can come from all of these things. You don't think all of us who are engaging in BDSM are only using material that nobody has ever used before, do you? It really can be that simple.

Read, watch, or discuss things related to your kink. Before you know it, the lightbulb will go off inside of your head.

If I were looking for a hand in this particular area, I probably would hit up Syl. You both have the fetish in common and she's a very creative sort. Maybe she'd be willing to bounce some ideas around with you.

By the way, love the avatar pic.


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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 12:27:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact


By the way, love the avatar pic.



I'm willing to bend over backward to help because she's a ninja.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 4:46:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Unlike Focus, I do not believe that being a Dominant and a top are the same thing. That's another thread.




And where did I say they were the same thing? Cos, yanno, I didn't say top would cover both.

Focus.


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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 5:27:15 AM   
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Rubber T-Rex play.
Oh hell yes, it needs to be done.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 6:14:25 AM   
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Right here, bro.....


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You say you are "most certainly a dominant and a top" (dominant would cover both, to me)

Focus.




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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 2:30:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Right here, bro.....


quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50


You say you are "most certainly a dominant and a top" (dominant would cover both, to me)

Focus.



Whoa, even with bolding it still doesn't say they're the same thing, because..... Hell, if you didn't read or couldn't understand my last post on the matter, that's your deficiency "bro".

Focus.


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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 3:27:58 PM   
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I took BabiBoi's advice and updated my profile interests a bit. As far as ideas go, I do have fantasies I would love to play out but I find myself worrying far too much during the situation. Am I doing this right? What if something goes wrong? Is he into what I'm doing? Etc I feel I live too much in my own head at times.

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 3:39:30 PM   
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Everything I know about rubber play I learned from here:

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/in-her-skin---uncensored

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RE: Seeking advice from fellow dominant top ladies - 8/12/2012 3:48:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RubberKathryn

As far as ideas go, I do have fantasies I would love to play out but I find myself worrying far too much during the situation.


Start with this. Or rather, stop it. You're killing your own enjoyment. If you have fantasies, go with those. You may need to work up to them, depending on the complexity, but the simpler things you can do at any time.

quote:

Am I doing this right?


Are you having fun? Is anyone bleeding (literally or metaphorically) when they don't want to be? If the answers are yes to the first and no to the second, then you're doing it right. Carry on.


quote:

What if something goes wrong?


Then you deal with it. I'm figuring you already know basic safety protocols for your toys and have a fully stocked first aid kit, which you know how to use. If anything goes wrong that isn't health related, then you learn from the experience and try to figure out how you could do it differently/more effectively in the future.

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Is he into what I'm doing?


That's an individual thing. Some good old-fashioned communication before and after the scene will take care of this issue. If he's not into it before you start, skip it. If he likes the idea and wants to try it, go for it. If you or he decide afterward that it's not as much fun as you'd hoped, chalk it up as a learning experience and better luck next time. There are plenty more ideas to be discovered.


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