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-=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/12/2012 9:30:04 PM   
ResidentSadist


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Status: offline 		I have known many Dominant types that have a manifesto. One guy I knew took it to the point where he clearly outlined his goals, policies and procedures written out in a booklet. It was over 100 pages long because he wrote up all the procedures. When taking a partner, I'll write up several pages to put into writing what my relationship and life goals are.

When bringing a partner into your life, do you have a manifesto, a clear agenda for them? Do you write it up?

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/12/2012 10:15:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think so... not in the way you mean it anyway. I mean... I clearly have a firm idea of what a marriage oughta look like. But I've never written it down and I don't know that I could due to nuance and complexity. I don't think I bring partners into my life in quite such a structured way. Typically there is a long "getting to know you" phase. They may well have been friends for years. And also, people don't pass through my life that quickly. I marry. I've had a sum total of 3 partners since the age of 21.

I have to believe that the structure of a manifesto would be way more useful in a more high volume scenario.

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/12/2012 10:27:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		we never had anything written out. His manifesto was to submit, obey, be pleasing.

The ex Dom had pages upon pages written which was used to hold over my head the entirety of our relationship.

I like that we don't have anything written out. It's nice to just go with the flow and enjoy it as we go.


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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/12/2012 10:39:26 PM   
myotherself


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Status: offline 		pretty much what Littlewonder said.

And to be honest, I'm not sure that a detailed manifesto would have been useful as our relationship evolved. Two years ago I doubt very much that we'd have thought we'd be where we are now, in terms of our M/s and life situation.

In that case, a manifesto might well have held us back in our development. His rules and expectations are few - obey, be pleasing, be yourself. That's all we need.

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 2:41:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to wonder if this is a matter of terminology.

Yeah, I'm writing My Master's manual this winter. I don't see this as the same thing as a manifesto. It's part of who I am as a leather person.

As silly as it sounds, it's part of what I'm supposed to do. I promise to let you know how it turns out.


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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 2:45:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		My "manifesto" was developed right on these very boards.

Someone typed the sentence: "At the end of the day, 'Dom' is just a title that some people hang on themselves"

I wrote a reply outlining the things that I believe are required of a dominant; just a list of seven principles. It fits on a one-page MS Word document so, I guess it isn't long enough or detailed enough to count as a "manifesto" but I do use it and give it to ladies in whom I am interested. However, I call it my "Mission Statement".



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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 3:03:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

I have known many Dominant types that have a manifesto. One guy I knew took it to the point where he clearly outlined his goals, policies and procedures written out in a booklet. It was over 100 pages long because he wrote up all the procedures. When taking a partner, I'll write up several pages to put into writing what my relationship and life goals are.

When bringing a partner into your life, do you have a manifesto, a clear agenda for them? Do you write it up?


I don't have a manifesto as such, but I do have
a book that I write things in, kind of like a journal,
but D/s specific, it's good to read back on and see
where progress has been made, and has things like
my thoughts on behaviours, possible ways to
achieve certain goals and just basically to keep
track of things.

It's absolutely for my eyes only, not for the reasons
you wouldn't want someone reading your journal,
more like, if a sub ever read it, I would be worried
that seeing things through my eyes would take the
magic away.

-ARIES


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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 5:38:35 AM   
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I have a manifesto in my head, and usually the 'getting to know you' period is to see if that person measures up. It's the only real purpose to dating casually as far as I am concerned. But I find people respond much better when we have discussions and I ask lots of questions, instead of handing them a small novella and asking them if they will live up to my life plan.

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 7:21:07 AM   
ResidentSadist


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I have to wonder if this is a matter of terminology.

Yeah, I'm writing My Master's manual this winter. I don't see this as the same thing as a manifesto. It's part of who I am as a leather person.

As silly as it sounds, it's part of what I'm supposed to do. I promise to let you know how it turns out.


As far as a manifesto goes, it is a "proclamation of intent" which often includes objectives and/or opinions and perspectives.

Example: I am XYZ and my house is XYZ style. We shall strive to reach XYZ life goals and we shall do it with XYZ attitudes because we don't do ABC around here. As a member of my XYZ house you shall get XYZ and together we will take over the world . . . or at least a few counties in Florida.

I wonder if your Master's Manual is anything like the Owner's Manual I plan to write? It's more of a book about methodology, techniques (emotional & physical), philosophy and my perspectives on ownership. I have had a vivacious leather life and writing a book and sharing what I have learned would be an extension of what you said about "each one, teach one".

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 7:28:21 AM   
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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 7:29:35 AM   
ResidentSadist


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

My "manifesto" was developed right on these very boards.

Someone typed the sentence: "At the end of the day, 'Dom' is just a title that some people hang on themselves"

I wrote a reply outlining the things that I believe are required of a dominant; just a list of seven principles. It fits on a one-page MS Word document so, I guess it isn't long enough or detailed enough to count as a "manifesto" but I do use it and give it to ladies in whom I am interested. However, I call it my "Mission Statement".



Peace and comfort,



Michael

Yes, your mission statement is a manifesto. Even if intended for a limited audience of your choosing like potential partners, it is a manifesto. One page is plenty long for a manifesto. My most complicated manifesto was never more than a handful of pages at most.

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 7:32:42 AM   
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And, in response to this thread, I have a jeremiad more often than a manifesto these days. Blame the menopause.

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 8:23:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine is direct and simple:

Give me a reason!! Give me a cause!! Let's burn this motherfucker DOWN!!

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 9:11:00 AM   
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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 12:09:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		How does a manifesto differ from a contract? How many here use a written contract? Did you include a time frame or leave it open ended?

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 1:11:39 PM   
Kaiel


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

I have known many Dominant types that have a manifesto. One guy I knew took it to the point where he clearly outlined his goals, policies and procedures written out in a booklet. It was over 100 pages long because he wrote up all the procedures. When taking a partner, I'll write up several pages to put into writing what my relationship and life goals are.

When bringing a partner into your life, do you have a manifesto, a clear agenda for them? Do you write it up?


I would not consider what I have a manifesto, but I certainly have a clear stated (written) agendas-goals-expectations for every s-type in My life.


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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 2:22:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've written a contract before in the past, but that was by request. I tend to let things go as they go.

I haven't made a list of expectations for my girl, and I don't ask much of her, because I've discovered it goes against the flow of our dynamic. We work best when she is free to be herself, and in that freedom, she serves and pleases me. She knows what I like, and if unsure I can always prompt her without making it a rule.

If I were talking with this about her I would chuckle, look her in the eye and say, "Be yourself. I love who you are, all of you." Being with her is the important thing, and I don't need to make demands or lay down expectations to be happy with her. She makes me happy just the way she is.



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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 2:25:57 PM   
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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 3:13:40 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		We don't have a written contract either. It's more verbal. I agree to submit. He agrees to dominate. Either of us has the ability to leave at anytime.

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RE: -=Do you have a manifesto?=- - 8/13/2012 4:19:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I get a bit worried when someone starts talking about their manifesto, the term's picked up some bad connotations.

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